August 2019 AAIB Bulletin
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From: Den Haag
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Bet he / she was busier than the proverbial one-armed paper hangar doing this shuttle as a LTC with a newbie, also having had the intervention on the previous deck his / her mind might have been focused on the approach and lost sight of big picture.
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Bet he / she was busier than the proverbial one-armed paper hangar doing this shuttle as a LTC with a newbie, also having had the intervention on the previous deck his / her mind might have been focused on the approach and lost sight of big picture.
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I think it is ridiculous to tie up the AAIB resources on such a trivial thing. Landing somewhere isn’t an accident, and only an incident if you are the oil company lobby looking to moan about something. It is a shame the AAIB didn’t consider what the actual risk of a WDL was. There have been loads, and never has there been an actual safety issue. So it is all just a bit too hysterical.
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I think it is ridiculous to tie up the AAIB resources on such a trivial thing. Landing somewhere isn’t an accident, and only an incident if you are the oil company lobby looking to moan about something. It is a shame the AAIB didn’t consider what the actual risk of a WDL was. There have been loads, and never has there been an actual safety issue. So it is all just a bit too hysterical.
Landing on the wrong deck is a huge safety issue for a lot of reasons. That it has not yet led to a FOD event, Crane strike, Mid-air or any one of the other possible hazards is nothing more than good fortune.
"there have been loads" - Oh - that's all right then - must be fine if it happens all the time!
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Please don't confuse "never has there been an actual safety issue" with "never has there been an accident".
Landing on the wrong deck is a huge safety issue for a lot of reasons. That it has not yet led to a FOD event, Crane strike, Mid-air or any one of the other possible hazards is nothing more than good fortune.
"there have been loads" - Oh - that's all right then - must be fine if it happens all the time!
Landing on the wrong deck is a huge safety issue for a lot of reasons. That it has not yet led to a FOD event, Crane strike, Mid-air or any one of the other possible hazards is nothing more than good fortune.
"there have been loads" - Oh - that's all right then - must be fine if it happens all the time!
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I once landed in the correct place, but a month early. Not my fault, someone in the tasking cell thought that the seventh month was June, rather than July. No-one died.
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But you don’t have any supporting evidence for your scaremongering. Where is the risk analysis? If WDLs were a significant safety issue then oil companies would have taken proactive steps such as installing red and green “traffic lights” on helidecks, making their names easier to read and less cryptic. But they didn’t bother because actually, it isn’t a big deal. Human pilots will always make mistakes given enough exposure. Giving them a hard time and using the taxpayer funded and overstretched resources of the AAIB to pressure them doesn’t help to reduce the probability of a recurrence because no-one does it deliberately. WDL have always happened and will continue to happen so long as all blame and responsibility is dumped on the pilots. Fact of life, get over it.
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Nice to see you back HC.
Of course, this can easily be explained. It’s actually the oil company’s fault for using the old fashioned S-92 without the built in WDL warning.
Had the oil company selected 225 for this contract with its superior built in WDL envelope protection, this kind of thing wouldn’t happen and the pilots could be absolved of any need to identify the destination.
Of course, this can easily be explained. It’s actually the oil company’s fault for using the old fashioned S-92 without the built in WDL warning.
Had the oil company selected 225 for this contract with its superior built in WDL envelope protection, this kind of thing wouldn’t happen and the pilots could be absolved of any need to identify the destination.
