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Old 10th Mar 2011, 16:00
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No Part M Holder, no Chief Engineer, No AOC, soon no Chief Pilot.


Ouch, these posts won't be quick or easy to replace.
I understand that similar postholders are leaving from other companies in the group. Surely they won't have enough "approved" people to cover everything

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Old 10th Mar 2011, 16:02
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Your post might just be funny if people were not losing their jobs and and decent folk working for a company started by a very nice person 20 years ago was not about to crash.

Bar humour is fine but has no place here

I notice you do not have the same attitude on the police helicopter cuts thread
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Congratulations, Coconutty and wicked witch for bringing a bit of levity to these sorry proceedings!

Yes it is a shame.

But, to paraphrase Good-old Braveheart;

"They can take our jobs, but they can never take our sense-of-humour"

Lighten-up Phil.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 17:04
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Devil Get a life!

Come on Phil space lighten up.

Well said Clado (can't spell the rest of it!)

One thing I have learnt in my years in aviation is that you need a sense of humour.

Maybe if the execs at Longmint had a life and a sense of humour (like "normal" people) things wouldn't be such a mess.

I can sympathize with Gerry Hermer but I think when he left he knew what was on the cards - that's why the Air Ambulance was so well prepared.

So I personally loved the real puppy dog and hopefully he will return to tv shortly.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 12:50
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Helihub website is showing that Alan Mann has taken ownership of the Sterling aircraft and some Fast and TAMS? aircraft. Is this the sign of a new company strategy or just more smoke and mirrors. They now have a lot of aircraft they can't make money from. Debt consolidations?
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Bar humour is fine but has no place here
Really sorry about that Phil, I had no idea you had been promoted to Moderator,
and were now setting the rules and telling members what they could and could not post.
I consider myself severely wagged at by your self appointed little finger

If YOU had a sense of humour, then apart from laughing at the majority of your own posts,
you might see the ironic form of humour within the Andrex puppy analogy.

But until you actually have anything constructive to say ( on any of the PPrune topics ),
then I won't be wasting any more of my time rising to your petty comments.


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Old 11th Mar 2011, 17:23
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understand that EAAAS own at least one of the engines in the Sterling machines and leased it back to them - i hope they have a watertight lease agreement and a good lawyer other with they're unlikely to ever see that half million again.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 17:52
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Alan Mann has taken ownership of the Sterling aircraft and some Fast and TAMS? aircra

Alan Mann has taken ownership of the Sterling aircraft and some Fast and TAMS? aircraft

Aren't the above part of the Longmint Group?
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 18:49
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Devil LONGMINT are to aviation what "strangles" is to horses!

My understanding is that EAAAS had to purchase the engine initially but they did eventually, with a little persuasion, recoup the cost from Sterling. This is from one of those "chinese whispers" but I cannot imagine Gerry Hermer being involved in anything illegal, especially if it is to benefit Longmint, and as EAAAS is a charity they are bound by lots of rules and regulations. Would you put your neck on the line for LONGMINT

Fast, Sterling, TAMS, Skydrift and Alan Mann are all part of LONGMINT along with Fairoaks and Shoreham. This is not a definitive list as they have their poison ivy spreading over lots of companies unfortunatley. If they are "selling" assets from one company to another within the group I sincerely hope that it hasn't all been done legally. I would be very happy to report them and it wouldn't be secretly.

I don't know any of the directors of Longmint but it seems from my understanding of the situation they must have got their degrees from the same university as the Gadaffi family. Or maybe they just went to the same shop for their genes!

Oh if only I was a real witch what fun I would have.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 21:20
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how can you say that AM has taken ownership of the Sterling aircraft when they are all mortgage to the hilt and more
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With the old Chief Engineer now gone the advert for his replacement has been posted while the operation gets ever slimmer.
Advert states
Management experience essential

The AA, Wales and West pipelines contracts have gone along with EAAA and Police so the new guy will not have so much on his plate.

However the website still boasts the police and air ambulance contracts
I was just throwing out some old newspapers today when this from the Evening Standard caught my eye.

The face from the past that left me gasping | News
They could turn this in to a reality tv series...

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Helihub website is showing that Alan Mann has taken ownership of the Sterling aircraft and some Fast and TAMS? aircraft. Is this the sign of a new company strategy or just more smoke and mirrors. They now have a lot of aircraft they can't make money from. Debt consolidations?
Many of the aircraft previously registered to Sterling Helicopters Ltd, Fast Helicopters, Alan Mann Helicopters, Skydrift Ltd and Total Air Management Services Ltd. But not all such aircraft, by some way.

The ones which did changes are now in the name of "Alan Mann Aviation Group Ltd.". Up to May 2010 this company was previously called "Mann Avionics Ltd"

I'm sure there is a good reason behind this, but it would appear to be somewhere between "fiddling while Rome burns" and "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"
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TOTM2U,

Nice One

( I shall try harder next time )

I take it that your humorous analogy has something to do with Not Flying ?

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TOTM2U - excellent choice of clip and a realistic analogy
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I was quoting from ExMAGE on entry #145

I now understand from reading further down the threads that Alan Mann Group or whatever it is called is part of Longmint

Thanks

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You laughed with Lucille Ball not at her

Happy Memories
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Devil Megalomania rules ok

With Sterling losing their contracts, I am assuming here that EAAAS and Police have gone, but what about the pipeline inspections?

I know "assume" makes an ass out of u and me but I still have to do a lot of it with no hard facts.

With the assumption that new contracts have to be sought, it makes one wonder if the megalomaniac at the helm intends to bid for any of them After all someone has to do the work and so why not the kind, caring, well loved management at Longmint. They would have to do it as there isn't anyone else left is there? They were all tired of

Rumour has it that EAAAS is still owed for an engine. Is this the original engine or have they had to dig deep for another one? Hopefully not another one as I understand everything at Sterling was mortgaged or sold. Is it easy to remove an engine from a helicopter? Hopefully it will fit into the type that are at the company the contract goes to

It must be a hard line to walk trying to keep the air ambulance flying and dealing with Longmint. not one I would like to walk.

Good luck for the future of all Sterling/Longmint staff with the exception of very senior management.

Just where did all the money go?

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I understand only Nat Grid and a couple of tiny pipelines left so a couple of Jetrangers on those contracts appears to be the core of what is left.

A lot of overheads to cover so lets see what happens this week.

For more background click this link
The face from the past that left me gasping | News

To save you reading it here is the intro...

One of the members of my social set at university was called Lucy Cummings. I remember she studied English. Later, I was impressed that she was doing an MBA at Insead.

She was one of the first of my contemporaries to take this step and it seemed like a terribly grown-up thing to do. My circle of friends broke up and she disappeared from my consciousness.

Then, yesterday, there she was. I was reading a Sunday paper account of the spectacular crash of Erinaceous. My eyes were drawn to a picture of the chief operating officer. My God, it was Lucy.

In the same way that Lucy, I'm sure would say if asked, that never in a million years did she see me doing what I'm doing, I could not imagine her heading up a property services group worth more than £400 million and a stock market high-flier. If pressed, I would have thought she had become a teacher or was perhaps running her own small business somewhere.

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Just a thought, are any of the pilots and engineers still turning up for work?
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I could only imagine people are turning up because they have no where else to go. If they didn't urn up then it would be an excuse not to pay them; bearing in mind they are paid 5 weeks in arrears they would make it worse.

The moving of aircraft(ownership) looks suspicious at the moment; it may be completely above board but the timing doesn't look good.

Google is our friend, I found these with only a small amount of effort. They kind of show how they got here and sadly where thing might be going. Hopefully they managaed to pay the mortagage on the mansion before things go south.

Bellis family go to arbitration to set their house in order - Telegraph

Hedge fund calls for Erinaceous scalps - Times Online

Commercial Property and Business Property Listing - News

http://www.iaopa.eu/mediaServlet/sto...GA_pp14-15.pdf
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