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CHC Scotia redundancies
This forum has been very quiet about the recent report of CHC Scotia shedding 20% of the work force. I had understood that they were flat out trying to service their contracts - obviously not.
I had also assumed that the recent payrise indicated that the workforce was in a good bargaining position. Anyone in the know care to comment?
I had also assumed that the recent payrise indicated that the workforce was in a good bargaining position. Anyone in the know care to comment?
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The pay negotations are underway, the first offer being refused, as far as we know.
From what I have heard the 20% cut is not quite that straightforward. It won't be 20% of the staff being made redundant. I don't think any of the engineers need fear for their jobs though, from what has been said!
Time will tell on this one, but there are going to be some changes, hopefully for the better.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
From what I have heard the 20% cut is not quite that straightforward. It won't be 20% of the staff being made redundant. I don't think any of the engineers need fear for their jobs though, from what has been said!
Time will tell on this one, but there are going to be some changes, hopefully for the better.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
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Once again the engineers have to suffer job cuts so as the pilots can have outlandish pay awards,,when will this stop,,???
Only when the companies truely realise the value of good engineers and ground staff,,lets just hope they realise in time,,!!!
But i doubt it very much,,,,head's buried in the sand of doom,,,!!!!
Only when the companies truely realise the value of good engineers and ground staff,,lets just hope they realise in time,,!!!
But i doubt it very much,,,,head's buried in the sand of doom,,,!!!!
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Killabeez,
you obviously have information about the 'redundancies' at Scotia. As an employee of the company I am keen to know what is planned, so, could you please share your knowledge with us and post the details here?
many thanks in advance.
you obviously have information about the 'redundancies' at Scotia. As an employee of the company I am keen to know what is planned, so, could you please share your knowledge with us and post the details here?
many thanks in advance.
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Chopperman,
I don't think you have ANYTHING to worry about!!!!
Most of what is being said is just speculation at the moment. It is believed that it isn't going to be strictly 20% redundancies.
There is this big shift going on at the moment with Astec/HS and from what we can make out it is going to be a move around of staff, so that less of them are allocated to "CHC Scotia" and work under Astec/HS. It all sounds very complicated to me!
There will be (again from what is being said) a few redundancies, but these are said to be office bods.
Will post anymore news as I hear!
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
I don't think you have ANYTHING to worry about!!!!
Most of what is being said is just speculation at the moment. It is believed that it isn't going to be strictly 20% redundancies.
There is this big shift going on at the moment with Astec/HS and from what we can make out it is going to be a move around of staff, so that less of them are allocated to "CHC Scotia" and work under Astec/HS. It all sounds very complicated to me!
There will be (again from what is being said) a few redundancies, but these are said to be office bods.
Will post anymore news as I hear!
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
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This whole business sounds like the usual old Brintel apauling management practices of not being able to manage its workforce properly due to its own incompetence. When it can't control the finances properly it goes into a panic "fire everyone we can" then in a couple of months time they will be re-hiring because the company can't do the job its paid to do because there aren't enough staff. How many times have we seen this before!
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The only thing is, apparently CHC had a $/£22 million profit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Share prices are on the up.
What is going on that they aren't telling us???
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
Share prices are on the up.
What is going on that they aren't telling us???
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
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HeliEng - that's nothing! A good friend was just made redundant from an IT firm who shedded 10% of a particular division the same week they reported $2.2 BILLION profit in 9 months... There's no such things as a "job for life" these days...
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Killerbeez and all
CHC pilots are represented by BALPA and consists of pilots (100% pilots) and there lies our STRENGHT, we are all affected by the same issues.
The Engineers are in the same unoin as the ramp staff and issues that affect them are somtimes at odds with the rest of it's members and there lies it's WEAKNESS.
The aircraft will not fly without pilots.
They will not fly without Engineering input ( well only for a short time!!!!)
DOH !!!
CHC pilots are represented by BALPA and consists of pilots (100% pilots) and there lies our STRENGHT, we are all affected by the same issues.
The Engineers are in the same unoin as the ramp staff and issues that affect them are somtimes at odds with the rest of it's members and there lies it's WEAKNESS.
The aircraft will not fly without pilots.
They will not fly without Engineering input ( well only for a short time!!!!)
DOH !!!
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Thought for the day,,,***lets talk about redundancies for ground staff when pay negotiations are taking place***,,,,always a good PLOT by the managment,,takes your mind of the real objective,,
wink,,wink,,,,,
wink,,wink,,,,,
Last edited by killabeez; 17th April 2002 at 13:36.
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PS,,,,,,,,,can i join BALPA,,,,,,( I can talk real posh and take the micky out of engineers) caus our union is *****,,!!!!!!!!!,,
And why must pay negotiations always come down to voting on strike action,,,2.5%,,,plze give us some credit,,,,,,,,so embarrassing for us and the customer,,!!!!
Get real you bosses,,,,give us what we rightly deserve,,!!!!!!!:o
And why must pay negotiations always come down to voting on strike action,,,2.5%,,,plze give us some credit,,,,,,,,so embarrassing for us and the customer,,!!!!
Get real you bosses,,,,give us what we rightly deserve,,!!!!!!!:o
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So, killabeez, where in the engineering department would I find you? You are obviously a CHC Engineer, now the guessing game begins!!!
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
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From: Haggisland
I wish you lot would hurry up and get some sort of action underway, we (over the other side) are locked and loaded ready to make some serious dosh with the ADHOC flights we'll get.
Long may it all continue.
Long may it all continue.
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Well 400 hertz,,,,,,,,,,,,locked and loaded ey,,???(on the other side)
If you have lots of a/c standing around waiting for the opertunity of picking up ad/hocs I would be very worried about the lack of a/c utilization,,,
1>dont you think you should have work for these a/c,??
2>are'nt you just a tad worried that the a/c sit on the ground all day,??
Makes me think you have a large shortage of contracts,,,,
wonder why,,???????
If you have lots of a/c standing around waiting for the opertunity of picking up ad/hocs I would be very worried about the lack of a/c utilization,,,
1>dont you think you should have work for these a/c,??
2>are'nt you just a tad worried that the a/c sit on the ground all day,??
Makes me think you have a large shortage of contracts,,,,
wonder why,,???????
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CHC REDUNDANCIES
OF COURSE THE ENGINEERS AND GROUND GRUNTS ARE WORTH
A HELL OF A LOT MORE , HOWEVER SHOOTING FROM THE HIP WILL
DO NOTHING BUT AGGREVATE THE SITUATION. THE FIRST OFFER
IS NEVER THE BEST
NOBODY EVER GETS A GOOD DEAL ON THE FIRST PASS !!! THEREFORE YOU NEED TO REGROUP SIT BACK , THINK
AND PUT FORWARD THE REALISTIC CASE ..... WITHOUT
CHOKING ON YOUR OWN ROTORWASH AT SOME STAGE IN THE FUTURE...