Is this an accident waiting to happen?
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looking at the AH in the picture posted I would say that was more like 45 degrees not 80 as the first 3 bars are at ten are degree markings then the next one which is where it looks to be just over is 45 . as someone who has taken both R22's and 44's to about 110 degrees if done right thats not a problem. on the whole the flight was a bit on the risky side for the low rpm maps limits etc also doing those kind of maneuvers over the sea can lead to disorientation but as the weather looks stunning I doubt that would be a problem. My real issue with this is the people on bored don't know any better and as a pilot you have a duty of care for your passengers no matter weather it's private or public , if they knew the pilot and the risks then let them crack on its their lives not yours but I doubt they did hence not on really..
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As a CPL CFI i guess i,m still allowed in then 
I agree ...i think all those dangerous ignorant ppl,s should have their own ppl site and should only be allowed to read what us pro,s have to say . Maybe they could comment during one hour each week and we can all have a giggle at how stupid and dangerous they are And i vote TC to be the Chief !!
but dont forget who paid for all your training etc you Mil pilots ..........the unwashed ppl,s may want pay back !!!
I agree ...i think all those dangerous ignorant ppl,s should have their own ppl site and should only be allowed to read what us pro,s have to say . Maybe they could comment during one hour each week and we can all have a giggle at how stupid and dangerous they are And i vote TC to be the Chief !!but dont forget who paid for all your training etc you Mil pilots ..........the unwashed ppl,s may want pay back !!!
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From: Alles über die platz
looking at the AH in the picture posted I would say that was more like 45 degrees not 80 as the first 3 bars are at ten are degree markings then the next one which is where it looks to be just over is 45 .
Is the horizon not the apparent line that separates earth from sky on your planet Crazybroadsword? Perhaps the aircrafts windscreen centre pillar isn't vertical either
May I suggest that you get a protractor and place it on your monitor
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From: Alles über die platz
Nige,
Ignorant and dangerous doesn't just apply to PPLs, we all know that thanks.
Once again people like you turn threads into a PPL v CPL argument and if not that, a Mil v Civ argument. Most of us have no axes to grind, yet there are some that like to persistently like to vent their spleen here. We all know you have a chip on each shoulder, a PPL/CPL chip and a Mil/Civ chip, so at least you are balanced (verification needed)
The record is old and repetitive, get into iTunes please, FFS.
Back to my first line, "Ignorant and dangerous doesn't just apply to PPLs", remember those days at GSM
Ignorant and dangerous doesn't just apply to PPLs, we all know that thanks.
Once again people like you turn threads into a PPL v CPL argument and if not that, a Mil v Civ argument. Most of us have no axes to grind, yet there are some that like to persistently like to vent their spleen here. We all know you have a chip on each shoulder, a PPL/CPL chip and a Mil/Civ chip, so at least you are balanced (verification needed)
The record is old and repetitive, get into iTunes please, FFS.
Back to my first line, "Ignorant and dangerous doesn't just apply to PPLs", remember those days at GSM
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Silsoe ..i agree with your first point ...it is one i have been making so no surprise there !!
As for a chip re PPL v CPL .....as a CPL i am generally sticking up for PPL,s .......so how does the chip work ? Do i wish i had a PPL ? Well i have one AND a CPL !!! As for Mil ...well most of my best pilot friends are Mil and give as good as they get !!
You still havent pointed out how it is dangerous to dive and fly on the same day .....but to answer you ...i dont think it would be dangerous if you know how deep and long you have dived and then how high you will be flying ...and as sport diving doesnt require any decompression i think it would be totally safe to do both !! ( let me know if you find out otherwise but i do know that diving accidents are often transported by helicopter low level )
As for GSM .....( A heli crop spraying company that was based near Ripon ) I had a lot of fun helping run it and managing the "Egypt Operation ". Things were nicer in the helicopter world in those days ...less traffic , less pilots with less rules and less egos . Only good thing i suppose is that it is safer today and more professional .
As for a chip re PPL v CPL .....as a CPL i am generally sticking up for PPL,s .......so how does the chip work ? Do i wish i had a PPL ? Well i have one AND a CPL !!! As for Mil ...well most of my best pilot friends are Mil and give as good as they get !!
You still havent pointed out how it is dangerous to dive and fly on the same day .....but to answer you ...i dont think it would be dangerous if you know how deep and long you have dived and then how high you will be flying ...and as sport diving doesnt require any decompression i think it would be totally safe to do both !! ( let me know if you find out otherwise but i do know that diving accidents are often transported by helicopter low level )
As for GSM .....( A heli crop spraying company that was based near Ripon ) I had a lot of fun helping run it and managing the "Egypt Operation ". Things were nicer in the helicopter world in those days ...less traffic , less pilots with less rules and less egos . Only good thing i suppose is that it is safer today and more professional .
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SilsoeSid said;
Rarely have I had the pleasure of reading such a terrific response... I almost sprayed the laptop with Earl Grey! 
Simply brilliant!
Is the horizon not the apparent line that separates earth from sky on your planet Crazybroadsword?
Simply brilliant!
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Obviously all of you guys are from way up the top end of the world. In brazil the horizon slopes about 40 deg, so only a 45 deg bank....
Down under the horizon is 90 deg out, so we are fine whatever we do.
Don't think that it only happens in third world countries. I know of a few supposedly first world operators who give the same sort of rides. But, do you go to Brazil and expect the same level of safety in anything as at home?
Ps professional just means you get paid for it, doesn't it? Not that you have to be any good. Although being good probably helps.
Down under the horizon is 90 deg out, so we are fine whatever we do.
Don't think that it only happens in third world countries. I know of a few supposedly first world operators who give the same sort of rides. But, do you go to Brazil and expect the same level of safety in anything as at home?
Ps professional just means you get paid for it, doesn't it? Not that you have to be any good. Although being good probably helps.
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"Ps professional just means you get paid for it, doesn't it? Not that you have to be any good. Although being good probably helps."
Well "said" that man !
Being professional also means that you're very important and that lessor mortals should be seen but not heard.
Most ppl(h) pilots are good at their main source of employment hence they can afford to fly for leisure. But they are clearly idiots that should be ignored on here. (even if they have thousands of hours on a type when a professional has none)
Tarman PPL(H)
Well "said" that man !
Being professional also means that you're very important and that lessor mortals should be seen but not heard.
Most ppl(h) pilots are good at their main source of employment hence they can afford to fly for leisure. But they are clearly idiots that should be ignored on here. (even if they have thousands of hours on a type when a professional has none)
Tarman PPL(H)
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With regards to the MAP limits.. well past red line just after horn comes on,
Surely in an ASTRO isn't it MCP plus 1.6" (not 2.8")
Argue all you like about limits, Low G, flight over people/water, the question is "Whilst on holiday in Brazil would you go for (or let your loved ones go for) a flight with this guy?"
Surely in an ASTRO isn't it MCP plus 1.6" (not 2.8")
Argue all you like about limits, Low G, flight over people/water, the question is "Whilst on holiday in Brazil would you go for (or let your loved ones go for) a flight with this guy?"
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they (PPL's) are clearly idiots that should be ignored on here.
Professional does not only refer to being paid to do a job it is also an attitude - grow up.
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From: Alles über die platz
Crazybroadsword;
Now I'm no R44 pilot like yourself, and therefore cannot talk with any authority on type, but I don't think you are looking at the AH. Could it be that you are referring to the turn and slip indicator?.....
...which is pretty scary should you ever have to rely on your instruments
looking at the AH in the picture posted I would say that was more like 45 degrees not 80 as the first 3 bars are at ten are degree markings then the next one which is where it looks to be just over is 45 .
...which is pretty scary should you ever have to rely on your instruments
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Tarman
I try and filter out most of the ego driven nonsense on this forum, but your last contribution was, without doubt, the most obscure and worrying statement I've read in a very long time! "All PPL(H)s are idiots"?! And then you label yourself as a PPL(H)? It'd be funny if it wasn't serious.
Priceless!!
TTB
I try and filter out most of the ego driven nonsense on this forum, but your last contribution was, without doubt, the most obscure and worrying statement I've read in a very long time! "All PPL(H)s are idiots"?! And then you label yourself as a PPL(H)? It'd be funny if it wasn't serious.
Priceless!!
TTB
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It'd be funny if it wasn't serious.
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