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Another simulator question!
Hi,
I've done a search but can't find the answer......although i've got the official Robinson's manuals and DVDs is there a 'recognised' simulator I could either buy or visit to use whilst in between lessons?
Many thanks.
I've done a search but can't find the answer......although i've got the official Robinson's manuals and DVDs is there a 'recognised' simulator I could either buy or visit to use whilst in between lessons?
Many thanks.
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Apologies for raising an old thread...
The DCS Ka-50 Black Shark sim is now available in Russian version only (easy fix to convert to English game menus/cockpit). 25$ download.
Link to Forum and instructions
General Discussion - ED Forums
Feedback indicates that the flight modelling takes PC sims to a new level. Full English version available approx Feb/March.
The DCS Ka-50 Black Shark sim is now available in Russian version only (easy fix to convert to English game menus/cockpit). 25$ download.
Link to Forum and instructions
General Discussion - ED Forums
Feedback indicates that the flight modelling takes PC sims to a new level. Full English version available approx Feb/March.
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Black Shark
Hey guys,
first thing to raise up the discussions, I do sim flying since my tenth birthday (when i got my first pc). Starting with the hexagon kartell -> janes longbow series -> ms flight sims and so on. It was all great fun and I never expected it to be real, but when I started the PPL in 2006 I was able to hover and steer the R22 around some pylons in 40 minutes of training. It was really like switching from the sim, expect from the torque effects.
So I think it can really help to handle the helicopter, but also only to a certain point.
My newest purchase is the russian version of Black Shark and it really is a great sim. It hasnt been released in the western world yet, but you can at least switch the menu to english, so except for the training lessons, all is usable in the russian version.
To me it takes the hole sim flying to a new level...
-All aerodynamical parts are physically correct simulated, it goes down to the simulated airflow for each rotorblade.
-All buttons in the cockpit are clickable and usable.
-Vortex-Ring, collision of the main rotorblades, when exceeding vne and much more can all happen to you and so on.
-Radio navigation is fully integrated, it even is possible to loose satellite saturation to less than 4 when you fly through deep canions and so on.
I didnt know that would ever say that (concerning a sim), but yet I havent found a single thing is unrealistic in the hole handling and procedures of the helicopter.
Maybe the startup, but I havent ever used a fadec, so I cant really tell if those engine startup so easy. On the other side you cann really have a hot or hung start und will be forced to crank the engine and so on.
You might want to check out all the nice training videos on youtube. I can really recommend the game.
cheers eivissa.
first thing to raise up the discussions, I do sim flying since my tenth birthday (when i got my first pc). Starting with the hexagon kartell -> janes longbow series -> ms flight sims and so on. It was all great fun and I never expected it to be real, but when I started the PPL in 2006 I was able to hover and steer the R22 around some pylons in 40 minutes of training. It was really like switching from the sim, expect from the torque effects.
So I think it can really help to handle the helicopter, but also only to a certain point.
My newest purchase is the russian version of Black Shark and it really is a great sim. It hasnt been released in the western world yet, but you can at least switch the menu to english, so except for the training lessons, all is usable in the russian version.
To me it takes the hole sim flying to a new level...
-All aerodynamical parts are physically correct simulated, it goes down to the simulated airflow for each rotorblade.
-All buttons in the cockpit are clickable and usable.
-Vortex-Ring, collision of the main rotorblades, when exceeding vne and much more can all happen to you and so on.
-Radio navigation is fully integrated, it even is possible to loose satellite saturation to less than 4 when you fly through deep canions and so on.
I didnt know that would ever say that (concerning a sim), but yet I havent found a single thing is unrealistic in the hole handling and procedures of the helicopter.
Maybe the startup, but I havent ever used a fadec, so I cant really tell if those engine startup so easy. On the other side you cann really have a hot or hung start und will be forced to crank the engine and so on.
You might want to check out all the nice training videos on youtube. I can really recommend the game.
cheers eivissa.
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Whirls,
You think the first one factors in c of g changes with the pilot flying from the left hand set like in the promo video?
A bargain compared to those GBP13k toy cars at Harrods.....
You think the first one factors in c of g changes with the pilot flying from the left hand set like in the promo video?
A bargain compared to those GBP13k toy cars at Harrods.....
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Originally Posted by eivissa
I didnt know that would ever say that (concerning a sim), but yet I havent found a single thing is unrealistic in the hole handling and procedures of the helicopter.
press to reset and you have to be quick to center your joystick or the machine will tip-over. Well can't do better with the desktop Joysticks, probably works ok with the "Force Feedback" ones - but those are 4-8 times less accurate 
. Some time ago I started on a project of a precise joystick for computer helo sims with proper trim, but had to put it on hold, as lately had no spare time due to work on my term paper.
BTW, DCS: Black Shark (Чeрnaя Акула) will be released worldwide in January. To bad it's coaxial, will have to wait at least two years for DCS: Apache to fly proper combat helicopter
oh, and the DodoSim will release their new Bell 206 for FSX soon - that's something worth waiting for too:DodoSim 206 FSX TEch Demo Oct 08 - Putfile.com
oh, well then, thats why I said, I havent found anything...yet
Havent tested every detail...not even bothered about the force trim or the weapons system. I am still trying to figure out the best way to auto the coaxial system, do paddle turns and find the vortex ring limitations. The rotor blade physics really are great fun.
www.leftside-limited.com/news
This guys have worked out some interesting tools to make helicopter sim flying a little bit more accurate. Would love to test these tools some time and trackIR aswell.
www.leftside-limited.com/collective/left-colli.jpg
Havent tested every detail...not even bothered about the force trim or the weapons system. I am still trying to figure out the best way to auto the coaxial system, do paddle turns and find the vortex ring limitations. The rotor blade physics really are great fun.
www.leftside-limited.com/news
This guys have worked out some interesting tools to make helicopter sim flying a little bit more accurate. Would love to test these tools some time and trackIR aswell.
www.leftside-limited.com/collective/left-colli.jpg
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S61 For MS Flight Sim X
Does anybody know where on the web I can get hold of an S61 cockpit model for MS Flight Sim X? There are plenty for 95/98 but I am not smart enough to convert them to X. Anybody out there already done one?
Thanks
Hompy
Thanks
Hompy
You could try Helicopter Simulation and Helicopter Training -> File downloads -> Search for "S61" (all categories). Worked for me...
Regards eivissa.
Regards eivissa.
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This and Hovercontrol are the two best places for helicopters
The World's Largest Freeware Dedicated Flight Simulator Website - Microsoft Flight Simulator X, FSX, FS2004 FS2004, FS2002, FS2000, FS98, Combat Flight Simulator 3, CFS3, CFS2 & CFS Add-ons!
I have a few S61 cockpits working with earlier fs2004 aircraft, but i doubt they are any good I havnt seen a good S61 cockpit yet
perhaps steal one from one of the good seakings avalible to download they usually have good panels and virtual cockpits
I now have over 300 helicopters in my fsx hangar, simviation is very good
Simon
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I have a few S61 cockpits working with earlier fs2004 aircraft, but i doubt they are any good I havnt seen a good S61 cockpit yet
perhaps steal one from one of the good seakings avalible to download they usually have good panels and virtual cockpits
I now have over 300 helicopters in my fsx hangar, simviation is very good
Simon
These guys make some awsome helicopter models, the FSX models are payware thou.. The EC135 cockpit is modelled beautifully!
Nemeth Designs Development Group - Products
This chap is modelling a AS332L2 for FSX, its nearly finished..
FSX AS332L2 gmax model
Regarding the S-61, if anyone is willing to provide manual information and take a zillion photos of the machine then i can pass it onto the nemeth chaps and they will gladly model it!
Nemeth Designs Development Group - Products
This chap is modelling a AS332L2 for FSX, its nearly finished..
FSX AS332L2 gmax model
Regarding the S-61, if anyone is willing to provide manual information and take a zillion photos of the machine then i can pass it onto the nemeth chaps and they will gladly model it!
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Nemeths got S-61 RFM, although eventually did not proceed with the project - check their forum, posts about a year ago.
I begun working on it, although even with some help, couldn't gather enough material, so I had to temporarily put it on hold. I currently started working on the S-58JT instead, will get back to the 61 after finishing that one.
I begun working on it, although even with some help, couldn't gather enough material, so I had to temporarily put it on hold. I currently started working on the S-58JT instead, will get back to the 61 after finishing that one.