North Sea Jigsaw
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Nope I didn't apply - why should I be careful how I answer
. The advert said they were head-hunting so I just waited for the call
Afterall I am suitably qualified:- 332 on license, 3 tours of doing SAR including Lossiemouth, know what it is like living offshore but heh ho no call - perhaps I am too old 
Even if they had called I wouldn't have accepted the present terms as they would have meant I would have lost on pay, leave and pension - a no brainer really
HF
Nope I didn't apply - why should I be careful how I answer
. The advert said they were head-hunting so I just waited for the call Afterall I am suitably qualified:- 332 on license, 3 tours of doing SAR including Lossiemouth, know what it is like living offshore but heh ho no call - perhaps I am too old Even if they had called I wouldn't have accepted the present terms as they would have meant I would have lost on pay, leave and pension - a no brainer really HF
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Allowance for Offshore Jigsaw
A little bird tells me that the Bristow pilots who did the trials for Jigsaw were promised that BP would make sure they received £120 per night, more if they had to share cabins! Perhaps some 'creative' accounting going on?
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Jigsaw pilot selection process
I heard that the Bond HR department used the Pprune website to help identify and weed out all whinging pilots in the industry during their selection process. They were obviously spot on with that technique !
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Hmmm, no my name is not Tristan although that is a pretty name!
Lets see, some interesting comments coming out here.....
£100 a day offshore allowance instead of £50? (Dont BP personnel get £100?)
6 weeks leave a year instead of 2, perhaps a dedicated SAR 2 on 2 off 2 on 3 off cycle?
flying into and crew changing out of Aberdeen instead of missing your expensive holiday?
Some fantastic ideas to attract the right calibre of pilot in the current market. How about a SAR allowance - sort of danger pay to acknowledge the differnt role and skills in the dangerous environment. Why not throw in a flight allowance to sweeten the deal to an airport of your choice.
Well that would certainly attract me im not sure about you guys. That should guarantee the retention of pilots and have more waiting to sign up to the expansion of the project after the initial phase?
Oh well all pie in the sky i suppose.........or is it?
Lets see, some interesting comments coming out here.....
£100 a day offshore allowance instead of £50? (Dont BP personnel get £100?)
6 weeks leave a year instead of 2, perhaps a dedicated SAR 2 on 2 off 2 on 3 off cycle?
flying into and crew changing out of Aberdeen instead of missing your expensive holiday?
Some fantastic ideas to attract the right calibre of pilot in the current market. How about a SAR allowance - sort of danger pay to acknowledge the differnt role and skills in the dangerous environment. Why not throw in a flight allowance to sweeten the deal to an airport of your choice.
Well that would certainly attract me im not sure about you guys. That should guarantee the retention of pilots and have more waiting to sign up to the expansion of the project after the initial phase?
Oh well all pie in the sky i suppose.........or is it?
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Bond uses a selection technique based on compliance. This means that a pilot complies with what he is told to do and doesn't ask questions. If you are a Bond pilot you know better than most how it works - overtime payment what's that???
Bond uses a selection technique based on compliance. This means that a pilot complies with what he is told to do and doesn't ask questions. If you are a Bond pilot you know better than most how it works - overtime payment what's that???
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Jigsaw
"Why not throw in a flight allowance to sweeten the deal to an airport of your choice" That must be Aberdeen then cos thats where you make em all Live
"Oh well all pie in the sky i suppose.........or is it?" Yep it sure is
"Why not throw in a flight allowance to sweeten the deal to an airport of your choice" That must be Aberdeen then cos thats where you make em all Live
"Oh well all pie in the sky i suppose.........or is it?" Yep it sure is
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Its going just fine thanks for asking JIGSPY. The aircraft are in theatre and have added to the safey of the North Sea Oil industry as recently demonstrated by assisting SHELL to evacuate it's "TERN A" platform when it suffered a fire. The Miller aircraft provided cover to the crew change flights in the recent 60 knot storms that saw many standby vessels unable to do so. This coupled with a generous pay award which has brought the package into line with what many people on this forum would want to do the job means that the project will go from strength to strength as it attracts more oil companies into the project.
Keep an eye on Flight international boys!
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Jigsaw,
Firstly, any info on the Miller aircraft being grounded due weather earlier this month? Also, the unservicability (a hydraulics problem?) which caused it to return to Aberdeen.
Secondly, you say it provided cover during the 60kt storms, excellent, however, if you started a Puma in 60kts on an offshore deck your a braver person than me. Did you shut it down in 60kts, or take it to the beach?
Finally, are you Lord Melchet using a pseudonym? Cause you certainly sound like him.
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Firstly, any info on the Miller aircraft being grounded due weather earlier this month? Also, the unservicability (a hydraulics problem?) which caused it to return to Aberdeen.
Secondly, you say it provided cover during the 60kt storms, excellent, however, if you started a Puma in 60kts on an offshore deck your a braver person than me. Did you shut it down in 60kts, or take it to the beach?
Finally, are you Lord Melchet using a pseudonym? Cause you certainly sound like him.
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Interesting the stuff....
The decks on the North Sea close at 60kts so how much cover were you providing???
The L2 is certified to start in winds up to 55kts so you are potentially operating outside the aircraft limits. Also that limit is 30 deg either side of the nose. What happens when the wind changes direction whilst you are on deck? Any change in direction of more than 30 deg makes the starting limit 30kts. So how do you turn the aircraft on the helideck in those situations and how long does it take?
I heard about the recent mutiny at Bond which caused the pay 'awards', well done guys!! About time you got paid what you were worth.
Still two weeks on the Miller, 14 hour days, getting up to untie and move the aircraft for crew change flights (in your 60kt winds), living in small cramped accomodation and having to attend safety drills and the like in your 10 hour rest period makes it all worthwhile.
Enjoy,
RTS
Interesting the stuff....
The decks on the North Sea close at 60kts so how much cover were you providing???
The L2 is certified to start in winds up to 55kts so you are potentially operating outside the aircraft limits. Also that limit is 30 deg either side of the nose. What happens when the wind changes direction whilst you are on deck? Any change in direction of more than 30 deg makes the starting limit 30kts. So how do you turn the aircraft on the helideck in those situations and how long does it take?
I heard about the recent mutiny at Bond which caused the pay 'awards', well done guys!! About time you got paid what you were worth.
Still two weeks on the Miller, 14 hour days, getting up to untie and move the aircraft for crew change flights (in your 60kt winds), living in small cramped accomodation and having to attend safety drills and the like in your 10 hour rest period makes it all worthwhile.
Enjoy,
RTS
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Spin spin and more spin. I suppose you will confirm that the Miller a/c had to go ashore at least twice in the past 2 weeks because of the not very high winds. Both a/c ending up in Sumburgh which messed up our crew change a little!!!
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Spin spin and more spin. I suppose you will confirm that the Miller a/c had to go ashore at least twice in the past 2 weeks because of the not very high winds. Both a/c ending up in Sumburgh which messed up our crew change a little!!!
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A little bird tells me that a black and yellow chopper spent 2 hrs going up and down the north sea looking for a rig to take him during those high winds
and as for :-
"The aircraft are in theatre and have added to the safey of the North Sea Oil industry as recently demonstrated by assisting SHELL to evacuate it's "TERN A" platform when it suffered a fire"
Notice you never mentioned the RAF or the Coastguard Helo's who also took part in the incident it must have slipped your mind
and as for :-
"The aircraft are in theatre and have added to the safey of the North Sea Oil industry as recently demonstrated by assisting SHELL to evacuate it's "TERN A" platform when it suffered a fire"
Notice you never mentioned the RAF or the Coastguard Helo's who also took part in the incident it must have slipped your mind
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I think you will find that the Tern down manning went very smoothly and the Jigsaw aircraft integrated with the other assets just like any other SAR helo. I'm sure if I was sitting on a rig that could potentially catch fire, I would be grateful for all the helos I could find. Please also bear in mind that this was a Shell rig and BP were happy to use their helo to help - a very good sign I would say about potential future integration.
Why are you all so negative about the whole project? If there is any potential that this project can expand this can olny be a good thing for the industry. You may not want the job, but there are plenty that do, particularly now the pay is approaching an almost acceptable level for the job.
As for aircraft limits, if you knew anything, you would know that the aircraft actually deployed to Aberdeen where it maintained standby in winds of less than 55 kts for the few crew change flights that were able to continue. I don't have a part in either company before you ask so this is not spin, just honest opinion with the correct facts!
Why are you all so negative about the whole project? If there is any potential that this project can expand this can olny be a good thing for the industry. You may not want the job, but there are plenty that do, particularly now the pay is approaching an almost acceptable level for the job.
As for aircraft limits, if you knew anything, you would know that the aircraft actually deployed to Aberdeen where it maintained standby in winds of less than 55 kts for the few crew change flights that were able to continue. I don't have a part in either company before you ask so this is not spin, just honest opinion with the correct facts!
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Firstly, I'm not having a go at Freeride, I'd just like to pose a question to those in the know. (If Jigsaws' around, please don't give me the standard Bond 
rhetoric).
Quite right, I couldn't agree more, anything that brings jobs to the industry is good news, my concern is that the project is not totally viable. So...
Very sensible. As we all know, (well, all us Puma drivers at least), Pumas don't fare well offshore in high winds when they are shutdown. However, can someone tell me what standby cover the Miller has when the aircraft is deployed to Aberdeen? Does one of the Brae standby vessels cover for it by any chance?
Chopperman.
rhetoric).
If there is any potential that this project can expand this can olny be a good thing for the industry.
As for aircraft limits, if you knew anything, you would know that the aircraft actually deployed to Aberdeen where it maintained standby in winds of less than 55 kts for the few crew change flights that were able to continue.
Chopperman.
Well said Freeride, couldn't agree more!
chopperman:
Maybe you don't know enough to make that judgement? Maybe you should let other people worry over viability? Someone who is actually involved in the project and knows the facts e.g BP, Bond, CAA, HSE, UKOOA and the workers Unions? Just a thought ....
By the way I was under the impression the project was called Jigsaw for a reason, maybe you should ask someone to explain the concept .... ?
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chopperman:
Quite right, I couldn't agree more, anything that brings jobs to the industry is good news, my concern is that the project is not totally viable. So...
By the way I was under the impression the project was called Jigsaw for a reason, maybe you should ask someone to explain the concept .... ?
Woolf