My-helicopter-hell-Pensioner-wants-ASBO
The paddock behind the gardens looks fairly big and down to hay, couldn't they get permission to clear an heli-pad there, say 100yards away from the houses?
Forgive me..
I cant tell from the photo if the house is doubled glazed...
If it isn't, how would the press and public respond to a large group of sympathetic pilots pitching in to double glaze the front of the old dears property...
Would help keep her warm in winter too.....
I cant tell from the photo if the house is doubled glazed...
If it isn't, how would the press and public respond to a large group of sympathetic pilots pitching in to double glaze the front of the old dears property...
Would help keep her warm in winter too.....
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But imagine if it was a 47 landing there instead of that (relatively) quiet 269? Holy cow.
granted a straight stack 540 is veeeery loud, followed slowly by a straight out 435. for my money that is on a par with any 269 if not quiter than them, and of course the '47's get a lot quieter from there. 3B1's, to full on muffled types, none of which I have seen on 269's.
Holy Cow indeed, FH1100's aren't all quiet either.
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Sailor Vee
I'm not allowed to advise on the law but ..... if there was a loophole such as you suggest then the law would be bizarre.
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A general comment, purely as a helicopter pilot and therefore interested in the restrictions which already exist and concerned about further restrictions which could be introduced:
Just because you can legally do something doesn't mean it's sensible to do it.
Doing something for short-term personal enjoyment may increase the size of the anti lobby and, in consequence, damage the long-term interests of helicopter pilots generally.
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Where is FL?
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A general comment, purely as a helicopter pilot and therefore interested in the restrictions which already exist and concerned about further restrictions which could be introduced:
Just because you can legally do something doesn't mean it's sensible to do it.
Doing something for short-term personal enjoyment may increase the size of the anti lobby and, in consequence, damage the long-term interests of helicopter pilots generally.
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I'm surprised the old bitty has not complained about the Flag Pole!
I would think that being a 24 hour deal that would be more of a nuisance than the occasional helicopter.
The flapping, snapping, and such wind caused racket that would make would be a more reasonable complaint to me.
Not to mention....how unsightly it is!
It's not like he is flying the National Colours either!
FL,
Is not the use of Sharia Law instead of established law in the UK as odd as that Sailor Vee invites?
I would think that being a 24 hour deal that would be more of a nuisance than the occasional helicopter.
The flapping, snapping, and such wind caused racket that would make would be a more reasonable complaint to me.
Not to mention....how unsightly it is!
It's not like he is flying the National Colours either!
FL,
Is not the use of Sharia Law instead of established law in the UK as odd as that Sailor Vee invites?
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If I was sitting in my back yard having a beer with a few mates and that Helicopter arrived within 50ft of me the pilot better have a carton of beer with them. If not I would be complaining just like the lady in the article.
My opinion is it's too close to the neighbour and not a suitable HLS for frequent use.
Bloke
My opinion is it's too close to the neighbour and not a suitable HLS for frequent use.
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As I said on page one.... Unreasonable flying, creates problems for the rest of us!
Why risk close confines when there is a nice big Cow pasture within yards, seems a no brainer!
Peter R-B
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Why risk close confines when there is a nice big Cow pasture within yards, seems a no brainer!
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Hmmm, but you can only land on agricultural land for a period of twenty eight days a year... Where as a garden is avaliable all year for you and ANY visiting heli.
Had this problem with my 47 in our one acre field way, away at the back of the house, the planning lot didn't like it and served an enforcement order on us even though I only used it every three weeks or so, forcing us to move to a house three doors up with a larger garden, now the 47 sits proudly in the front garden in full view... mind you I spent some time with the new couple from next door and arranged a flight for one of them, he loved it and we have no complaints - wonder why...
Strangely all the complaints that I did have in the village here all seem to be from people that have recently moved in, knowing I had a helicopter and other odd hobbies, having said that they also complain about the street lights, yellow lines, tourist, litter, price of fish, need I go on? Then they get the lawn mower and strimmer out for three hours every Sunday afternoon!
Kevin.
Had this problem with my 47 in our one acre field way, away at the back of the house, the planning lot didn't like it and served an enforcement order on us even though I only used it every three weeks or so, forcing us to move to a house three doors up with a larger garden, now the 47 sits proudly in the front garden in full view... mind you I spent some time with the new couple from next door and arranged a flight for one of them, he loved it and we have no complaints - wonder why...
Strangely all the complaints that I did have in the village here all seem to be from people that have recently moved in, knowing I had a helicopter and other odd hobbies, having said that they also complain about the street lights, yellow lines, tourist, litter, price of fish, need I go on? Then they get the lawn mower and strimmer out for three hours every Sunday afternoon!
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I agree with the old lady on this one, who ever the pilot is, or how long they have been flying for. The simple fact is that helicopter is far to close to the neighbours house, any incident or accident can quite easily cause damage to the neighbours property or injury if the lady was outside. C'mon this is basic logic for a pilot. For the law that states you can, does not mean you should, LOOK at the safety implications.
And if the pilot says that sort of thing would not happen to me, then we already know. Its the kind of basic thought process if the aircraft is going to misbehave seriously now, is it safe for me to land 50ft away from a little old lady cutting a her hedge.!!!!
If these guys wanted to land and take off, even before attempting, full dimplomacy should have been taken to smooth the way.
And if the pilot says that sort of thing would not happen to me, then we already know. Its the kind of basic thought process if the aircraft is going to misbehave seriously now, is it safe for me to land 50ft away from a little old lady cutting a her hedge.!!!!
If these guys wanted to land and take off, even before attempting, full dimplomacy should have been taken to smooth the way.
Double glazing, the type used to keep houses warm, does virtually nothing to create any form of sound proofing. To provide any measure of sound proofing the air gap needs to be about 10 cms........
Gatwick and Heathrow have schemes to subsidise instalation of double glazing as part of their residential noise insulation scheme.
BAA Heathrow noise website: FAQ's - night noise
One of the options is
"A fifty per cent contribution to high specification double glazed PVCu replacement windows, specially designed to reduce noise levels"
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No wonder she objects
OK Guys,
I'm no helicopter offcionando, but looking at the pictures, if that thing landed in my back yard, it is so ugly I would at least throw a bucket of water over it. No wonder the old girl is so depressed. Some recent postings on other threads from Australia have identified a local method for handling offensive helicopter landings...send in the crocodiles I say!
Toungue firmly in cheek.
blakmax
I'm no helicopter offcionando, but looking at the pictures, if that thing landed in my back yard, it is so ugly I would at least throw a bucket of water over it. No wonder the old girl is so depressed. Some recent postings on other threads from Australia have identified a local method for handling offensive helicopter landings...send in the crocodiles I say!
Toungue firmly in cheek.
blakmax
Might I suggest that the HLS does not fulfill basic requirement of safe aviation practice?
ie 30m from nearest obstacle etc
Poor judgement by pilot IMHO - both in not taking the old girl for a flight and in choosing such a site in first place.
As FL mentioned - all because you can do it does not mean that you should - especially if you want to do it again again again
ie 30m from nearest obstacle etc
Poor judgement by pilot IMHO - both in not taking the old girl for a flight and in choosing such a site in first place.
As FL mentioned - all because you can do it does not mean that you should - especially if you want to do it again again again
Julie,
Where do you get your information from?
I believe you will find your rule would prevent most off shore landing sites from being used....as it would some lighthouses, most private sites, and more than a few heliports. I know for a fact it would prevent most bush flying.
Where do you get your information from?
I believe you will find your rule would prevent most off shore landing sites from being used....as it would some lighthouses, most private sites, and more than a few heliports. I know for a fact it would prevent most bush flying.
