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Old 10th Aug 2009, 15:57
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PIN machine on the end of the line, SATCOM to check funds, hefty admin charge or alternately buy your SAR-H insurance policy - that'll sort out the funding deficit!
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Old 19th Aug 2009, 08:44
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SAR H

Over the past 20 years i have had a good insight to SAR from RAF RN COASTGUARD and BOND whats wrong is while civi and mod are all spouting at each other whos the best whats the best, it would be much better if everyone got round the table and seen eye to eye.

1 proper helicopter
2 TRAINING

I would like to thanks all the sar crews for there work and indeed r131 for rescueing me in april

RAF founded SAR and has took it to a new level which we should be proud of and learn and help each other

Coastguard in shetland with the idea of the pumps in a container is the best idea i have seen

And the latest seaside rescue has shown the use of the hi-line with r193 which could be used better

Bond i was involved as a guy off the street with there training and they are starting to improve they need good training project

I would like to thank and praise all sar crews round the UK we have the bestin the world dont blow it
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Old 22nd Aug 2009, 20:46
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Full marks to CHC Stornoway, when a pump was needed the politics were put aside:

Newsroom - Press Releases

and here-

Lifeboat launched 21 Aug 09

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Old 26th Aug 2009, 08:30
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As I am supposed to be the expert, the blokes down the pub will be asking me what all the racket around the Bridge of Don area in Aberdeen was at around 2 o'clock this morning.
I initially thought it was a Sea King holding until the ARI was ready but it kept coming back again as if it was involved in a search.
An explanation would be nice to zip up the moaners.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 09:16
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This maybe:

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | North East/N Isles | Search launched for missing man

Search launched for missing man


An RAF helicopter was called in to help the search

A major search has been launched for a man missing in Aberdeen.
A search helicopter from RAF Lossiemouth was called in overnight, along with coastguard and lifeboat crews, after Gary Cheyne vanished.
The 43-year-old is said to be "vulnerable" and police said they were genuinely concerned for his safety.
He is described as 5ft 3in tall, stocky, with greying receding hair. He walks with a shuffle. Grampian Police appealed for him to make contact.
The alarm was raised when Mr Cheyne was reported missing from a friend's address in the Seaton area of the city.
He was last spotted at about 2220 BST on Tuesday night in the King Street and Ellon Road area.
When last seen he was wearing a blue/red jacket, a white jumper, and either dark blue jeans or tracksuit bottoms.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 09:51
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Thanks for that. Everything explained.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 16:35
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Oh yes we just love spending hours looking for 'vulnerable' missing persons especially in the dark!
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 17:21
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Question:

How does a helicopter search for a man, in a city, at night?

I have done cliff searches at night for said people, but in a city??????????????? How does THAT work?

Si

P.S. How does this relate to SARH going? Or am I being a spoilsport
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 19:56
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How does a helicopter search for a man, in a city, at night?

Start with a "Square search" followed by "Creeping Lane Ahead"?
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 06:30
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BigglesButler - I don't know the area but the 'Bridge of Don' sounds like the sort of coastal or waterway area more suited to the MCA and helicopter searching rather than the middle of a city

Unfortunately, as soon as there is any likelihood that the 'vulnerable' person may have entered or is likely to enter the water, the MCA get involved and then so do we.
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 08:57
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Oh yes we just love spending hours looking for 'vulnerable' missing persons especially in the dark!
You're not the only ones. It's even more fun when the mobile phone location is nowhere near where they are eventually found!
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 19:33
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Yes, I was shocked to find out the other day that the phone companies charge the police for pinging mobiles and in some cases we are talking hundreds of pounds - hence a hard-up police force is less likely to ask for the ping!
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Old 28th Aug 2009, 08:16
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Yes, and the results are not exactly brilliant. Usually something like "within a 1.5 mile radius of such and such mast". I found a company a few years ago who could pinpoint a phone down to 100m, but they needed the permission of the phone owner to do it.
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Old 28th Aug 2009, 10:14
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The Bridge of Don is coastal, with a bridge of the river Don - as it reaches the sea. It is also unfortunately (?) the largest surburb in Europe! Population of something over 22,000 and more houses than you should have to think about.

Having said that there are a number of large open areas - particularly along the coast - where a helicopter would be practical to use and most of the 22,000 would hear it!
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Old 28th Aug 2009, 15:46
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I used to live on the said King Street, and know both areas of Aberdeen well. That would be a very difficult area to search by helicopter..... infact the crew would have been better going by the works Astra. Assuming the press have the search area correctly stated
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Old 28th Aug 2009, 21:26
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the crew would have been better going by the works Astra
...which they could have driven there in first gear all the way, with someone steering with their feet from the back seat, while the front seat passenger operated the pedals with their hands...

Will there be the chance for such close crew co-operation under SAR-H? I think we should be told...
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Old 29th Aug 2009, 09:45
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Reminds me of the 'fifth and reverse only' challenge in driving the 78 Sherpa down south!
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Old 29th Aug 2009, 20:01
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Torque..... that's called CRM training/flex
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Old 29th Aug 2009, 21:35
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that's called CRM training/flex
Isn't it also called "Night Wets"?

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Old 30th Aug 2009, 21:10
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Agggh the 78 Sqn Sherpa. Now that is worthy of an entire thread all on its own! Title something like " Aircrew I have tried to kill - by a Sherpa"
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