Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

EC135

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Jul 2010, 15:25
  #661 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: upyours
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ILblog, More than likely to be ANR connectors that are fitted. These can be replaced with standard NATO, they should be just a push/pull fitting into the roof.
Fly_For_Fun is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:35
  #662 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: St Gallen
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hacking and improoving EC135

Hi

I have just started to fly EC135. As a computer hacker I am unable to accept the fact, tahat I have one wonderfull display in front of me, and this device is good just for IFR flying. It is fine to have airports, VORs, NDBs there on MFD, but this machine is flying 99% as a VFR.

I started to think, that I would like to hack lower Thales display in EC135 and put there some video input form some good VFR GPS, with terrain, airspaces, obstacles.

If there is anyone, who has desdription of some input connector and signals, I would appreciate any help.
ILblog is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2010, 12:31
  #663 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: UK
Age: 47
Posts: 1,595
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You can have what you are thinking of as a factory option. It's just here in the UK we are no allowed to use it.
Brilliant Stuff is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2010, 13:12
  #664 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 1 Dunghill Mansions, Putney
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

..........
I/C
Ian Corrigible is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2010, 16:36
  #665 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Here and there...
Age: 58
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
+1 I/C
Add to that the reaming you will get from your authorities and insurers and lawyers if you ever have an incident/accident and that bit of extra tampering comes to light.
If you don't like the display then find a type with a likeable display, IMO.
unstable load is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2010, 21:00
  #666 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 956
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Hmm, why invalidate the insurance, warranty and certificate on a $2million ship when you can just install a $10k MFD?
krypton_john is offline  
Old 2nd Sep 2010, 15:22
  #667 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Philadelphia PA
Age: 73
Posts: 1,835
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
ILblog:
While on the surface, this may appear as a reasonable idea- it's not. The underlying software is not like Windows or Mac OS, the certification implications are unbelievable and you'd better be familiar with DO-178.
Shawn Coyle is offline  
Old 2nd Sep 2010, 18:33
  #668 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 715
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts
Why don't you just do what everyone else does and bolt a Garmin 696 on the dash? Dart Helicopter Services has approved mounts for a lot of helicopters.

Like Shawn says, it is all tied up in tech standards and approvals, so don't expect anything panel-mounted to change soon, or inexpensively. Even the IFR argument for idiot instrumentation is weak, with far better means of presenting information and improving safety with new displays (look at the SV stuff on the new S76D panel). Patience, it will come.

Don't most EC135's come with the big Garmin 530 GPS units anyway? That should give you everything you need - maybe not quite as good as a 696, but pretty close.

Have you checked out the iPad panel in the iCub?
malabo is offline  
Old 2nd Sep 2010, 20:54
  #669 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 956
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Yikes! They really *are* using the iPad accelerometers for the EFIS attitude display?
krypton_john is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 09:44
  #670 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Land Below The Wind
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EC135 Factory Training

Could anybody let me know the cost of the EC135 Factory Gnd school & flight training? I need this info as I need to settle part of my training bond when I leave my present company?
VFRIFR is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 09:53
  #671 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Home
Posts: 807
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
A new machine comes with two pilot type ratings.
If you walk in the door it should be around 28000 Eurones.
GoodGrief is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 14:28
  #672 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Land Below The Wind
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks GoodGrief, but isn't that a hefty sum for such a small machine? Does anybody disagree with the sum?
VFRIFR is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 15:22
  #673 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,960
Received 24 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by VFRIFR
...but isn't that a hefty sum for such a small machine? ...
Not if Eurocopter are setting the prices...
Bravo73 is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 15:30
  #674 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Land of the Krauts
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From second hand knowledge Ive also heard a price just below 30k€
eivissa is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 15:41
  #675 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Land Below The Wind
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You've said it guys.
VFRIFR is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2010, 15:47
  #676 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 1 Dunghill Mansions, Putney
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If your training bond small print allows the training to be done in the States, you could save 40%. The local factory EC135/EC145, B429 and AW109 transition courses are all IRO US$25-30K.

I/C
Ian Corrigible is offline  
Old 20th Oct 2010, 12:58
  #677 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Earth
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what about write directly to Eurocopter Germany training accademy and ask them?
Reference - Eurocopter, an EADS company
aegir is offline  
Old 27th Oct 2010, 22:08
  #678 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Age: 73
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EC 135 Master Boxes

I have found the problem lies with the vent above the #2 Master Box. In forward flight the vent extracts air from the area, however in hover this does not occur. Because of rotor direction air and debris / water is blown up the vent. I found # Box with grass and sand inside it. Take the side panel off where the removeable circuit cards are and the top two cards will be contaminated. Fix for land operations is to fix a screen at the top of the vent (inside) plus if desired fix a screen above the vent holes on the Electrical Master Box. Water ops.... Haven't had to address that.
Hope this helps
Avbuff is offline  
Old 28th Oct 2010, 07:42
  #679 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Posts: 1,848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Avbuff,

This is an ongoing issue with the 135 that is yet to be recognised / accepted / adressed fully by ECD.

There is a GSE cover for this vent available now to stop the weather from going in one side and out the other when parked and for aircraft washing.

This is a good source of info.

There was a recent Customer Conference in Europe and a briefing of that is available electronically. Get your friendly Tech Rep to supply you with one.
RVDT is offline  
Old 28th Oct 2010, 09:29
  #680 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: UK
Age: 47
Posts: 1,595
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was told that the cover inside the engine bay on the floor of the engine bay in the top third of said engine which has a very big electrical cord going into the area of the pelican bay is the where water ingressed hence now there is lots of silicon going around it in order to stop that.

The water was able to run along the cable through to the inside and then to the box but with a pressure washer the plate itself wasn't standing up to it.

Than again who uses a pressure washer on a £4.000.000 aircraft, I wouldn't use it on my £1.000 car.
Brilliant Stuff is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.