Chairman of Air Ambulance trustees steps down.
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Chairman of Air Ambulance trustees steps down.
Word in the village pub is that the charity chief exec with the Jag wanted another pay rise, so the chairman of the charity trustee's stepped down.
A local PPL has stopped into the breach to replace the previous chairman doctor.
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Published by Jim Entwistle on Thursday, May 22, 2014
"An acclaimed businessman from the North-East has been appointed as chairman of trustees at the region’s air ambulance.
Technology entrepreneur Professor Brian Jobling has joined the Great North Air Ambulance Service (GNAAS) in a move which both parties hope will secure the long-term future of the life-saving charity.
Mr Jobling started Gateshead-based software firm Eutechnyx as an 18-year-old and led it to become one of the world’s biggest independent video games developers with 181 staff in its offices in the North-East, USA, China and Hong Kong.
After taking on the role of executive chairman at Eutechnyx in 2013, the 45-year-old has more time to focus on his other interests, including a prominent role at the fledgling Lakes Distillery in Bassenthwaite, Cumbria, and his new position at GNAAS.
Mr Jobling is no stranger to the world of aviation as he holds a licence to fly both helicopters and fixed wing aircraft.
His new role is not about getting behind the controls of the GNAAS helicopters, however, but making sure the charity is raising enough money to keep the service airborne.
“I’m here to support the chief executive and to ensure we are raising enough money to keep the aircraft flying,” he said.
“This isn’t about coming in and making sweeping changes, it’s about continuing the great work and promoting the charity, what it does and stands for in the region.
“It still isn’t widely known that the Great North Air Ambulance Service is 100 per cent charitably funded. Our main focus is to ensure we are raising the £4m we need every year to keep the aircraft flying.”
Grahame Pickering MBE, chief executive of GNAAS, said: “We are lucky to have Brian on board and we are thoroughly excited about the future with him as Chairman of the Trustees. Since 2001, this charity has grown rapidly to become a leader in the field of pre-hospital care.
“Brian’s business acumen and technical expertise will allow us to take the service to the next level, hopefully securing the future of the charity for generations to come.”
Mr Jobling takes over the post from Dr George Murphy, who stepped aside after three years at the helm."
A local PPL has stopped into the breach to replace the previous chairman doctor.
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Published by Jim Entwistle on Thursday, May 22, 2014
"An acclaimed businessman from the North-East has been appointed as chairman of trustees at the region’s air ambulance.
Technology entrepreneur Professor Brian Jobling has joined the Great North Air Ambulance Service (GNAAS) in a move which both parties hope will secure the long-term future of the life-saving charity.
Mr Jobling started Gateshead-based software firm Eutechnyx as an 18-year-old and led it to become one of the world’s biggest independent video games developers with 181 staff in its offices in the North-East, USA, China and Hong Kong.
After taking on the role of executive chairman at Eutechnyx in 2013, the 45-year-old has more time to focus on his other interests, including a prominent role at the fledgling Lakes Distillery in Bassenthwaite, Cumbria, and his new position at GNAAS.
Mr Jobling is no stranger to the world of aviation as he holds a licence to fly both helicopters and fixed wing aircraft.
His new role is not about getting behind the controls of the GNAAS helicopters, however, but making sure the charity is raising enough money to keep the service airborne.
“I’m here to support the chief executive and to ensure we are raising enough money to keep the aircraft flying,” he said.
“This isn’t about coming in and making sweeping changes, it’s about continuing the great work and promoting the charity, what it does and stands for in the region.
“It still isn’t widely known that the Great North Air Ambulance Service is 100 per cent charitably funded. Our main focus is to ensure we are raising the £4m we need every year to keep the aircraft flying.”
Grahame Pickering MBE, chief executive of GNAAS, said: “We are lucky to have Brian on board and we are thoroughly excited about the future with him as Chairman of the Trustees. Since 2001, this charity has grown rapidly to become a leader in the field of pre-hospital care.
“Brian’s business acumen and technical expertise will allow us to take the service to the next level, hopefully securing the future of the charity for generations to come.”
Mr Jobling takes over the post from Dr George Murphy, who stepped aside after three years at the helm."
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I have sadly felt the need to waste my valuable time to register with this forum in order to reply to this and previous slanderous threads regarding the CEO of the Great North Air Ambulance. I have read threads on this forum in the past and some have been of interest to those involved in rotary ops...but the attempts to publically humiliate an individual are just completely pathetic and utterly irrelevant.
How can anyone start a thread with 'word in the village pub' and then proceed to pass comment about someone's personal business and finances? I'm sure if you spoke to any of the hundreds of people who's lives have been saved by this air ambulance they wouldn't care about how much anyone earns - just that there is a charity in the North of England that can deliver some of the most advanced pre hospital care in the world and continue to save lives.
No person on this forum has enough information to make such comments about someone's salary or their car, or their integrity and this is proven by the originator who just gossips in the pub. Can I suggest you get a karaoke machine, or maybe run a quiz - it'd be a lot more fun than sitting around geting annoyed about someone who must have upset you in the past.
As for the press article that you have dug up? For every one you can find to try and degrade GNAAS there will be a hundred more that show the life saving work that it does so please just stop this sillyness now. It's embarrassing.
How can anyone start a thread with 'word in the village pub' and then proceed to pass comment about someone's personal business and finances? I'm sure if you spoke to any of the hundreds of people who's lives have been saved by this air ambulance they wouldn't care about how much anyone earns - just that there is a charity in the North of England that can deliver some of the most advanced pre hospital care in the world and continue to save lives.
No person on this forum has enough information to make such comments about someone's salary or their car, or their integrity and this is proven by the originator who just gossips in the pub. Can I suggest you get a karaoke machine, or maybe run a quiz - it'd be a lot more fun than sitting around geting annoyed about someone who must have upset you in the past.
As for the press article that you have dug up? For every one you can find to try and degrade GNAAS there will be a hundred more that show the life saving work that it does so please just stop this sillyness now. It's embarrassing.
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I have sadly felt the need to waste my valuable time to register with this forum in order to reply to this
No person on this forum has enough information to make such comments about someone's salary or their car
Please enlighten us.
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You have poked your head over the parapet, thank you, that is brave. However your statement opens you up to some serious flak. You see, you have said in a roundabout way that it doesn't matter how much a person takes out of a charity, it's ok because they have saved some lives. Well I'm afraid that isn't ok sir.
I have every respect for the fabulous job your crews do every day, I have worked closely with them on a number of occasions. Brilliant.
That said, I actually have no idea about the accusations made here, however if true, I am sure they are legal, no slander there :-)
Are they moral? Mmmmmmm, if you have the information FACTS, why not let us know? Percentages of total money raised net and gross after external agencies are involved and percentage that goes on salaries compared to other AA charities would help.....
Remember, you came on here to argue..... So argue....
I have every respect for the fabulous job your crews do every day, I have worked closely with them on a number of occasions. Brilliant.
That said, I actually have no idea about the accusations made here, however if true, I am sure they are legal, no slander there :-)
Are they moral? Mmmmmmm, if you have the information FACTS, why not let us know? Percentages of total money raised net and gross after external agencies are involved and percentage that goes on salaries compared to other AA charities would help.....
Remember, you came on here to argue..... So argue....
"No person on this forum has enough information to make such comments about someone's salary"
Shurely shome mishtake.... page 22 ??
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Shurely shome mishtake.... page 22 ??
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk...130331_E_C.pdf
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Maybe if this back biting and sniping can be put to bed then it won't be a waste of my valuable time.
I may be on the forum but that doesn't mean I know the answers to any of your questions. I don't, but I certainly wouldn't speculate about someone in public. The only person that has any right to discuss those questions is the CEO. Why are you all so bothered? How much do you earn? How would you feel if you personal business was being thrown around on the internet, with your character and integrity abused and insulted. Do you begrudge the salary of the CEO of cancer research, or the NSPCC, or any other charity for that matter? Does it matter what anybody earns as long as a service is delivered in the best possible way? And more to the point, is it any business of ours? As far as I understand from previous posts the accounts are made public anyway!
I have no idea how that particular charity works internally, but I can say from experience that they provide an invaluable medical response to the people of the North and surely that is the main thing?
Like I said previously - I'm sure if you had ever had cause to need this service you wouldn't really be bothered about salaries of the people who deliver it.
I may be on the forum but that doesn't mean I know the answers to any of your questions. I don't, but I certainly wouldn't speculate about someone in public. The only person that has any right to discuss those questions is the CEO. Why are you all so bothered? How much do you earn? How would you feel if you personal business was being thrown around on the internet, with your character and integrity abused and insulted. Do you begrudge the salary of the CEO of cancer research, or the NSPCC, or any other charity for that matter? Does it matter what anybody earns as long as a service is delivered in the best possible way? And more to the point, is it any business of ours? As far as I understand from previous posts the accounts are made public anyway!
I have no idea how that particular charity works internally, but I can say from experience that they provide an invaluable medical response to the people of the North and surely that is the main thing?
Like I said previously - I'm sure if you had ever had cause to need this service you wouldn't really be bothered about salaries of the people who deliver it.
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jayteeto - I'm not here to argue, I'm just sick of reading nasty posts. And I'm more than used to serious flak. They aren't my crews but I'm sure they would appreciate the support you have pledged, and your recognition of their work. At no time did I say that someone has the right to take whatever salary they want from a charity account, but what I asked was why are you all so bothered. Does it matter what the CEO of Cancer Research takes? You have alluded to the brilliant work of the crews and the service they provide - surely that is the main point? I notice your occupation - you wouldn't want your salary discussed in a open forum, would you? And I shall stick my head further above the parapet and ask how much pilots take out of a charity? No, because it's none of my business. As you say - you cannot comment on the accusations. Quite simply they just shouldn't be made.
Pittsextra - you have provided a link re the salary. Cheers. So that's it - black and white.
Bronx - please see the link from Pittsextra to answer your questions.
The rest of it is just all slander. Word down the pub? Seriously? My mate Dave told me that Jeremy Clarkson had just been named as the head of race relations at the BBC.
No one has any idea why people step down - to post such unsubstantiated rubbish in public just stinks of a personal vendetta and there is no place for that anywhere, anytime. This forum is for professionals - is bitching on about people really professional?
Pittsextra - you have provided a link re the salary. Cheers. So that's it - black and white.
Bronx - please see the link from Pittsextra to answer your questions.
The rest of it is just all slander. Word down the pub? Seriously? My mate Dave told me that Jeremy Clarkson had just been named as the head of race relations at the BBC.
No one has any idea why people step down - to post such unsubstantiated rubbish in public just stinks of a personal vendetta and there is no place for that anywhere, anytime. This forum is for professionals - is bitching on about people really professional?
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Here is a thought, maybe the ex chairman stood down because he had completed his 3 years in the post? maybe he is still an active member of the trustee board? maybe chairman is a voluntary position? maybe you need to get your facts right instead of spouting utter crap!
Dr.Zoid.... actually my post was just in response to your view that the levels of income from some members of staff / directors wouldn't be known. When in fact they is reasonable public data available.
My views on Air ambulances were posted elsewhere but it seems that some are structured in such a way that some provide better value than others if you use income v expenditure to generate that income as a metric. It also seems as a group of charities that there is little oversight and governance around what is / are best practice on the commercial side. i.e. why is it that some charities are able to operate with little expenditure and others have a vast network of expense often with third party companies with common directors.
I'd suggest that's not cool and perhaps not serving those that donate money in the best way.
Is that fair enough?
My views on Air ambulances were posted elsewhere but it seems that some are structured in such a way that some provide better value than others if you use income v expenditure to generate that income as a metric. It also seems as a group of charities that there is little oversight and governance around what is / are best practice on the commercial side. i.e. why is it that some charities are able to operate with little expenditure and others have a vast network of expense often with third party companies with common directors.
I'd suggest that's not cool and perhaps not serving those that donate money in the best way.
Is that fair enough?
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I really don't know all the details in this case, but once again you lay yourself open. If the CEO of cancer research UK was taking an excessive salary, I DO think this is important public news. The public give money to a charity to achieve an aim, not for that money to be misused. If charity A and B are receiving the same public donations and one has 48% admin costs against 15%, the public have EVERY right to know. Guess why??????????
Because Dr Zoid ...it's a charity
If it were a commercial business providing a service or manufacturing something it's providing a thing for a price.
Charities run on free donations, good will. I.e people give money for free. It's a sense of doing the right thing for the community.
When I read about charity money being spent on luxuries or salaries that would make a private company blush, I start to get a little upset.
If it were a commercial business providing a service or manufacturing something it's providing a thing for a price.
Charities run on free donations, good will. I.e people give money for free. It's a sense of doing the right thing for the community.
When I read about charity money being spent on luxuries or salaries that would make a private company blush, I start to get a little upset.
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Do you begrudge the salary of the CEO of cancer research, or the NSPCC, or any other charity for that matter? Does it matter what anybody earns as long as a service is delivered in the best possible way? And more to the point, is it any business of ours?
30 charity bosses paid more than £100,000 - Telegraph
Salary survey: charity chief executives' pay sorted alphabetically | Society | SocietyGuardian.co.uk
It isn't just this forum concerned about charity CEO salaries; it isn't just the salaries of CEOs of air ambulance charities which are a public concern.
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Jayteeto is on the money as far as I'm concerned. GNAA is clearly not the only air ambulance in the UK with serious questions to answer and from what I can see of one 'charity' I'm personally familiar with the problem is getting worse. More execs, more 6 digit salaries, more people on the boards. More questions.
But oh no, they save lives so it's ok. I'm sorry but the execs that run these charities have less part in saving lives than anybody else in said charities yet take home the fattest salaries. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
But oh no, they save lives so it's ok. I'm sorry but the execs that run these charities have less part in saving lives than anybody else in said charities yet take home the fattest salaries. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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OK so it seems my head is well above the parapet and firmly in the sights of Harry whatever. The salary of the CEO is available for all to see - what he spends his money on - i.e the much maligned 'Jag' is his business.
jayteeto - I appreciate your concern about me being open to flak or wide open etc (guessing you ex military) and I appreciate your honesty in stating you do not know the facts. Neither do I. But to get into the details of how different charities operate is very difficult on a forum and it is just not as simple as comparing public donations to admin costs. But like I said before - you are paid by charitable donations so would you care to disclose your salary so we can all discuss whether you are worth that amount of money or not? But I agree with what you say in that the public have a right to know how charities spend their money but the problem is that such information is sometimes not fully understood and big paychecks look offensive. Sadly charities have to be run like businesses in these times and I think we all have to accept that.
Pittsextra - your post makes complete sense and you must have misunderstood what I said originally about salaries in the public domain. Charities should be accountable but you cannot compare UK air ambulances, as all operate very differently, and there no way of quantifying 'value for money' because of this. Should people get rich from running a charity? Potentially yes - if someone has grown a charity from nothing that today serves 3 million people and saves lives on a daily basis then I suppose I believe they do deserve to be rewarded?
Harry whatever - you just discredit yourself and your opinion by your constant childish, belittling comments. 'Dr. whatever' 'the games man' 'chief pen pusher' etc - what is your actual problem? What is this really about? Are you really a concerned philanthropist? I take a leaf out of your book and make an assumption - probably not.
The Thing - air ambulances provide a service that comes at a price and people support them because they understand that such a service comes at a price. Community spirit will never run a helicopter with doctors and paramedics I'm afraid.
Hedski - Maybe this charitable world can be exploited by some and that is completely wrong, but from what I understand of GNAAS the CEO grew the charity from nothing and probably does deserve some credit.
jayteeto - I appreciate your concern about me being open to flak or wide open etc (guessing you ex military) and I appreciate your honesty in stating you do not know the facts. Neither do I. But to get into the details of how different charities operate is very difficult on a forum and it is just not as simple as comparing public donations to admin costs. But like I said before - you are paid by charitable donations so would you care to disclose your salary so we can all discuss whether you are worth that amount of money or not? But I agree with what you say in that the public have a right to know how charities spend their money but the problem is that such information is sometimes not fully understood and big paychecks look offensive. Sadly charities have to be run like businesses in these times and I think we all have to accept that.
Pittsextra - your post makes complete sense and you must have misunderstood what I said originally about salaries in the public domain. Charities should be accountable but you cannot compare UK air ambulances, as all operate very differently, and there no way of quantifying 'value for money' because of this. Should people get rich from running a charity? Potentially yes - if someone has grown a charity from nothing that today serves 3 million people and saves lives on a daily basis then I suppose I believe they do deserve to be rewarded?
Harry whatever - you just discredit yourself and your opinion by your constant childish, belittling comments. 'Dr. whatever' 'the games man' 'chief pen pusher' etc - what is your actual problem? What is this really about? Are you really a concerned philanthropist? I take a leaf out of your book and make an assumption - probably not.
The Thing - air ambulances provide a service that comes at a price and people support them because they understand that such a service comes at a price. Community spirit will never run a helicopter with doctors and paramedics I'm afraid.
Hedski - Maybe this charitable world can be exploited by some and that is completely wrong, but from what I understand of GNAAS the CEO grew the charity from nothing and probably does deserve some credit.
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£58,500.
Not a problem for me. That's a lot less than an offshore captain and a bit less than an offshore co-pilot. An average month is 180 hours on duty (45 a week). All base administration is carried out by the 2 base pilots, we wash and clean the aircraft, refuel it and also carry out handyman type jobs. We do the posting of mail and get fuel etc in our own time. Decent benefits package, by no means industry leading.
I'm not complaining about my wage at all, but do you consider it to be excessive compared to the people we talk about?
I have no issues with high wages if they are the norm in the sector. My beef is with percentages spent on non-frontline tasks. Does a company car need to be a super luxury model? Does a money sapping company NEED to do your fundraising? If they do, what EXACTLY do you do then.......... I thought that is what the charity was there to do??????
Merely providing a good service is not enough. It must be good value for money if you are a charity. If you are a private company providing a service, then game on, charge what you want, the market will judge you in time.
Not a problem for me. That's a lot less than an offshore captain and a bit less than an offshore co-pilot. An average month is 180 hours on duty (45 a week). All base administration is carried out by the 2 base pilots, we wash and clean the aircraft, refuel it and also carry out handyman type jobs. We do the posting of mail and get fuel etc in our own time. Decent benefits package, by no means industry leading.
I'm not complaining about my wage at all, but do you consider it to be excessive compared to the people we talk about?
I have no issues with high wages if they are the norm in the sector. My beef is with percentages spent on non-frontline tasks. Does a company car need to be a super luxury model? Does a money sapping company NEED to do your fundraising? If they do, what EXACTLY do you do then.......... I thought that is what the charity was there to do??????
Merely providing a good service is not enough. It must be good value for money if you are a charity. If you are a private company providing a service, then game on, charge what you want, the market will judge you in time.
Dr Zoid, at no point in my post did I suggest those actually providing the service should work for free.
Indeed essential employes (pilots and medical staff)should be paid a competitive salary in line with their industry.
Is the Chief exec's salary competitive, compare it to the pay packet of another chief exec in a small manufacturing company similar in size to the air ambulance operation.
Indeed essential employes (pilots and medical staff)should be paid a competitive salary in line with their industry.
Is the Chief exec's salary competitive, compare it to the pay packet of another chief exec in a small manufacturing company similar in size to the air ambulance operation.
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Does it matter what the CEO of Cancer Research takes?
The CEO of a cancer organisation I once worked for was only paid a fraction of what he was really worth, and had impressive qualifications and had practiced in several countries.
The Director of Research of the same organisation, well, I let the ghoul know that he should sell his multi-million dollar inner suburban home and give back the money, then go get a real job for once in his life.
Judging from the comments made in this thread I am not the only one who thinks that charity owes nobody an exorbitant living.
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Morning all.
jayteeto - I do not consider your wage to be excessive at all - but that is why you feel so validated for disclosing it - because you can compare it to the off-shore guys and in effect say how low it is on a forum that is discussing high wage packets. Would you knock back a rise to put you in line with off-shore on the basis of charitable morals?
You are absolutley right that charities must provide value for money but making sweeping judgements without knowing all the facts is damaging both to individuals and the charities themsleves - I believe fundrasing in GNAAS is not outsourced but a that a company does exist with the sole purpose of donating profits to keep the service running. If the public choose to support a charity does that not mean, by definition, that they deem it to provide value for money? Do they want to know what the CEO drives, or just care that there is a helicopter in their region that will be there for them and potentially save their life?
I'm just not sure how you can define 'value for money' in the charity sector as this will ultimately be a pretty subjective view? Percentage of expenditure on non-frontline tasks may be relatively higher than some AA but perhaps this is down to investment and future proofing? I guess we don't know.
The Thing - I'm just not sure how you can make a comparision between a small manufacturing company and an air ambulance charity? Even direct comparisions between AA charities is impossible - there are just too many variables.
jayteeto - I do not consider your wage to be excessive at all - but that is why you feel so validated for disclosing it - because you can compare it to the off-shore guys and in effect say how low it is on a forum that is discussing high wage packets. Would you knock back a rise to put you in line with off-shore on the basis of charitable morals?
You are absolutley right that charities must provide value for money but making sweeping judgements without knowing all the facts is damaging both to individuals and the charities themsleves - I believe fundrasing in GNAAS is not outsourced but a that a company does exist with the sole purpose of donating profits to keep the service running. If the public choose to support a charity does that not mean, by definition, that they deem it to provide value for money? Do they want to know what the CEO drives, or just care that there is a helicopter in their region that will be there for them and potentially save their life?
I'm just not sure how you can define 'value for money' in the charity sector as this will ultimately be a pretty subjective view? Percentage of expenditure on non-frontline tasks may be relatively higher than some AA but perhaps this is down to investment and future proofing? I guess we don't know.
The Thing - I'm just not sure how you can make a comparision between a small manufacturing company and an air ambulance charity? Even direct comparisions between AA charities is impossible - there are just too many variables.
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Should people get rich from running a charity? Potentially yes - if someone has grown a charity from nothing that today serves 3 million people and saves lives on a daily basis then I suppose I believe they do deserve to be rewarded?
To exploit the altruistic generosity of "Joe Public" by emotive manipulation,
("saving lives" " Totally self-funded CHARITY") for the purposes of self-enrichment is little short of Fraud and misrepresentation.
Whatever happened to "fair reward" and Philanthropy?....I can understand the desire for a decent, living wage for a FULL-TIME employee. This is a somewhat different scenario....the post is part time , it is a Community Service and the remuneration taken , is out of all proportion to the duties performed, the level of dedication and expertise employed and the value to the CHARITY.
In a business, even the likes of "sweatshop " shoes sold for £thousands to vain , needy women, they have a choice to not be "ripped-off" and no-one , save the fat-cat business-owner suffers.
One doesn't hear about the "poor, starving, destitute Fillipino /Korean/ Bangladeshi (insert heartstring-tug of choice) child will be deprived of an income if you don't purchase our exploitive, manipulatively-marketed purchase"
But , life-saving is a much bigger, better sell. to exploit it for personal GREED is beyond the pale.
You defend the indefensible.....Oh, and the Service in question, was well-established , long before someone chose to use it as a personal money-spinner.