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Old 28th Jun 2004, 21:15
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Hmm...you obviously live in a rough area, Bertie.
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Old 28th Jun 2004, 23:46
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I'd mind - I'd complain
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Old 29th Jun 2004, 21:08
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To the Police ?!
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Old 29th Jun 2004, 22:50
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 17:28
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Police Pilot Q!

To all Police pilots out there, I am curious to know what work hours/ shifts you do? How many days on/off, do you fly nights regular or only on special occasions, how many hours per day,etc....
Many thanks, and thank you all for playing your part in making my neighbourhood a little bit safer.
Regards,
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 18:33
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It varies from unit to unit
we are limited by the normal 7 day FTL rule although we work a variation on the roster
(the 7 day rule being, no more than 60 flying duty hours (not flying hours) in any seven day period.

we work 12 hour shifts
5 days on
5 days off
5 nights on
1 rest day
4 days off
back to 5 days on etc. ad nauseum adnauseum
No fatigue here
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 21:02
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Fatigue, your'e not related at all to Aerial Anarchist of the Ive been woken up by a Copper Chopper fame would you?

Seems funny, odd question about Flying hours for the ASU and even stranger somewhat related name relating to the previous incident.

Was only wondering.....
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 23:02
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Fatigue,

Police hele pilots work a variety of shifts, depending what the police forces want, what the CAA will allow and how many pilots are in the ASU roster. Shift length between 9 and 12 hours. Patterns vary but are based upon normal FTL rules with one or two special changes, pretty similar to any public transport operator.

Most work day and night (for fairly obvious reasons) to do with the demand for their services) but at least one only works a day shift at present. Some work 24 hours, others slightly less than this.

The rules are in the CAP that is the PAOM Pt1. You can get a pdf copy from the CAA website of Issue 2, although the few changes in it do not come into effect yet.

Unless you explain why you want to know, people may be a bit reluctant to give full details

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Old 10th Jul 2004, 23:31
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Hey there AV18tor,

Absolutely nothing to do with that pratt "aerial anarchist", see what you mean about my name though, just read that other post myself!!!!
I was just curious thats all,as I know air ambulances do not fly at night, I was wondering if the police pilots fly nights regularly or only in special cases.

regards,
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Old 11th Jul 2004, 11:17
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Fatigue,

OK, in the UK all police helicopters are available to fly at least some of the night. Fundamentally, this is because there is a demand for them from the ground troops, and a history of great results at night. In this respect, the UK is the same as anywhere else.

UK air ambulances in the primary role are not allowed, in practice, to land at the scenes of accidents/casualties at night, so there is not much point in them being available after it gets dark. The exception is (or used to be) the NHS-funded helicopters in Scotland, as they are used for inter-airfield transfers with lights etc. at night

Helicopter HEMS could be equipped to do landings at night off-airfield (IFR fit, means of checking the site at night etc.) but it all costs extra that the charities that pay for HEMS cannot afford, and would reduce the spare payload, so pushing them to bigger and more expensive helicopters that they cannot afford........
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Old 11th Jul 2004, 19:33
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Seeing as we are quizzing the poor old police pilots out there,
I was wondering how many hours do you actually get to fly a year or is it mostly hurry up and wait work??


Thanks
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Old 11th Jul 2004, 21:46
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200 to 250 hrs per annum
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Old 12th Jul 2004, 11:32
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Out of around 2000 hours on duty!
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Old 12th Jul 2004, 12:26
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The most I have heard of is ~ 400 hrs per year in police work; 200-300 is more typical
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Old 12th Jul 2004, 15:02
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thanks, kind of kills any interest in police flying then. Prefer to get more stick time than that if poss.
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 20:36
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You mean that you actually want to work for a living? Must be mad...
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Old 14th Jul 2004, 12:14
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When you think how many days a year we work, it turns out about 1.5hrs (250-300) each day which for me is about 4 trips per day....can't complain about that.
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Old 14th Jul 2004, 20:02
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Cool

good point there, Short but sweet.
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Old 10th Aug 2004, 09:25
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Threads merged.
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Old 13th Aug 2004, 08:36
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fish

I left police flying because there was simply too much duty time for too little flying.

Joined a Loco airline where the ratio is reversed to the point of fatigue!

Can't win can you?
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