Becoming an Instructor & related FI questions
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Ah! I see! When you said "commercial" you meant teach CPL? I just thought you meant "teach flying for a living"-type commercial! Alles klar!
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Can Plank time contribute to the UK's 250 hrs FI(H) pre-requisite?
I cant find it in LASORS.
Anyone!, can you count any fixed-wing time toward the 250 hours pre-requisite before you can start the training for FI(H).
I am commercially rated on both planks and helicopter but have only 100hrs rotary but a thousand on planks.
OOW
Anyone!, can you count any fixed-wing time toward the 250 hours pre-requisite before you can start the training for FI(H).
I am commercially rated on both planks and helicopter but have only 100hrs rotary but a thousand on planks.
OOW
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Becoming an Instructor FI(H)
I am interested where I can make Instructor Rating (H) in Europe
(I prefer Austria, Germany, CZ, Slovakia, Hungary, Switzerland or close
to that countries.) according to JAR FCL2 and on R22.
So I need addresses for such FTOs.
Regards.
(I prefer Austria, Germany, CZ, Slovakia, Hungary, Switzerland or close
to that countries.) according to JAR FCL2 and on R22.
So I need addresses for such FTOs.
Regards.
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Dear Davy07
I read almost all in thread http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=145183
but I didn't find the answer to my question.
There are almost all about FTOs in UK.
I read almost all in thread http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=145183
but I didn't find the answer to my question.
There are almost all about FTOs in UK.
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Training advice
Hello all, I am a newly qualified JAA CPL (H) with around 260 hours total of which 45 have been flown in the Uk and the rest in the states. I am looking to gain experience through the instructor route and am after some advice from anyone that has been down this road or is currently in a similar position. I have had a few bad experiences during my training in the motherland and have found that some people in the industry over here have a very negative attitude towards FAA training which has seriously affected my confidence. I myself loved my time in the states, having felt encouraged and part of a family of like minded people with very clear objectives that they were working towards. The competition element of training with a number of people with similar hours was also a great benefit to me. So finally I come to the point. Please can people give me feedback on their instructor courses / opinions of training organisations in the UK and the most effective way of flying the remaining hours I need to start the Instructor course. I understand if anyone does not want their views aired on the forum and would be happy to receive anonymous e-mails to helibob at tiscali. Thanks in anticipation. helibob
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I have found instructing to be a very valuable string to have on the bow. The course itself (depending on where/who you do it with) will force you to learn an awful lot about flying. I would go as far to say it is the second hardest flying course you can do behind a JAA Instrument Rating. Teaching itself can be very rewarding. Like anything, there are good days and bad, though generally it is good fun and helps pay the bills. The other thing to consider is that you are a lot more employable as an instructor/commercial pilot than just a CPL. If you can land a job within a decent outfit, it should open a few doors for you i.e. gaining commercial experience and type ratings depending on what type of outfit you go to. Looking back, I would still choose to become an instructor all over again. In terms of where to do the course - you need not look any further than Mike Green at Helicopter Services High Wycombe. The most experienced guy to do it with. Hope this helps.
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Helibob,
I think a lot of the negative attitude towards FAA is when someone goes to the states, does a PPL(H) in 45hours in blue sky and sunshine then comes back over here and expects to rack up at a school and SFH a machine straight off.
With your hours you should have a lot less of an issue on that front.
FI Course wise if you're still based in Yorkshire then I believe Geoff Day does courses out of Sandtoft. Whilst I did my CPL(H) course with him, I did not do my FI training with him but would have preferred to if it had been an option at the time.
If you want contact details then just message me.
MB
I think a lot of the negative attitude towards FAA is when someone goes to the states, does a PPL(H) in 45hours in blue sky and sunshine then comes back over here and expects to rack up at a school and SFH a machine straight off.
With your hours you should have a lot less of an issue on that front.
FI Course wise if you're still based in Yorkshire then I believe Geoff Day does courses out of Sandtoft. Whilst I did my CPL(H) course with him, I did not do my FI training with him but would have preferred to if it had been an option at the time.
If you want contact details then just message me.
MB
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FI(H) Training
Hello,
as my colleague and I would like to go for the Flight Instructor rating, and as in the 'lower countries', there is no FTO available for this kind of training, we're wundering if anyone can help us out here.
We're looking for a FTO who offers the training in English, on the Robinson R22, preferably during november/december of this year. The country is not really an issue.
PIC time 1600/2100 hrs.
Thanks.
as my colleague and I would like to go for the Flight Instructor rating, and as in the 'lower countries', there is no FTO available for this kind of training, we're wundering if anyone can help us out here.
We're looking for a FTO who offers the training in English, on the Robinson R22, preferably during november/december of this year. The country is not really an issue.
PIC time 1600/2100 hrs.
Thanks.
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JAA FI additional types
Forgive me if this has already been answered:
LASORS H1.10 says that not less than 15 hours are to be completed on a specific type within the previous 12 months for it to be included in the FI rating.
Where does the 12 month requirement come from?
FCL 2.310A6 doesn't mention 12 months , and I can't find it in Schedule 8.
So is it 15 hours total experience, of 15 hours in the past 12 months?
LASORS H1.10 says that not less than 15 hours are to be completed on a specific type within the previous 12 months for it to be included in the FI rating.
Where does the 12 month requirement come from?
FCL 2.310A6 doesn't mention 12 months , and I can't find it in Schedule 8.
So is it 15 hours total experience, of 15 hours in the past 12 months?
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As I see it... types are not "included" in an FI rating. In your licence it just says "FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR". And all your type ratings are listed in the usual place.
I think the "15 hour" rule is a CAA made-up rule. And I am sure if you do your type rating test/renewal with a "Flight Instructor Examiner" (FIE) you are exempt from the "15 hour" rule.
But you better ask Fred Cross.
This is why LASORS is useless. It's not UK law, its a 'summary' of the CAA's intepretation of JAR FCL and the ANO.
Come to that, even JAR is not law. In fact, the JAA doesn't exist anymore. Everything is now governed by EASA.
Confused?
And we wonder where all the money goes
I think the "15 hour" rule is a CAA made-up rule. And I am sure if you do your type rating test/renewal with a "Flight Instructor Examiner" (FIE) you are exempt from the "15 hour" rule.
But you better ask Fred Cross.
This is why LASORS is useless. It's not UK law, its a 'summary' of the CAA's intepretation of JAR FCL and the ANO.
Come to that, even JAR is not law. In fact, the JAA doesn't exist anymore. Everything is now governed by EASA.
Confused?
And we wonder where all the money goes
Briefly as I am planning for the next few days.
The 15 hours is not needed if you pass an FI test, not a Type Rating test with an FIE.
In amendment 3 they missed out the 15hour requirement due to a typo.
It is back in,in amendment 6 and is in one of the paragraphs included by AIC 72/2007 (my favourite subject). The para referred to above by albyskoons, 2.310a(6)
The only mention I can find of 15 hours in the last 12 months is for the renewal of an FI rating in 2.320G and that doesn't say it has to be on one type.
The 15 hours is not needed if you pass an FI test, not a Type Rating test with an FIE.
In amendment 3 they missed out the 15hour requirement due to a typo.
It is back in,in amendment 6 and is in one of the paragraphs included by AIC 72/2007 (my favourite subject). The para referred to above by albyskoons, 2.310a(6)
The only mention I can find of 15 hours in the last 12 months is for the renewal of an FI rating in 2.320G and that doesn't say it has to be on one type.
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Change to FI requirements?
Hi all. Does anybody know anything about a possible change in the requirements to become a JAA PPL(H) Flight Instructor? Namely not requiring a CPL (H). Aparently this has alredy happended for fixed wing and is in the pipeline for us. I have tried to search online but with no luck.
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