Guimbal Cabri G2
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Hey guys
I wanted to shed more light on the Cabri G2 in the pacific. There are 2 Cabris already in Sydney and the dealership is open for endorsements and aircraft sales. 2 should arrive in Christchurch New Zealand in the next month or so. More information on the following websites
Cabri G2 now available through Pacific Aircraft Sales, New Zealand
Guimbal Cabri G2 Helicopter Dealer Australia
I so far have flown the Cabri 4 times and am up-most impressed with the Helicopter.
First of all, the helicopter gets hired out at the same rate as the R22. With only around 30 hours on the demonstrator and the aircraft being sold its hard to tell with complete serenity how much cheaper the Cabri G2 really is at this present moment. With this said I will put my entire worth on the table and bet that it will be miles cheaper the 300cbi, and 300c to run. The website that posted the running figures are far from the truth when it comes to owing an R22 or a H300cbi.
A little review of the controls:
About the stiff cyclic: I fount that the cabri has the sensitivity of R22 but the instant response you would get in a fully articulated system. The result a very quick, precise machine. (I suspect that a lot of the comments come from R22, R44 drivers who may not be used to operating the trim/forget to use it) I also would like to note that once you are trimmed out, the cyclic is perfect for maneuvering because all you need are "pressure movements" to change the attitude.
The collective is a nice change as well. The metal shiny grip is where you hold it, while the black throttle is left free to move. No more overspeeds due to students gripping too hard on the collective throttle. I doubt the Robinson R22 or the H300cbi figures incorporate those mishaps. Collective also does not raise or fall when let go to reach for the radios.
The mixture controls, magneto controls and the rotor break are above your head. Virtually eliminating the situation of accidentally pulling something you should not during the flight.
ELT controls are on the vertical panel in between the seats, again same deal here; really easy to reach, but hard to trip by accident.
The Sydney dealership currently has got one for sale for 400,000AUD and have got a listing on global plane search for the Ferrari Itallia yellow Cabri. 1hour in cabri is 500AUD.
Just my two cents worth to those who are interested.
Fly safe!
I wanted to shed more light on the Cabri G2 in the pacific. There are 2 Cabris already in Sydney and the dealership is open for endorsements and aircraft sales. 2 should arrive in Christchurch New Zealand in the next month or so. More information on the following websites
Cabri G2 now available through Pacific Aircraft Sales, New Zealand
Guimbal Cabri G2 Helicopter Dealer Australia
I so far have flown the Cabri 4 times and am up-most impressed with the Helicopter.
First of all, the helicopter gets hired out at the same rate as the R22. With only around 30 hours on the demonstrator and the aircraft being sold its hard to tell with complete serenity how much cheaper the Cabri G2 really is at this present moment. With this said I will put my entire worth on the table and bet that it will be miles cheaper the 300cbi, and 300c to run. The website that posted the running figures are far from the truth when it comes to owing an R22 or a H300cbi.
A little review of the controls:
About the stiff cyclic: I fount that the cabri has the sensitivity of R22 but the instant response you would get in a fully articulated system. The result a very quick, precise machine. (I suspect that a lot of the comments come from R22, R44 drivers who may not be used to operating the trim/forget to use it) I also would like to note that once you are trimmed out, the cyclic is perfect for maneuvering because all you need are "pressure movements" to change the attitude.
The collective is a nice change as well. The metal shiny grip is where you hold it, while the black throttle is left free to move. No more overspeeds due to students gripping too hard on the collective throttle. I doubt the Robinson R22 or the H300cbi figures incorporate those mishaps. Collective also does not raise or fall when let go to reach for the radios.
The mixture controls, magneto controls and the rotor break are above your head. Virtually eliminating the situation of accidentally pulling something you should not during the flight.
ELT controls are on the vertical panel in between the seats, again same deal here; really easy to reach, but hard to trip by accident.
The Sydney dealership currently has got one for sale for 400,000AUD and have got a listing on global plane search for the Ferrari Itallia yellow Cabri. 1hour in cabri is 500AUD.
Just my two cents worth to those who are interested.
Fly safe!
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500 AUD for 1 hour in a Cabri = 535.35 U.S. dollars. That's a steep price tag if it is supposed to compete with said R22 or 300. Is this normal for Australia?
And the collective doesn't drop in a new 30hrs shiny R22 either
And the collective doesn't drop in a new 30hrs shiny R22 either
500 AUD for 1 hour in a Cabri = 535.35 U.S. dollars. That's a steep price tag if it is supposed to compete with said R22 or 300. Is this normal for Australia?
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In all honesty its also to do with strong australian dollar. (Actually, very weak US dollar, but hey same difference) and price of oil directly affecting the price of shipping parts.
Well, when I have flown it the collective didnt feel like it has a crappy biro-pen type of spring used in the R22 but rather was held there firmly in place and didn't feel like it was prone to wear like the Collective spring in R22. But you are totally right in saying that only time will tell.
Well, when I have flown it the collective didnt feel like it has a crappy biro-pen type of spring used in the R22 but rather was held there firmly in place and didn't feel like it was prone to wear like the Collective spring in R22. But you are totally right in saying that only time will tell.
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Hi there,
nothing new here since a while...
OK, let me show you a new version of the cockpit :
Remember this one : http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/296...ml#post5345571 ?
Well, what's new? Oh, yes, a dual glass panel!
The upper one is unchanged while the new lower one runs the GPS software.
They share a unique frame while beeing totally independant.
Also note on the console an integrated trackball with 6 (yes 6) buttons.
Left to the dual-screen, between the airspeed and the heading indicators, the attitude indicator is also a digital display. Included is a turn coordinator.
Last but not least, have a look at the pedals.
By pulling out of axis each of them, then moving forward or backwards the tiltable upper part, you adjust them to your size. Much simpler than adjusting your legs to the copter...
One size fits all!
Central S.
p.s. on the right side of the NAV screen, an USB socket enables loading of new charts or updated software.
Below this socket is a push-button for turning on the NAV equipment only, allowing the preparation -or transfer via USB- of a flight plan without exhausting the battery.
Power management includes all what you can think about, including auto-shutdown if you forget it.
nothing new here since a while...
OK, let me show you a new version of the cockpit :
Remember this one : http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/296...ml#post5345571 ?
Well, what's new? Oh, yes, a dual glass panel!
The upper one is unchanged while the new lower one runs the GPS software.
They share a unique frame while beeing totally independant.
Also note on the console an integrated trackball with 6 (yes 6) buttons.
Left to the dual-screen, between the airspeed and the heading indicators, the attitude indicator is also a digital display. Included is a turn coordinator.
Last but not least, have a look at the pedals.
By pulling out of axis each of them, then moving forward or backwards the tiltable upper part, you adjust them to your size. Much simpler than adjusting your legs to the copter...
One size fits all!
Central S.
p.s. on the right side of the NAV screen, an USB socket enables loading of new charts or updated software.
Below this socket is a push-button for turning on the NAV equipment only, allowing the preparation -or transfer via USB- of a flight plan without exhausting the battery.
Power management includes all what you can think about, including auto-shutdown if you forget it.
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Yes, this is the last one delivered to Heli-Aviation.
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Well, this is what I heard about... Somewhat astonished, too. I don't track all of the helos.
What I'm sure of is that they recently ordered one more with the TwinScreen version of the dashboard.
C.S.
What I'm sure of is that they recently ordered one more with the TwinScreen version of the dashboard.
C.S.
Does anyone know if there are any examples of this helicopter in Melbourne, Australia yet?
Cattletruck,
I agree.
It takes a while sometimes for manufacturers to spot what is "bleeding obvious" to some operators.
Cultural differences.
How many R22's in Oz came unstuck with "loose objects" in amongst the pedals? Read "empty shell cases".
I agree.
It takes a while sometimes for manufacturers to spot what is "bleeding obvious" to some operators.
Cultural differences.
How many R22's in Oz came unstuck with "loose objects" in amongst the pedals? Read "empty shell cases".
As soon as you make something idiot-proof, along comes another idiot. -- Grave's Law
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A scoop before first presentation at Aero2012 in Friedrichshafen, some news pics:
Landscape:
Portrait:
Folded:
The FlyPad dock can be mounted on both side of the dashboard. It includes a 2 Amp power supply and the 30-pin connector.
The TwinScreen and the iPad run the same software.
Fresh news here : http://www.guimbal.com/newsletters/e...rch%202012.pdf
and here : http://www.guimbal.com/nouveau/newsl...ars%202012.pdf
The next Cabri, which should be delivered in Friedrichshafen to a Danish operator, will be fitted with a TwinScreen and 2 FlyPad.
C.S.
Landscape:
Portrait:
Folded:
The FlyPad dock can be mounted on both side of the dashboard. It includes a 2 Amp power supply and the 30-pin connector.
The TwinScreen and the iPad run the same software.
Fresh news here : http://www.guimbal.com/newsletters/e...rch%202012.pdf
and here : http://www.guimbal.com/nouveau/newsl...ars%202012.pdf
The next Cabri, which should be delivered in Friedrichshafen to a Danish operator, will be fitted with a TwinScreen and 2 FlyPad.
C.S.
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Not a bad bit of kit - yer can do somethin like a snap roll in them (well thats what it felt like to me) and stay in one piece...
Tad pricey to be chasing the moo's with though - and what robby trained bush mechanic is going to know what to do with all them plastic parts..
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Not a bad bit of kit - yer can do somethin like a snap roll in them (well thats what it felt like to me) and stay in one piece...
Tad pricey to be chasing the moo's with though - and what robby trained bush mechanic is going to know what to do with all them plastic parts..
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haha - no I wasn't really referring to the accidents (I only tacked on my question to this thread having looked to see what the general impressions were).
Just wondered how it was to fly, service, run, etc...
Just wondered how it was to fly, service, run, etc...