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Old 25th Sep 2012, 21:20
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Hi guys,

In 6 months going to US to add a CPL-IR to my fixed wing license.

Selected Precision helicopter ( Oregon) and Bristow academy ( louisiana)

Aiming to fly SIC off-shore, since I already have about 1500 IR in planks.

Opinion about 2 schools?

Any suggestion?
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Old 25th Sep 2012, 23:00
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Night time is built mostly as a CFI instructing and doing instrument instruction at night.
Same problem in Europe, no single engine commercial ops at night.
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Old 26th Sep 2012, 09:14
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Thanks GoodGrief.
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Old 26th Sep 2012, 18:56
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Precision at Newberg Chehalem, if you must fly S300, is probably better value/money compared to most Schweizer operators. Another advantage is plenty of instrument approaches/airports nearby. Tim's nice guy, you'd probably fly with Tim most of time.

OTOH, Bristow Academy's premium prices are offset by the 'brand' on your CV. More limitations, higher pace (at least compared to Titusvile, not sure about Louisiana, though), etc.

Precision isn't that busy. It's located at privately owned public airport. It's quite short strip for airplane guys (only been there in heli couple times) but won't matter for S300. Though you'd come and take 'our' pattern in KMMV a lot for autos. Oh, they're also doing some contract training in S61R and recently some buzzing in EC135 at KMMV. I wish my noise signature in R22 as as nice as the 135.
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Old 1st Nov 2012, 20:43
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Possible scenario?

Hello,

This is my first post here. For some reason I still don`t know how to start my own thread...Therefore I am posting this here.

I am aware of the difficulties of becoming a pilot. I am not one of those who thinks he`ll be flying 777s in 5 years time. I am still deciding as to how I want to achieve my goal of becoming an airline pilot (in Canada) and I`m wondering if this scenario is a realistic one.

Get my pilots licenses (ppl and cpl) while attending Uni part-time. Then keep on building my hours any way I can (probably flight intructing) and continue going to university part-time. My main concern is that I won`t have the time to flight instruct full-time and go to school part-time.

The main advantage I see in this is I`ll be able to spend more years flying and building hours while at the same time getting a degree to become a more competitive candidate as opposed to going to University full time for 3 years ( in quebec) and barely be able to fly as I study.

I`m posting this to hopefully get some insight and make a decision. Do you guys think my plan is realistic ?

Sorry for making this so long and posting it here in this unrealated thread.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 19:41
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Training in South Florida?

Hello.

Does anyone know where can I get training as a helicopter pilot in South Florida?
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 16:59
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Basic Heli Trg US

Anybody got any recommendations/avoids for PPL(H) schools in the US?
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 17:19
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Cheap n' cheerful: Helicopter pilot license in the USA - Ocean Helicopters

Top of the line: Helicopter Flight Training - Bristow Academy Inc
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 16:33
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HeliStudent:

You have a lot to learn about this industry my friend before you make blanket statements like yours.
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 17:09
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I very willing to learn and all ears!
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 21:34
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Flight School

Have you looked @ SRT Helicopters in Ca.

They offer training in S300C's, and also can train you in an R44 if you choose. They are an M1 Visa approved school, and to date have a 100% first time pass rate.

They also offer fixed wing training, and conduct most of their Instrument training at night, so you are also building valuable night and night cross country.

If you do their professional pilot program, they suggest the following course of training.

PPl Helicopter
PPL Fixed Wing Add On
IFR Airplane (you will usually get 10 to 20 hours of actual IFR)
IFR Helicopter Add On
Mountain Course
Com Helicopter
CFI
CFII

The avg cost for all of that is usually 55 to 60K US

They have a FLY IT Simulator which also helps keep some of the costs down.

They do alot of advanced mission training such as SAR as well.

Lots of pictures and info on their facebook page.
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 08:37
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They are an M1 Visa approved school, and to date have a 100% first time pass rate.
Hmmm...

The avg cost for all of that is usually 55 to 60K US
Double hmmmmm!

Seem to good to be true... Are you a recruiter?
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 13:21
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SRT

I would stay clear of SRT in Bakersfield, CA.

Do not let their website deceive you, it does look pretty fancy with all the pictures and catchy lines but you will be dragging yourself to complete your training in a timely pace.
Stopped their briefly a few years ago for some training and was majorly disappointed: they only had one S300 serviceable then but not in good shape, in fact I didn't see it fly at at all and one 1973 C172 totally overpriced. In all fairness the facilities are not bad at all, they had decent classrooms for ground instruction right on the airfield (KBFL). You will most likely get a young CFI with little experience up to your Commercial, nothing unusual in that except for the fact that they advertise for highly skilled, specialized and experienced instructors with SAR / Law Enforcement / Military / HEMS experience. Those guys are indeed related to the company but you won't have them during basic training.
They always seem to be tight on cash so you will be pressured to make deposits and "pay as you fly" will be frowned upon.
Last but not least, Bakersfield is the ultimate armpit, it sits at the bottom of the San Joaquin valley and frequently suffers from the Los Angeles ' smog settling in the valley, reducing horizontal visibility quite drastically at times, once again slowing down your training.

How they could possibly achieve certification for M1 visa sponsoring is a mystery to me.

I agree with DauphinDude: SFDOC is biased.

There are numerous fantastic flight schools across the States and it's easy to find out which ones are authorized to conduct training for non US cititizens / residents.
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 14:16
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Originally Posted by beebo View Post
Coming from Australia where night flying isn't factored into your license... building this time to qualify for a Part 135 operation in the US will be my biggest hurdle.
I had the same issue. Whilst I had long held an Australian ATPL, I couldn't qualify for an FAA ATP Rotorcraft check-ride until I had 100 hours night experience. Fortunately for me this was pretty easy to get as we had a high intensity night offshore requirement. Having this night experience was most helpful because my FAA ATP check-ride was done at night....
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 19:30
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Training

I am curious, what training did you do that you were disapointed in and when were you there?

Currently (2) 300c's, a 172, Jet Ranger, and they have a leaseback agreement for an R44.

They are approved for the M1, they have had it for over 5 years.

As to the valley, I spend alot of my time on the Kern River and the nearby mountains, not to mention the cost of living is cheap and I can be in Los Angeles in a little over an hour.

As to Dauphin, yes, I am biased, but I can also back up what I post.
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 19:35
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Costs

If you look at how the recommended training is structured, and the fact that they also use an FAA approved simulator, keeping the cost in the
55 - 60 k range is actually quite easy.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 00:58
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Hour Building

I was hoping to go to the states to hour build on a r44 on jaa can anyone advise a good school
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 03:37
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Bristow Academy in Titusville Florida have the aircraft and approved EASA R44 Fi(s) so getting an hour building module set up won't be an issue.
Have fun in the sun!!

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Old 17th Sep 2013, 04:58
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Try Rotor Aviation in Long Beach, California. Try and do the Robinson safety course at the same time.

HTC
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 11:33
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Time building US

I need to get my hours up and therefore I want to do some time building in the states in Nov/Dec in an R22 for 2 weeks or so. Given the time of year, it is probably best to go to CA or FL to avoid crappy weather interfering with flying.






Any recommendations for a good place to do that ? I was already looking around in the web, but it's always good to get a second opinion. And helicopter academy aka boatpix is already out of the question due to a previous bad experience with them.
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