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so Sandgroper, in line with your arguments that get smaller as your endless page unrolls, or was that the writing? I'll state the bleeding obvious and ask, did you enjoy seeing the Christians being carved up by the Gladiators today?
I haven't seen from your good self any thread of sympathy for quite some displaced staff eastside that will need some assistance to re-adjust when it is found that next year the market is for fat cows, not skinny ones, or is that fat cats?
Just for you I'll pass on an adage from a politician, it's goes like this.
'never take any notice of your constituents unless they present you with a petition signed by 50,000 of em.'
I happened to be sent one such petition this am, and yeah you'll have to guess how many, but there's quite some signatures on it.
Taa taa now
tet
I haven't seen from your good self any thread of sympathy for quite some displaced staff eastside that will need some assistance to re-adjust when it is found that next year the market is for fat cows, not skinny ones, or is that fat cats?
Just for you I'll pass on an adage from a politician, it's goes like this.
'never take any notice of your constituents unless they present you with a petition signed by 50,000 of em.'
I happened to be sent one such petition this am, and yeah you'll have to guess how many, but there's quite some signatures on it.
Taa taa now
tet
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Compromise......
Sand blaster
...Not sure what was in your post for me..... didnt answer any of my questions... rather seemed like a general rant...
My question was
Why not compromise
NSW Ambulance contract CHC airframes and engineering, and Careflight and Wetpac operate them...
Is this not Logical???
Just for you Sundance76
My question was
Is it true..... Care-flight's contract is being terminated at the end of December 2006, while Westpac continues until CHC contract commencement in April 2007.....Anyone know the facts?
Why not compromise
NSW Ambulance contract CHC airframes and engineering, and Careflight and Wetpac operate them...
- Provides greater control measures Ambo's seem to be looking for
- Provides profits CHC looking for (Airframes and Engineering)
- Allows Careflgiht and Westpac to continue... Albeit with greater control by Ambo's
- Provides improved Capability and Control of NGO's Ambo's are looking for....
- Provides Ambo's access to sponsors and fundraising to reduce overall costs....
- NSW Public recieve same service offerred by CHC, but without public outcry....
- Everyone happy...
Is this not Logical???
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employment opportunities bring it on
It is official, CHC has distributed letters of employment to existing staff at the greater sydney service. It states that there is a special streamlined process for existing employees of current providers. I am pissed off my management, Ive done the right thing by them and they did not pass this on I recieved a copy from a mate. So much for our current management looking after us they can get you know what.
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career furtherment
Jim,
is ok for furtherment if you are a crewie under 30, bit hard for some of us older fella's trying to keep up with CHC's down the wire fitness standard so they can send you to whatever contract requires people. Poor ol Chief found that one out. Pilots ok they can get fat and old and zoom around Nigeria. Engineers week/fortnight/month on and off in who knows where this week? whoo hoo
Dissappointment,
hear hear E86, it's up to you to look after number 1, don't expect a free ride in this industry. There are better places to work than the sewers of sydney, especially if you are in 412's scrounged out of the deserts of Arizona. Good Luck
It's a life style choice, work to live not live to work and I for one would prefer the community based set up, less stress and no hassles trying to get your pay sorted out by someone thousands of kilometres away and is rewarding when the ex patients come in for a chat. Go for the big bucks fella's but as a wise old crewie told me years ago "You won't get rich doing this job, you do it because you enjoy it."
is ok for furtherment if you are a crewie under 30, bit hard for some of us older fella's trying to keep up with CHC's down the wire fitness standard so they can send you to whatever contract requires people. Poor ol Chief found that one out. Pilots ok they can get fat and old and zoom around Nigeria. Engineers week/fortnight/month on and off in who knows where this week? whoo hoo
Dissappointment,
hear hear E86, it's up to you to look after number 1, don't expect a free ride in this industry. There are better places to work than the sewers of sydney, especially if you are in 412's scrounged out of the deserts of Arizona. Good Luck
It's a life style choice, work to live not live to work and I for one would prefer the community based set up, less stress and no hassles trying to get your pay sorted out by someone thousands of kilometres away and is rewarding when the ex patients come in for a chat. Go for the big bucks fella's but as a wise old crewie told me years ago "You won't get rich doing this job, you do it because you enjoy it."
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LHS.
You are a F$#&K Wit! I hope I never have a squeezer like you on my crew.
Step up mate. If your going to use the 'Chief' in your spray, then you better have your S*#t in a pile. It's a fine line your walking.
The fitness tests are created so the down the wire guys can do their job, and help the public. Not pamper your sorry arse.
You are a F$#&K Wit! I hope I never have a squeezer like you on my crew.
Step up mate. If your going to use the 'Chief' in your spray, then you better have your S*#t in a pile. It's a fine line your walking.
The fitness tests are created so the down the wire guys can do their job, and help the public. Not pamper your sorry arse.
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thankyou for your comments and suggest you read my post a little more carefully before beating your chest. That's what I said, CHC have their fitness test, so that everyone can be used as DTW crew as required. Been there and done that and yes thankyou again, my ****e is in one very neat pile.
Now if your's was organised you would know "Chief" was a moving force in trying to get the test modified for the older type crewman as you may find out one day if stay with the job. He had a long conversation about it with my Father one day a while ago. Unfortunately the company isn't interested in changing it and that for me means I'm not interested in being employed by them again and will move on to the next thing.
I have only the highest regard for the blokes that go down the wire, but for me those days are past, only want to drive the winch these days and keep an eye on the pilots.
Hopefully I have stepped up far enough for you and once again thanks for your comments but I won't take them on board and thanks for your concern but my arse has now healed and doing well enough that I can do my job.
LHS
thankyou for your comments and suggest you read my post a little more carefully before beating your chest. That's what I said, CHC have their fitness test, so that everyone can be used as DTW crew as required. Been there and done that and yes thankyou again, my ****e is in one very neat pile.
Now if your's was organised you would know "Chief" was a moving force in trying to get the test modified for the older type crewman as you may find out one day if stay with the job. He had a long conversation about it with my Father one day a while ago. Unfortunately the company isn't interested in changing it and that for me means I'm not interested in being employed by them again and will move on to the next thing.
I have only the highest regard for the blokes that go down the wire, but for me those days are past, only want to drive the winch these days and keep an eye on the pilots.
Hopefully I have stepped up far enough for you and once again thanks for your comments but I won't take them on board and thanks for your concern but my arse has now healed and doing well enough that I can do my job.
LHS
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You were a bit harsh on LHS, being christmass and all. What is the issue with the Physical? what does a CHC crew Physical involve, surely they have crew over thirty.
Anyway best wishes to all over the holiday period and LHS best of luck with your future.
You were a bit harsh on LHS, being christmass and all. What is the issue with the Physical? what does a CHC crew Physical involve, surely they have crew over thirty.
Anyway best wishes to all over the holiday period and LHS best of luck with your future.
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LHS.
You are a F$#&K Wit! I hope I never have a squeezer like you on my crew.
Step up mate. If your going to use the 'Chief' in your spray, then you better have your S*#t in a pile. It's a fine line your walking.
The fitness tests are created so the down the wire guys can do their job, and help the public. Not pamper your sorry arse.
You are a F$#&K Wit! I hope I never have a squeezer like you on my crew.
Step up mate. If your going to use the 'Chief' in your spray, then you better have your S*#t in a pile. It's a fine line your walking.
The fitness tests are created so the down the wire guys can do their job, and help the public. Not pamper your sorry arse.
Get a grip fool
and read the post before you reply. That way you may be able to not make yourself out to be not as big a ****** than you already seem to be Down the wire and winch op are two totally different jobs
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all over bar the shouting
sea breeze,
thanks for the good wishes, looks like they will be needed, was announced today that a "compromise" had been reached between NSW Gov and CareFlight (not sure about Life Saver), looks like the doctors, some office staff and HIRT crews are safe, the rest thanks for coming your on your own. Things will continue as before until end of April when CHC machines take over.
Was a few years ago that I did a CHC Australia Aircrewman fitness test, if I recall rightly (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong) it was, not in any order:
8 chin ups, 40 push ups, 50 sit ups, 3 km run in 15 minutes, 700 mt swim in 20 mins, 10 min treading water and 2 to 3 mt duck dive, then into wet suit and fins and 300 mts on back. I look up to the blokes over 40 who can still do this easily as I ain't one of them.
All the best for 2007 to all the Rotorheads
thanks for the good wishes, looks like they will be needed, was announced today that a "compromise" had been reached between NSW Gov and CareFlight (not sure about Life Saver), looks like the doctors, some office staff and HIRT crews are safe, the rest thanks for coming your on your own. Things will continue as before until end of April when CHC machines take over.
Was a few years ago that I did a CHC Australia Aircrewman fitness test, if I recall rightly (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong) it was, not in any order:
8 chin ups, 40 push ups, 50 sit ups, 3 km run in 15 minutes, 700 mt swim in 20 mins, 10 min treading water and 2 to 3 mt duck dive, then into wet suit and fins and 300 mts on back. I look up to the blokes over 40 who can still do this easily as I ain't one of them.
All the best for 2007 to all the Rotorheads
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Gentlemen (I use the term loosely when referring to some correspondents!) here is the deal.
CareFlight came last in the tendering process - the reason - bidders were allowed compliant and non-compliant bids. Compliant bids were purely commercial and allowed no sponsorship - CareFlight could not compete here with large multi nationals. Here's the rub though - in order to get your non-compliant bid looked at you first had to win with a compliant bid!
CareFlight's non-compliant, heavily sponsored bid is the one that would have saved the NSW taxpayers 100 plus million dollars over the life of the contract.
Another rub - unbeknowns to the bidders, there was a "Governance" committee which oversaw the Tender Evaluation Committee, all the hard decisions were referred to the "Governance" committee for resolution - alledgedly one member of the "Governance" committee was the CEO of NSW Ambulance.
It is rumoured that more than one member of the Tender Evaluation Committee was unhappy with the outcome.
Where to now for NSW Health - having bitten off financially more than they could chew they had to secure CareFlight's fundraising to help pay for their new toy's. To the p!ss takers - yes the chocolate wheels and chook raffles are back! To suck up to CareFlight they promised that HIRT could continue - indeed even expand to two machines and that CHC helicopters would prominently display "NRMA CareFlight" logos. Note this is politicians making promises not Ambulance or CHC!
The logic of this astounds me - if it is true that Ambulance wanted to get rid of the burr under the saddle that was CareFlight - how in the wide world would they sanction a privately funded, self responding helicopter service that is going to arrived rapidly to all primaries like a knight on a white charger saying "get out of the way we are here to help" - I don't think so! HIRT is a "trial" at some stage the results will be evaluated and if not satisfactory the plug will be pulled.
Already there are indications that CareFlight fundraisers (unfortunately the best ones) are going to pull the pin - it will be hard to raise funds, particularly in rural areas, to support doctors.
Don't believe Not So, Novel and Lambrain they are only parroting scripts given to them by their bureaucratic masters.
I would suggest that overall CHC and CareFlight's aviation standards are neck and neck with CareFlight winning by a nose on the line.
The system that NSW is going to get will not be as good as CareFlight could have provided when looked at from a medical point of view and will cost the taxpayer, involuntarily, a lot more.
How any rational person can say that the process gave everyone a fair go is beyond me - to quote The Castle "Son, tell him he's dreamin'"
Here endeth the lesson.
GAGS
E86
PS I am an aviation whore - I will consider any offer CHC makes to me.
CareFlight came last in the tendering process - the reason - bidders were allowed compliant and non-compliant bids. Compliant bids were purely commercial and allowed no sponsorship - CareFlight could not compete here with large multi nationals. Here's the rub though - in order to get your non-compliant bid looked at you first had to win with a compliant bid!
CareFlight's non-compliant, heavily sponsored bid is the one that would have saved the NSW taxpayers 100 plus million dollars over the life of the contract.
Another rub - unbeknowns to the bidders, there was a "Governance" committee which oversaw the Tender Evaluation Committee, all the hard decisions were referred to the "Governance" committee for resolution - alledgedly one member of the "Governance" committee was the CEO of NSW Ambulance.
It is rumoured that more than one member of the Tender Evaluation Committee was unhappy with the outcome.
Where to now for NSW Health - having bitten off financially more than they could chew they had to secure CareFlight's fundraising to help pay for their new toy's. To the p!ss takers - yes the chocolate wheels and chook raffles are back! To suck up to CareFlight they promised that HIRT could continue - indeed even expand to two machines and that CHC helicopters would prominently display "NRMA CareFlight" logos. Note this is politicians making promises not Ambulance or CHC!
The logic of this astounds me - if it is true that Ambulance wanted to get rid of the burr under the saddle that was CareFlight - how in the wide world would they sanction a privately funded, self responding helicopter service that is going to arrived rapidly to all primaries like a knight on a white charger saying "get out of the way we are here to help" - I don't think so! HIRT is a "trial" at some stage the results will be evaluated and if not satisfactory the plug will be pulled.
Already there are indications that CareFlight fundraisers (unfortunately the best ones) are going to pull the pin - it will be hard to raise funds, particularly in rural areas, to support doctors.
Don't believe Not So, Novel and Lambrain they are only parroting scripts given to them by their bureaucratic masters.
I would suggest that overall CHC and CareFlight's aviation standards are neck and neck with CareFlight winning by a nose on the line.
The system that NSW is going to get will not be as good as CareFlight could have provided when looked at from a medical point of view and will cost the taxpayer, involuntarily, a lot more.
How any rational person can say that the process gave everyone a fair go is beyond me - to quote The Castle "Son, tell him he's dreamin'"
Here endeth the lesson.
GAGS
E86
PS I am an aviation whore - I will consider any offer CHC makes to me.
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Another rub - unbeknowns to the bidders, there was a "Governance" committee which oversaw the Tender Evaluation Committee, all the hard decisions were referred to the "Governance" committee for resolution - alledgedly one member of the "Governance" committee was the CEO of NSW Ambulance.
and that CHC helicopters would prominently display "NRMA CareFlight" logos. Note this is politicians making promises not Ambulance or CHC!
and that CHC helicopters would prominently display "NRMA CareFlight" logos. Note this is politicians making promises not Ambulance or CHC!
I must say, I checked your scribe this am and the revelations surprised me so much that i nearly spilt my morning brew! ~poor show.
There seems plenty more ammunition for "interested" parties to crawl around investigating, e.g. where in the state tendering legislation does the "governance" committee fits and, their capacity to "resolve" things?
As for logos of a trampled company being carried around by the victor, someone must be joking.
An ambo you say, a senior one I guess for sure, but still one who goes home from a secure salaried job, no constituents to vote him out, no bank manager or share holders to answer to, what on earth would he be there for?
sounds like that idiot decision years ago when the fat cats decided that Nomads were good for us, without one opinion from a professional aviator in the commercial field.
i must say, 'an extra 100 million wasted' will roll off the tongue very easily in the lead up to the election for those who wish to use it.
Poor old sandy hasn't figured out the last political adage that i gave him yet so I'll spill the next one, goes like this,
'when constituents start to vote with their feet, always double the outcome expected!'
See how long it takes for him to work that one out.
me thinks the old fat lady is winding up for a big sing- sing. ~poor show all round~ have fun you guys
The Australain Newspaper, Friday 29 December 2006 on page 3 (Second edition - Queensland).
Pilots
Engineers - engine, airframe and avionics.
Aicrewpersons.
"Due to significant expansion within NSW, CHC Helicopters (Ausyralia) is looking for full time permanent Captains, Engineers and Aircrew.
If anyone needs a scanned copy please PM.
Best of luck!
Pilots
Engineers - engine, airframe and avionics.
Aicrewpersons.
"Due to significant expansion within NSW, CHC Helicopters (Ausyralia) is looking for full time permanent Captains, Engineers and Aircrew.
If anyone needs a scanned copy please PM.
Best of luck!
Further to above, current advertisement at 29 Dec '06 is as follows. (No need to PM - copy with specs is here):
CHC Helicopters - Australia
HELICOPTER PILOTS, ENGINEERS and
AIRCREW PERSONS
CHC is Australia's largest operator of civil helicopters services and provides EMS, SAR and Offshore helicopter support operations throughout Australia. Due to our recent contract success with the Ambulance Service of New South Wales In the Sydney and Orange areas, applications
are now invited from suitably qualified personnel to fill these new positions. CHC offers:
> The latest generation aircraft, equipment and technology
> Secure, long term employment
> A wide variety of interesting and challenging work
> Excellent working conditions and lifestyle opportunities
> Opportunities for further development
Pilots (CHC244) - qualifications required for these Command positions are:
Previous EMS experience in multi engine aircraft
Competent flying skills in IFR operations
ATPL(H) and Aviation Medical Class 1
Command Instrument Rating with 3 renewals
2,500 hrs helicopter. 2,000 hrs PIC helicopter, 500 hrs PIC (ME) and 1500 hrs PIC turbine engine helicopters
Engineers - Engline/Airframe/Avionics (CHC245) - qualifications required for engineers are:
Prefer CASA Group 20 Helicopter LAME licence
Extensive field experience, have a proven ability to plan and carry out line maintenance, base maintenance and modifications
Proven ability to be flexible and work unsupervised
Aircrew (CHC246) - minimum qualifications required for aircrew persons are:
Qualified Air crewperson in helicopter SAR/EMS operations with 500 hours experience
Senior First Aid Certificate and HUET
CAO 29:11 Certificate of Competency
Class 2 CASA Medical Certificate
SLSA Bronze Medallion" or equivalent
If you are looking to expand your career and you have:
Previous or current experience in helicopter EMS operations
The ability to report to work within one hour of Bankstown or Orange Bases
Strong interpersonal, written and oral communication skills
The ability to work as an elective member of a highly professional organisation
The aptitude to comprehend and apply technical instruction
E-mail your application today, outlining how your skills and experience meet the minimum requirements set out above, to our Human Resources Coordinator at [email protected]
Please state in the subject line which position you are applying for.
Please note that applications without the required qualifications will not be considered although relevant military experience will be taken Into consideration.
CHC Helicopters (Australia) is an Equal Opportunity Employer
CHC Helicopters - Australia
HELICOPTER PILOTS, ENGINEERS and
AIRCREW PERSONS
CHC is Australia's largest operator of civil helicopters services and provides EMS, SAR and Offshore helicopter support operations throughout Australia. Due to our recent contract success with the Ambulance Service of New South Wales In the Sydney and Orange areas, applications
are now invited from suitably qualified personnel to fill these new positions. CHC offers:
> The latest generation aircraft, equipment and technology
> Secure, long term employment
> A wide variety of interesting and challenging work
> Excellent working conditions and lifestyle opportunities
> Opportunities for further development
Pilots (CHC244) - qualifications required for these Command positions are:
Previous EMS experience in multi engine aircraft
Competent flying skills in IFR operations
ATPL(H) and Aviation Medical Class 1
Command Instrument Rating with 3 renewals
2,500 hrs helicopter. 2,000 hrs PIC helicopter, 500 hrs PIC (ME) and 1500 hrs PIC turbine engine helicopters
Engineers - Engline/Airframe/Avionics (CHC245) - qualifications required for engineers are:
Prefer CASA Group 20 Helicopter LAME licence
Extensive field experience, have a proven ability to plan and carry out line maintenance, base maintenance and modifications
Proven ability to be flexible and work unsupervised
Aircrew (CHC246) - minimum qualifications required for aircrew persons are:
Qualified Air crewperson in helicopter SAR/EMS operations with 500 hours experience
Senior First Aid Certificate and HUET
CAO 29:11 Certificate of Competency
Class 2 CASA Medical Certificate
SLSA Bronze Medallion" or equivalent
If you are looking to expand your career and you have:
Previous or current experience in helicopter EMS operations
The ability to report to work within one hour of Bankstown or Orange Bases
Strong interpersonal, written and oral communication skills
The ability to work as an elective member of a highly professional organisation
The aptitude to comprehend and apply technical instruction
E-mail your application today, outlining how your skills and experience meet the minimum requirements set out above, to our Human Resources Coordinator at [email protected]
Please state in the subject line which position you are applying for.
Please note that applications without the required qualifications will not be considered although relevant military experience will be taken Into consideration.
CHC Helicopters (Australia) is an Equal Opportunity Employer
I don't suppose that getting all wound up about this would do anyone any good, would it?
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Up for grabs...
I'm sure everyone that is currently flying on the contract will get a look in with CHC, providing you pass their standard entry requirements. This would provide you better conditions, better pay, better (more capable) aircraft. It's a win win for the current Careflight drivers and crewman.
Legally, CHC had to advertise.
Quickdraw
Legally, CHC had to advertise.
Quickdraw