Becoming a Police Pilot
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Becoming a Police Pilot
It's always puzzled me, but why is it that there are no fellow RAF pilots working for UK police air support units? Am I the only one out there?
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Also, link to - How NOT to become a Police Pilot!
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Also, link to - How NOT to become a Police Pilot!
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Where are you looking apart from in the wrong place? There are lots of us out here.
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p.s. Having read your interests in your profile - are you sure you aren't a fishead?
May the Force be with you - and may Gravity treat you gently..
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p.s. Having read your interests in your profile - are you sure you aren't a fishead?
May the Force be with you - and may Gravity treat you gently..
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I always reckoned the comparative dearth of Crabs in onshore helicopters was that having come from a very controlled environment they preferred the more structured existence of the North Sea/ large companies/ large meaningful aircraft.( 
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(As a fishhead I couldn't cope with the boredom and all that b... water so naturally came onshore after a very short time.)
Police Aviation in the early days was pretty temporary ad hoc stuff and hence not appealing.
Does that make sense - you all note how reasonable and unbiased I am being?
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)(As a fishhead I couldn't cope with the boredom and all that b... water so naturally came onshore after a very short time.)
Police Aviation in the early days was pretty temporary ad hoc stuff and hence not appealing.
Does that make sense - you all note how reasonable and unbiased I am being?
[This message has been edited by MBJ (edited 10 February 2000).]
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Different story here in the US....
In such Federal-level agencies as the FBI and US Customs Service, one finds a dearth of former military pilots.
The picture changes drastically at the State, county and municipal levels however. There, one will find a great many current and prospective air support unit pilots who received their flight training in civilian life. Quite a few may well have prefered to have been military pilots but were barred from military aviation for one reason or another, and opted for the law-enforcement community as an alternative.
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Anybody out after 2 AM is either a t_urd, a cop or a pilot. Or any combination of the three!
In such Federal-level agencies as the FBI and US Customs Service, one finds a dearth of former military pilots.
The picture changes drastically at the State, county and municipal levels however. There, one will find a great many current and prospective air support unit pilots who received their flight training in civilian life. Quite a few may well have prefered to have been military pilots but were barred from military aviation for one reason or another, and opted for the law-enforcement community as an alternative.
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Anybody out after 2 AM is either a t_urd, a cop or a pilot. Or any combination of the three!
Manchester Police Support
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The maintenance is very likely to go to PAS given their experience with 902. Direct employment is being considered by a lot of ASU's and seems the flavour of the month, given increasing pilotage costs. An ASU will be able to reduce costs considerably and increase pilots wages. Better for both in a lot of ways.
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Many thanks for the reply Marco though I'm still no wiser as to exactly who is employing there now. Are you saying that greater Manchester have become self employers? In which case, do you have the name, address or contact number that a person looking for work may find useful?
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Whoa there PP!! Not everyone has the raw deal you appear to have. My conditions of service are vastly superior to any of the contract company deals out there. PLUS and its a big plus...(a) I dont have to travel God knows where to cover for relief pilotage, every week, and (b) won't get "dumped" by my beloved company when work is thin on the ground!!
I suspect you've walked into your contract with blinkers on!!
Having spoken to a number of DE pilots over the years, I can whole heartedly recommend it.....
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Thermal runaway.
I suspect you've walked into your contract with blinkers on!!
Having spoken to a number of DE pilots over the years, I can whole heartedly recommend it.....
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Thermal runaway.
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To help set the record straight. GMP ASU pilots are currently still employed by MAS. The contract for pilotage at GMP ran out on the 31st Dec 2000 but this has been renewed on a short term basis. The long term future of pilotage at GMP is still undecided but it looks likely to be one of two choices either stay with MAS or go to direct employment. There are still things going on in the background but so as not to jeopardize any on going negotiations I will not comment further.
PurplePitot, If direct employment is so bad why did you leave MAS in the first place and secondly why don't you go back to them? You only talk about the additional benefits i.e pension, loss of licence etc. but do not mention the basic salary. A post was advertised at your unit recently paying £35,000 and that wasn't for covering 12 hour shifts. I have heard that start salary with MAS is £29,000 and that may include 5 day/night 12 hour shifts. I have also heard that leave isn't always available as there isn't enough relief pilotage to cover it so leave can't be a. Fully used and b. Taken when you want it.
So anytime you want to go back to being a contract pilot feel free!!!
"May the God of weather treat you kindly"
PurplePitot, If direct employment is so bad why did you leave MAS in the first place and secondly why don't you go back to them? You only talk about the additional benefits i.e pension, loss of licence etc. but do not mention the basic salary. A post was advertised at your unit recently paying £35,000 and that wasn't for covering 12 hour shifts. I have heard that start salary with MAS is £29,000 and that may include 5 day/night 12 hour shifts. I have also heard that leave isn't always available as there isn't enough relief pilotage to cover it so leave can't be a. Fully used and b. Taken when you want it.
So anytime you want to go back to being a contract pilot feel free!!!
"May the God of weather treat you kindly"
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Glad to have caused some debate on pros & cons of direct employment but the reason for my original thread was to try and get a job. When you are about to become unemployed then who really cares about pension contributions etc. At present I fall into the catagory of not really caring. My priority is to get a job first and then better my life from there.
So as I said in my last post, contacts and info gladly received.
So as I said in my last post, contacts and info gladly received.