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Old 1st Apr 2011, 09:55
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Henra .....honestly what are you trying to do You come onto this thread without an invitation from those of us with proper professional licences ( i,m talking people with lots of stripes and white gloves ), and quite frankly you have ruined it
You put forward a logical list of faults ranked by their severity ...you quite accurately assess the risk for each ......you dont have a dig at ppl,s ( morons ) and you dont abuse our Chief ( Top Cat ).
Your no fun ...spoilsport.

Epitaph ....turn and slip .....i dont think i,ve got one ( only just taken delivery of new heli ) but will have a look next time i get in ....!! and i,m not that clever ...just in comparison to you
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 13:29
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without an invitation from those of us with proper professional licence
Sorry, cant resist:

PROFESSIONAL = flies with knowledge, skill, judgment and awareness

Doesnt matter what it says on a piece of paper. Some pilots get paid to do this; many others do this without pay, and many get paid who dont/cant do this.
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 19:35
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Yes nigelh, and some people are complete tossers regardless of what licence they hold.

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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 00:12
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I can't believe the amount of poor airmanship demonstrated in this video.

The equation is simple. Fly an R22 & 44 (or any other aircraft for that matter) in accordance with the Flight Manual, basic and type training instruction and you will remain perfectly safe. Step outside of this and your life expectancy (certainly career) will be considerably reduced. Show the machine a healthy respect, otherwise it will bite!, hard!!.

This type of behaviour will catch up with this guy eventually, in some form or another. Lets hope it's in a form other than the premature curtailment of his life.
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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 07:40
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I have to say I completely agree with your post.
Nice try choppy you never thought we would fall for that one on april fools day
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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 13:29
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Epitaph ....i think you have proved your point admirably
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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 14:21
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Then you must be very perceptive. Congratulations.
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 21:54
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Apologies if this is posted already....

But here's another one to throw into the pot!!! Enjoy...

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Old 4th Apr 2011, 00:58
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Not so bad, was it?
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 08:11
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Originally Posted by 2papabravo
But here's another one to throw into the pot!!! Enjoy...
Completely different kettle of fish, 2PB.

Obviously very low in places, but not necessarily dangerous. Was probably(/maybe!) a very well recced route (ie no wires), very remote, always had a potential reject, outside of the h/v curve etc etc.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 11:05
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If folks don't see the diffrence in those two videos, it is no surprise that some threads on this forum becomes amusing reading...

Judging from the scenery, I would ''guess'' it's not the UK... so, no point of contacting the CAA then... bummer!
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 12:53
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Oh totally agree that its not in the same band as our Brazilian counterpart.

But you have to admit, still a few questionable points to raise.

Just because you're out of the hv band, doesn't make you invincible. I don't know the aircraft type but if its a single and your engine farts at that height, you need good skills to put the aircraft down safely, especially on that type of surface (potentially frozen river).

Increased risk of bird strikes.

Misjudgement of pilot when flaring to clear trees - you clip the disc and you could be in a world of poop.

All of this in a place where if you have an accident, rescue probably won't be fast.

Maybe I'm a kill joy, but if I want to fly like that, my pax would be informed of the risks and I certainly wouldn't have it posted on the web.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:22
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Where lies the real risk?

I get more and more the impression, that we are not that good a judging risks. All of our flight instructors hammered the same old stories in our brains. Be aware of the engine failure! Only, the risk of having an engine failure is rather low. Especially in an R44 or in the big ships. Hitting something is the main reason for accidents today. Pilots all over the world are half of their flying time inside the dead mans curve and they do not fall from the skies like flies. Far from it. I can not remember an engine failure in Switzerland, but we had quite a few accidents for other reasons. Hitting things and bad full down autos rank pretty high. (No, there is one exception, HB-XKE had a double engine failure, but the pilot accidentely turned them off).
Therefore, if there are always the same voices that tell you:"Oh my good, if you have an engine failure in that situation, you are in deep trouble!" give them a smile and point them to the statistics. If you fly low, FIRST think about hitting something. And that's a risk you can manage. It is inherently more dangerous than flying high, but it's up to you, how much risk you take.
On the other hand, our brasilian friend should loose his ticket as soon as possible for his own safety.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 19:41
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Nubian,
I would ''guess'' it's not the UK... so, no point of contacting the CAA then... bummer
If it was in the UK, why would you want to contact the CAA ?
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 20:32
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Chopchop,

You clearly didn't get the point...
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 21:35
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Provided he doesn't break rule 5 (Uk) he's fine. I suspect his worse enemy is a bird strike or someone doing the same thing coming the other way
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 04:28
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No worries - the birds all flew south for the winter!
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 08:42
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more chance of running into a polar beer, looking at that vid.
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 09:46
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Provided he doesn't break rule 5 (Uk) he's fine. I suspect his worse enemy is a bird strike or someone doing the same thing coming the other way
Must admit that my first thought was wires
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 17:28
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Overall, I suspect he's done that run many times before and knows it well. Still borderline though. ESPECIALLY with pax. Thats perhaps the naughty bit
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