Rotorway Corner
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From: wales
Found on ebay ?
Hi Found this on ebay and whould like comments on if this might be the way to go for hour building . Dont panick i am quite capable of the job in hand and whould dot the i,s and cross the t,s properly and leaglely . But how dose the 12 year rule aply to the rotorway .
Thanks Bauldrik
Rotorway Exec 90 Helicopter - Spares/Rebuild Project Item number: 5589932138 price: £5,000.00
Item location: SOUTH WEST
United Kingdom
Rotorway Exec 90 1987.
152 Engine (Working) 8Hrs on Engine.
This craft was bought in the States for $17,000 as spares for another Rotorway. However I have sold the Rotorway and am now left with this spare chopper.
This is what you are getting: Main Frame, Boom complete with Rotor assembly (with 2000 3" conversion) and Blades. Engine (working order), all the gear controls and cables, foot controls, collector, petrol tanks, radiator and oil cooler, main rotor blades in excellent condition, rotor shaft all assembled, the fibreglass bodywork for the chopper with glass (doors missing), couple of gauges. Various other parts, quite a lot really. Engine is in place with Rotor Shaft and the Boom is attached to it.
I guess what you will need to complete her is: a complete wiring loom, 5 gauges, 2 fuel pumps, belts, shims on the rotorhead (like washers), a few other bits and bobs.
You really need to be budgeting £5K-£6K and a lot of love and dedication to get her back together. But what an excellent project to build in your garage over the next year or two.
Why build a kit car when you can be building a real Helicopter?She also comes with Registration document and plans. My loss is your gain! You just wont find another project as exciting to own and build as this. Guaranteed.
Payment is easy, £500 deposit via PayPal within 24hrs. The rest by bank transfer within 10days. Collect and remove the chopper within 14 days of payment or immediatly after.
Viewing highly recommended. *NO Haggling!* This is as cheap as it gets. Just call to arrange a viewing. Don’t call to ask silly questions, this is not for “dreamers”, this helicopter is the real deal.
UK Bidders only. No Scams, No Problems
Thanks Bauldrik
Rotorway Exec 90 Helicopter - Spares/Rebuild Project Item number: 5589932138 price: £5,000.00
Item location: SOUTH WEST
United Kingdom
Rotorway Exec 90 1987.
152 Engine (Working) 8Hrs on Engine.
This craft was bought in the States for $17,000 as spares for another Rotorway. However I have sold the Rotorway and am now left with this spare chopper.
This is what you are getting: Main Frame, Boom complete with Rotor assembly (with 2000 3" conversion) and Blades. Engine (working order), all the gear controls and cables, foot controls, collector, petrol tanks, radiator and oil cooler, main rotor blades in excellent condition, rotor shaft all assembled, the fibreglass bodywork for the chopper with glass (doors missing), couple of gauges. Various other parts, quite a lot really. Engine is in place with Rotor Shaft and the Boom is attached to it.
I guess what you will need to complete her is: a complete wiring loom, 5 gauges, 2 fuel pumps, belts, shims on the rotorhead (like washers), a few other bits and bobs.
You really need to be budgeting £5K-£6K and a lot of love and dedication to get her back together. But what an excellent project to build in your garage over the next year or two.
Why build a kit car when you can be building a real Helicopter?She also comes with Registration document and plans. My loss is your gain! You just wont find another project as exciting to own and build as this. Guaranteed.
Payment is easy, £500 deposit via PayPal within 24hrs. The rest by bank transfer within 10days. Collect and remove the chopper within 14 days of payment or immediatly after.
Viewing highly recommended. *NO Haggling!* This is as cheap as it gets. Just call to arrange a viewing. Don’t call to ask silly questions, this is not for “dreamers”, this helicopter is the real deal.
UK Bidders only. No Scams, No Problems
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From: Alderney or Lancashire UK
Whats left and is it any good?? A bottomless pit of money and risk in my humble opinion. Will Rotorway supply the missing bits? Check first.
Theres nowt wrong with Rotorways done right but buy this at your peril or take every single fastener out and do it to your own satisfaction. I considered a Rotorway but went for an old, fully certified aircraft (Enstrom) 3 years ago and haven't regretted it one bit. As it happened I needed three seats anyway.
Theres nowt wrong with Rotorways done right but buy this at your peril or take every single fastener out and do it to your own satisfaction. I considered a Rotorway but went for an old, fully certified aircraft (Enstrom) 3 years ago and haven't regretted it one bit. As it happened I needed three seats anyway.
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From: chester uk
Rotorway Exec good buy or bad buy?
I have been offered a Rotorway Exec for £30,000.
I have been told it has a current UK permit to fly and has only done 25 hours.
I must say i have not seen it yet, going to look tomorrow.
I am tempted with the price if there were another two or three people to form a shared ownership group.
This leads me to the questions to pose.
1, Are they any good,? I remember reading an article about them and that didn't slag them off much at all. Has anyone had much experience with them?
2, Is there anything I should be looking for when I go to see it?
3, Has anyone got any ideas of costings per hour? I am just thinking of using it for cheap hourbuilding.Wondering if it would be worth it.
4, Is there anyone else who would be interested in joint ownership? Machine to be based in the North West of England.
Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Chester.
I have been told it has a current UK permit to fly and has only done 25 hours.
I must say i have not seen it yet, going to look tomorrow.
I am tempted with the price if there were another two or three people to form a shared ownership group.
This leads me to the questions to pose.
1, Are they any good,? I remember reading an article about them and that didn't slag them off much at all. Has anyone had much experience with them?
2, Is there anything I should be looking for when I go to see it?
3, Has anyone got any ideas of costings per hour? I am just thinking of using it for cheap hourbuilding.Wondering if it would be worth it.
4, Is there anyone else who would be interested in joint ownership? Machine to be based in the North West of England.
Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Chester.
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From: UK
There's no 12 year rule I'm aware of with the Rotorway.
Built well, they're a great helicopter. And they give you much more time to drop the lever in an emergency than a 22. But...
You ARE more likely to have an emergency in a Rotorway than the super-reliable Robinson or other production helicopter.
2 up they are much less forgiving than a 22, you need more skill to fly one safely than a Robinson. In my opinion, with max payload they could do with a bit more power.
I'd recommend you speak to the experts first. For example, at the moment its difficult to get insurance but this is being sorted. Ivan Bedford at Skegness probably knows more about Rotorways than anyone else in the country:
http://www.icbhelicopters.co.uk/
Play safe with the seller of this Rotorway (look at his ebay rating and feedback).
Bottomline:
- If you are a skilled Rotorway pilot
- Are obsessed with checking every detail in pre-flights
- Minimise out-of-wind operations
- Expect more servicing time than a Robinson
- Fly as much below MTOW as possible (max weight per seat is 15 stone, but 2 @ 12 stone is much better)
If you're happy with the above then a Rotorway could be for you.
The Rotorway once built has running costs of around 70 pounds an hour (incl. fuel and ins).
That takes some beating.
All the best,
Steve
Built well, they're a great helicopter. And they give you much more time to drop the lever in an emergency than a 22. But...
You ARE more likely to have an emergency in a Rotorway than the super-reliable Robinson or other production helicopter.
2 up they are much less forgiving than a 22, you need more skill to fly one safely than a Robinson. In my opinion, with max payload they could do with a bit more power.
I'd recommend you speak to the experts first. For example, at the moment its difficult to get insurance but this is being sorted. Ivan Bedford at Skegness probably knows more about Rotorways than anyone else in the country:
http://www.icbhelicopters.co.uk/
Play safe with the seller of this Rotorway (look at his ebay rating and feedback).
Bottomline:
- If you are a skilled Rotorway pilot
- Are obsessed with checking every detail in pre-flights
- Minimise out-of-wind operations
- Expect more servicing time than a Robinson
- Fly as much below MTOW as possible (max weight per seat is 15 stone, but 2 @ 12 stone is much better)
If you're happy with the above then a Rotorway could be for you.
The Rotorway once built has running costs of around 70 pounds an hour (incl. fuel and ins).
That takes some beating.
All the best,
Steve
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From: UK
Now a Turbine rotorway
A UK agent has been appointed
so we smay see one soon
http://www.aviotecnica.it/
http://www.aviotecnica.it/pr02.htm
so we smay see one soon
http://www.aviotecnica.it/
http://www.aviotecnica.it/pr02.htm
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From: q.l.d
rotorway /giveitaway
r22helipilot, a man who has had a little or in my book too much to do with rotorways is graeme gillies, he has overseen and taken part of the importing the kit and rebuilding of the exc 90 to its first flight by himself. He has documented it with photos ....
if your thinking of saving money or if it is all you can afford,,,,,ask yourself how much do you value your life?
Look at a comercial machine at least you can have a proven one ,dont take it personally but raise your standard of living , look at it .......realize at most of the rotorway stands at airshows, they arrive on the back of and leave on the back of trucks........
what heli experience do you have ,because everyone i know or havent met who flies for a living would say RUN FOREST RUN at the sight or thought of 1.
So come on all you rotorway crazy fans lets hear it .
Good luck mate
if your thinking of saving money or if it is all you can afford,,,,,ask yourself how much do you value your life?
Look at a comercial machine at least you can have a proven one ,dont take it personally but raise your standard of living , look at it .......realize at most of the rotorway stands at airshows, they arrive on the back of and leave on the back of trucks........
what heli experience do you have ,because everyone i know or havent met who flies for a living would say RUN FOREST RUN at the sight or thought of 1.
So come on all you rotorway crazy fans lets hear it .
Good luck mate
Last edited by 540DEGREE TorqueTurn; 14th December 2006 at 22:23. Reason: spelling
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From: UK
R22Helipilot,
Get your teeth into this thread:
Rotorway Corner
But I've got a feeling that your post is going to end up there anyway.
And, oh, a search will often save you from asking questions that have already been asked before.
HTH,
B73
Get your teeth into this thread:
Rotorway Corner
But I've got a feeling that your post is going to end up there anyway.
And, oh, a search will often save you from asking questions that have already been asked before.
HTH,
B73
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Central London
It has not been the best of years. After a lot of fun over a decade a fire melted the fun in minutes.
We plan to be airborne with a new Rotorway project in April
http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/publicati...ve__g_brgx.cfm
Last edited by Phil Space; 22nd December 2006 at 11:59. Reason: extra info
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From: ON A HILL
A question for Rotorway owners
From memory i seemto recall that the tail rotor on the Rotorway does not have a delta 3 hinge arrangement. Can someone confirm if this is the case. If it is just a 90 digree hinge are the arms on the blades offset in any way? Thanks Bug
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From: In the air with luck
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From: North of the border
Rotorway 162F what's the story ?
So, what's the story with the Rotorway 162F ? The look better than an R22, have similar performance figures, but owners seem to sell them on with only a few hours done.
Do they all frighten themselves ?
I know they can't be used for training but there must be an underlying problem.
Can anyone explain for me ?
Do they all frighten themselves ?
I know they can't be used for training but there must be an underlying problem.
Can anyone explain for me ?
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From: North of the border
rotorway helicopters
I have now discovered that Rotorway have a new helicopter the A600 Talon.
This has a dual fadec system, a shaft drive tail rotor drive and a cogged belt main rotor drive that appears to address the weaknesses that other people have highlighted.
It is also built to certified a/c standards which should mean that the possibility of FTO's using the machine might someday be possible.
RotorWay International - Premiere Kit Helicopters
This has a dual fadec system, a shaft drive tail rotor drive and a cogged belt main rotor drive that appears to address the weaknesses that other people have highlighted.
It is also built to certified a/c standards which should mean that the possibility of FTO's using the machine might someday be possible.
RotorWay International - Premiere Kit Helicopters
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From: UK
gyrotyro,
Sorry to correct you, but the new Rotorway Talon isn't built to certified a/c standards.
While the new owners have stated they intend to pursue full certification, this would be impossible to US or UK standards without starting almost from scratch.
(Still, an R22 wouldn't pass the standards now, it'd need a rotor re-design to give a 2-3 second dwell time instead of the deathly 1 second it currently has)
All that's not to say the Rotorway isn't a great kit helicopter, it's possibly the best.
Go for a fly in one, and you could be hooked.
Best,
Steve
Sorry to correct you, but the new Rotorway Talon isn't built to certified a/c standards.
While the new owners have stated they intend to pursue full certification, this would be impossible to US or UK standards without starting almost from scratch.
(Still, an R22 wouldn't pass the standards now, it'd need a rotor re-design to give a 2-3 second dwell time instead of the deathly 1 second it currently has)
All that's not to say the Rotorway isn't a great kit helicopter, it's possibly the best.
Go for a fly in one, and you could be hooked.
Best,
Steve