External Load / Longline Training (Merged Threads)
Joined: Dec 2000
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From: West Yorkshire, UK
Background reading
For those that want to read more on Long Lining see the links below. I know they are hosted on the LA Helicopters site but were written by a non LAH person for HeliOps Magazine.
Los Angeles Helicopters' Professional Long Line Training Course is reviewed in the HeliOps cover feature, “Hanging with the Hookers: Long Line Boot Camp
Los Angeles Helicopters Professional Long Line Training Course
This HeliOps Magazine cover feature written by UK Editor Sarah Bowen, discusses the challenging yet satisfying skill of master Long Lining, the art of “vertical reference” and Los Angeles Helicopters' Professional Long-Line Training Course.
HeliOps Article - Learning Long Lining - Featuring LAH
Los Angeles Helicopters' Professional Long Line Training Course is reviewed in the HeliOps cover feature, “Hanging with the Hookers: Long Line Boot Camp
Los Angeles Helicopters Professional Long Line Training Course
This HeliOps Magazine cover feature written by UK Editor Sarah Bowen, discusses the challenging yet satisfying skill of master Long Lining, the art of “vertical reference” and Los Angeles Helicopters' Professional Long-Line Training Course.
HeliOps Article - Learning Long Lining - Featuring LAH
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Montana
R44 long lining
dammyneckhurts Hey Chopperjocky......I have about 800 hours longlining in the 44
Hey, maybe I could pick your brain a bit. I'm curious about what kind of work you've done and stuff. I'm gonna be diving head first into this 133 stuff pretty soon, and I'm cautiously excited about it.
My interpretation of part 133.1 suggests that the certification rules do not apply to training. Subpart C speaks of operating rules, but if you are training, you are not really operating. I believe it is similar to the rules regarding operating under IFR in a helicopter such as the R44 which is not IFR certified. You can do so under VMC as long as it is for training. I agree that it is potentially very hazardous, and would jump at an opportunity to train with an expert rather than teach myself, just as I would have jumped at the opportunity to get acquainted with a Schweizer with an experienced Schweizer pilot instead of teaching myself how to fly it and autorotate it. Fun times.
THANKYOU EVERYONE FOR RESPONSES...
Hey, maybe I could pick your brain a bit. I'm curious about what kind of work you've done and stuff. I'm gonna be diving head first into this 133 stuff pretty soon, and I'm cautiously excited about it.
My interpretation of part 133.1 suggests that the certification rules do not apply to training. Subpart C speaks of operating rules, but if you are training, you are not really operating. I believe it is similar to the rules regarding operating under IFR in a helicopter such as the R44 which is not IFR certified. You can do so under VMC as long as it is for training. I agree that it is potentially very hazardous, and would jump at an opportunity to train with an expert rather than teach myself, just as I would have jumped at the opportunity to get acquainted with a Schweizer with an experienced Schweizer pilot instead of teaching myself how to fly it and autorotate it. Fun times.
THANKYOU EVERYONE FOR RESPONSES...
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: London
Advanced Training??
Currently undertaking the JAA CPL afterwards was thinking of going over to either Canada or the States to undertake some sort of continuation training such as vertical reference. Any one any thoughts, good idea or waste of time and money? 
