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hum,,,,,,all just a big game to some ey,,,,
But at the end of the day,,we will win !!!
The just rewards for the job we do,,,
i,m sure the pilots will stand with us in wishing us a decent pay award,,,,,( how else would they feel secure flying in machines that we sevice)
Would be very nice if a bristow engineer would pass on to me the pay scales of their engineers, then maybe we could have some barganing power,,
But as far as being worried,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NO WAY<<!!!!!!!!!!!!
But at the end of the day,,we will win !!!
The just rewards for the job we do,,,
i,m sure the pilots will stand with us in wishing us a decent pay award,,,,,( how else would they feel secure flying in machines that we sevice)
Would be very nice if a bristow engineer would pass on to me the pay scales of their engineers, then maybe we could have some barganing power,,
But as far as being worried,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NO WAY<<!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Killabeez
What Bristows earn is not the issue, what you need are salary figures for engineers working for the airlines.
example unlicensed mechanic working for easytech.
basic £22,000 plus 25% bonus plus 15% permanent nights.
3% contribution to permanent pension. 33 days leave. 4 on 4 off shifts.
What Bristows earn is not the issue, what you need are salary figures for engineers working for the airlines.
example unlicensed mechanic working for easytech.
basic £22,000 plus 25% bonus plus 15% permanent nights.
3% contribution to permanent pension. 33 days leave. 4 on 4 off shifts.
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Cheers Rob,,,,,,,
Kinda makes licenced helicopter engineers wages look a bit sick,,,,,
Year 1>£22,000,,,,,,NO bonus of 25%..
Any more examples,,?????,,come on guys,,make me feel sick,!!!
Kinda makes licenced helicopter engineers wages look a bit sick,,,,,
Year 1>£22,000,,,,,,NO bonus of 25%..
Any more examples,,?????,,come on guys,,make me feel sick,!!!
Here is another.
Licensed engineer easytech
£32,500 plus 25% bonus plus 15% permi nights.
3% to private pension, 33 days leave, 4 on 4 off shifts
x1.3 night rate ot.
With ot most earned £50,000+ last year.
Licensed engineer easytech
£32,500 plus 25% bonus plus 15% permi nights.
3% to private pension, 33 days leave, 4 on 4 off shifts
x1.3 night rate ot.
With ot most earned £50,000+ last year.
Scotia redundancies ???
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O.K, this is what we know.
With all the shake up's at Scotia, outsourcing etc. The have been, if I remember correctly, 61 positions identified as no longer required. 31 new positions will be created when all the changes occur, leaving 30 which must go.
25 of these are pilots, and 5 are from the middle management pool.
That is all that we have been told.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
With all the shake up's at Scotia, outsourcing etc. The have been, if I remember correctly, 61 positions identified as no longer required. 31 new positions will be created when all the changes occur, leaving 30 which must go.
25 of these are pilots, and 5 are from the middle management pool.
That is all that we have been told.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
Looks like the old Brintel management running Scotia hasn't been able to change its spots since the old days when it could never plan more than a few days ahead. I am told that their training department has been busting a gut trying to get their pilot numbers up to their management's target and whenever it was achieved, the management said they now had too many.
Must be totally demoralising for the training captains and who would risk joining Brintel ( oops, I mean Scotia.....or do I ? ) when the chances are you will be sacked in a few months time. They fired pilots just after the Bond take-over then realised they had screwed up and started employing almost straight away. You would think they would learn but I doubt Brintel's competence to plan anything with any reliability.
Someone told me that Bond had never had to lay off pilots in 25 years. The ex Bond people in the company must see quite a difference. No point in giving anything extra for loyalty's sake nowadays. Just take your money and go home.
I presume the same is happening in engineering and other support functions. No wonder the oil companies have been desperately looking for a third operator for the North Sea. Any news on that front ??
Must be totally demoralising for the training captains and who would risk joining Brintel ( oops, I mean Scotia.....or do I ? ) when the chances are you will be sacked in a few months time. They fired pilots just after the Bond take-over then realised they had screwed up and started employing almost straight away. You would think they would learn but I doubt Brintel's competence to plan anything with any reliability.
Someone told me that Bond had never had to lay off pilots in 25 years. The ex Bond people in the company must see quite a difference. No point in giving anything extra for loyalty's sake nowadays. Just take your money and go home.
I presume the same is happening in engineering and other support functions. No wonder the oil companies have been desperately looking for a third operator for the North Sea. Any news on that front ??
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We have been told that there will be no redundancies in Engineering.
As far as the other support departments go, they are the 31 jobs going but new positions opening in their place. What that is all about I don't know.
The rumour of a return to the North Sea by Bond, has apparently been confirmed as NOT TRUE. I think it is too much of a step at the moment. Also what with them pulling out of the contract at Blackpool, it sounds very feasable.
Time will tell.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
As far as the other support departments go, they are the 31 jobs going but new positions opening in their place. What that is all about I don't know.
The rumour of a return to the North Sea by Bond, has apparently been confirmed as NOT TRUE. I think it is too much of a step at the moment. Also what with them pulling out of the contract at Blackpool, it sounds very feasable.
Time will tell.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
Bond were definitely going for contracts with the petroleum companies offshore...whether they have recently changed their minds or can't get in may have changed the situation somewhat.
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Thomas Coupling,
The rumours were here too that Bond were in negotiations with some of the North Sea customers.
We have now been told that they no longer have plans to return to Dyce.
This came out a few weeks ago now.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
The rumours were here too that Bond were in negotiations with some of the North Sea customers.
We have now been told that they no longer have plans to return to Dyce.
This came out a few weeks ago now.
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
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"Don't wear uniform", scotia tells crews!!
Am I the only one who can't believe that scotia are telling their professional crewmembres to wear civvies??? It's true though. What cost cutting measures are going to happen next?
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Yes it is true. They have said that pilots "will not wear uniform" while on the premises. Black bags have been provided in which uniforms will be placed to be given to the needy of the former Yugoslavia. So next time you are in Yugoslavia and you see street beggars wearing blue trousers, white shirt, tie and rank bars, you will know where the clothes came from (or else it is a sacked scotia pilot who can't afford the fare home from his/her holiday).
CHC seemed to me to be a company that put quite a lot into corporate identity but this latest move is one that takes away from the professional image of pilots and will do nothing to enhance the image of the company.
The next move will be to stop painting the helicopters in corporate colours. You can expect to see them coming out of major overall in the colour of the cheapest paint of the day.
What are your views about pilots and uniform? Should they be in casuals or uniform when at work?
CHC seemed to me to be a company that put quite a lot into corporate identity but this latest move is one that takes away from the professional image of pilots and will do nothing to enhance the image of the company.
The next move will be to stop painting the helicopters in corporate colours. You can expect to see them coming out of major overall in the colour of the cheapest paint of the day.
What are your views about pilots and uniform? Should they be in casuals or uniform when at work?
GO FOR IT SCOTIA !!
