UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 3
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PAN,
What makes you think that the pilots have not been consulted or that there isn't a pilot on the project team?
One of the main aims of the project is to reduce airframe weight to enable more fuel to be carried. Remember, with 10 less aircraft, those that are left are going to need to fly further and for longer.
What makes you think that the pilots have not been consulted or that there isn't a pilot on the project team?
One of the main aims of the project is to reduce airframe weight to enable more fuel to be carried. Remember, with 10 less aircraft, those that are left are going to need to fly further and for longer.
Silsoe,
We are talking about flying helicopters here under a PAOC. And one of your roles as a pilot is to ensure the safe outcome of the flight for those ONBOARD.
We're not talking about saving the universe or discovering the South Pole. We are not talking about great feats of human endurance. We are not talking about being in a war zone.
As a professional pilot, regardless of the job you are doing, you have a duty of care towards your passengers who may well themselves be over envolved in the task THEY are trying to complete - YOU are ultimately there to provide the platform and there are times when you must say NO.
Your Unit's FSO must surely understand this?!?
Unfortunately people have pushed the boundaries far too often and this has resulted in their deaths, the deaths of their passengers and even more rules and regulations for the rest of us.
An Oop Norf ASU regularly has visitors who fly so you could say its a common occurrence there (disclaimer - all pax meet guidelines as laid down in CAP612).
And as for Soaps, dramas, movies - usually the directors have an idea of what they want to see from the mock police aircraft! Can I direct you to a great Bollywood film called Tez (3.7/10 on ImDB). Their portrayal of a UK Police helicopter had a TFO with a GPMG hanging out the side firing bullets all over the shop! Oh I know why - for DRAMA!
Maybe you're in the wrong job, maybe you should work in TV/Film instead!
Tonight on Emmerdale, pilot Sid is running low on fuel whilst chasing Sandy on his electric scooter. Should he land with minimum fuel allowed? Should he land below minimum fuel? Should he return to base to refuel? What does his Ops Manual say? Is it acceptable to bust the limits? Are the limits there for a reason? Oh no, the low fuel light is ON. How much time has he left? (Cue adverts).
We are talking about flying helicopters here under a PAOC. And one of your roles as a pilot is to ensure the safe outcome of the flight for those ONBOARD.
We're not talking about saving the universe or discovering the South Pole. We are not talking about great feats of human endurance. We are not talking about being in a war zone.
As a professional pilot, regardless of the job you are doing, you have a duty of care towards your passengers who may well themselves be over envolved in the task THEY are trying to complete - YOU are ultimately there to provide the platform and there are times when you must say NO.
Your Unit's FSO must surely understand this?!?
Unfortunately people have pushed the boundaries far too often and this has resulted in their deaths, the deaths of their passengers and even more rules and regulations for the rest of us.
An Oop Norf ASU regularly has visitors who fly so you could say its a common occurrence there (disclaimer - all pax meet guidelines as laid down in CAP612).
And as for Soaps, dramas, movies - usually the directors have an idea of what they want to see from the mock police aircraft! Can I direct you to a great Bollywood film called Tez (3.7/10 on ImDB). Their portrayal of a UK Police helicopter had a TFO with a GPMG hanging out the side firing bullets all over the shop! Oh I know why - for DRAMA!
Maybe you're in the wrong job, maybe you should work in TV/Film instead!
Tonight on Emmerdale, pilot Sid is running low on fuel whilst chasing Sandy on his electric scooter. Should he land with minimum fuel allowed? Should he land below minimum fuel? Should he return to base to refuel? What does his Ops Manual say? Is it acceptable to bust the limits? Are the limits there for a reason? Oh no, the low fuel light is ON. How much time has he left? (Cue adverts).
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There is an old saying SS..'If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen'.
As I said earlier you make a drama out of nothing in all your posts.
You obviously are not happy with the job and it's term and conditions but seem to know all the answers. Have you thought of a job in management
As I said earlier you make a drama out of nothing in all your posts.
You obviously are not happy with the job and it's term and conditions but seem to know all the answers. Have you thought of a job in management
Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
Just a quick retrack for Mr.B eat al;
What do you think happens when the 145 goes away for servicing or 'tech'?
... and finally on the PCSO side of things, don't you think it funny that you have more 'entitlement' to a 'jolly' than a PCSO?
"d) holder of a current pilot's licence who intends to act as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft flying under and in accordance with the terms of a PAOC and who is being carried for the purpose of training and familiarisation;"
Firstly we are referring to the D&C EC145 NOT your EC135!
... and finally on the PCSO side of things, don't you think it funny that you have more 'entitlement' to a 'jolly' than a PCSO?
"d) holder of a current pilot's licence who intends to act as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft flying under and in accordance with the terms of a PAOC and who is being carried for the purpose of training and familiarisation;"
Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
We are talking about flying helicopters here under a PAOC. And one of your roles as a pilot is to ensure the safe outcome of the flight for those ONBOARD.
Don't forget the additional responsibility for the safety of persons outside the aircraft !
As a professional pilot, regardless of the job you are doing, you have a duty of care towards your passengers who may well themselves be over envolved in the task THEY are trying to complete - YOU are ultimately there to provide the platform and there are times when you must say NO.
Don't forget the duty of care to any other persons that may be affected by the aircraft !
There are often times when I say no!
Your Unit's FSO must surely understand this?!?
An Oop Norf ASU regularly has visitors who fly so you could say its a common occurrence there (disclaimer - all pax meet guidelines as laid down in CAP612).
Maybe you're in the wrong job, maybe you should work in TV/Film instead!
However if I ever do go into TV/Film, I will be getting in touch to ask for your advice based on your experience
Every day is a learning day, so thank you for your advice on Captaincy
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