New Helo Crash Video
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As John said, in the S61 the non flying pilot had his hands on the throttles for take off and landing in order to maintain rotor rpm as power was applied and to slam it forward if one engine failed. In a tail rotor drive failure case, he would be in the right position to pull back the throttles as the flying pilot's voice increased by 6 octaves in pitch as hopefully he dumped the collective.
In the simulator at FSI, after a couple of goes, it was very easy to handle a TR drive failure on take off or landing if you yelled at the NFP to pull back immediately a sharp yaw occured. Obviously in the simulator you are expecting a failure of some sort every minute unlike real life.
SASless point of throttle positions is valid. A few years ago I was approaching in a Bell 206 with fixed floats to land on a trolley. As I came to the hover, I wanted to turn 90 degrees to the right, so as my foot started to press the pedal, the TR drive gave way. I slammed the throttle shut, rotated 90 degrees, lowered collective and made an impressively quick landing which would have been unlikely in a AS350.
In the simulator at FSI, after a couple of goes, it was very easy to handle a TR drive failure on take off or landing if you yelled at the NFP to pull back immediately a sharp yaw occured. Obviously in the simulator you are expecting a failure of some sort every minute unlike real life.
SASless point of throttle positions is valid. A few years ago I was approaching in a Bell 206 with fixed floats to land on a trolley. As I came to the hover, I wanted to turn 90 degrees to the right, so as my foot started to press the pedal, the TR drive gave way. I slammed the throttle shut, rotated 90 degrees, lowered collective and made an impressively quick landing which would have been unlikely in a AS350.
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If you watch the video very closely, you can see that the flight deck is elevated from the stern deck area (watch the helo's shadow closely to see this). When the helo went over on the left of the flight deck, it fell off of the flight deck and landed on the ship below. The flames originate from below and graze the side of the flight deck.
For all to have survived with only minor injuries speaks volumes about the way Sikorsky builds their helos.
For all to have survived with only minor injuries speaks volumes about the way Sikorsky builds their helos.
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I've never landed on a navy ship, but I've done it uncounted times on seismic boats & supertankers, in a variety of aircraft. I've also landed on many drilling rigs under tow. The last few years I've been doing it mostly at night, in BH412's & SK76's. My technique is to make a very slow approach, on the steep side of normal, which gives me time to look at all the junk sticking up in the way. I usually see most of it. I don't conciously come to a hover off the side, but I sometimes do while looking for obstructions. IME, the ship's captain never steers in any direction favorable to the helicopter. If he can get you to make a downwind approach, he will. I once made 2 tries, & told the captain he had to turn the ship. He said he couldn't, I said goodbye, & he said "Give me 3 minutes". I've had them turn while I was aboard, so that I had a tailwind when I picked it up. In short, landing on ships is difficult at best, but I'd think nothing about landing on something as big as a carrier steaming into the wind. Piece of cake.
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Sea King crash...guess
This is only a guess on whos H-3 this is.
Im gonna say HC-2 and the crash happened in the Persion Gulf.
I think this because of the calmness of the seas and the fact that HC-2 is the only SH-3 unit operating in the Gulf. Also the number 744 on the side might be a HC-2 bird. Also ,HC-2 flies to ships all the time.
This is only a guess.
The only other unit would be HC-85 , but they are in San Diego.
Im gonna say HC-2 and the crash happened in the Persion Gulf.
I think this because of the calmness of the seas and the fact that HC-2 is the only SH-3 unit operating in the Gulf. Also the number 744 on the side might be a HC-2 bird. Also ,HC-2 flies to ships all the time.
This is only a guess.
The only other unit would be HC-85 , but they are in San Diego.
