Becoming a Police Pilot
wde, I'm glad he made it to Canada - it's all he used to talk about in the office. He was planning to teach them NVG ops once Transport Canada gave the go ahead so I assume that is the way it's worked out.
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PH, gissajob!!
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Well,
He came to Canada, flew a Police contract in CYYZ for 6 months, then moved up to '76's on EMS (where I met him and we worked together for 6 mths), then onto EMS work in Alberta with the BK117 and he is now the Ops Mgr at that new place.
From lowly SE, Copper-pilot-w@nker to Ops Mgr (grande Fromage) in 2 yrs..not bad. Still has wife, 1 child, an Owl that sees at Nite, and other things. I emailed him but got an out-of-office reply..he must be in Dallas is my guess....
Will pass on allyour greetings when we next x paths...
He came to Canada, flew a Police contract in CYYZ for 6 months, then moved up to '76's on EMS (where I met him and we worked together for 6 mths), then onto EMS work in Alberta with the BK117 and he is now the Ops Mgr at that new place.
From lowly SE, Copper-pilot-w@nker to Ops Mgr (grande Fromage) in 2 yrs..not bad. Still has wife, 1 child, an Owl that sees at Nite, and other things. I emailed him but got an out-of-office reply..he must be in Dallas is my guess....
Will pass on allyour greetings when we next x paths...
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Thanks to wde for the update to all asking about 2nd2none. I did not realize that I was a w@nker but who knows?
Have a great time at HAI, wish you were here, not! Canada is just great, just need to get nursie to think the same.
To get back to the original thread, please contact me for info about the Calgary HAWKS project. Check your PM's for email info.
TTFN
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Have a great time at HAI, wish you were here, not! Canada is just great, just need to get nursie to think the same.
To get back to the original thread, please contact me for info about the Calgary HAWKS project. Check your PM's for email info.
TTFN
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It looks as if this is turning into a 286/287 reunion. As I look at the 287 course piccy, x out the 13 who perished, ignore the snco who works for Waitrose & the career Officer, dismiss the Orifice that fell asleep in the hover, that leaves only two candidates from 287 who could be down under.
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flygunz. I'm gonna go out on a limb here but...if the one who worked for waitrose is the one I think you mean (PC), then he is quite suitable to be 'unignored' and join your hallowed ranks, since he now ploughs a mean furrow in the sky between Sumburgh and the ESB and has done for quite a few years.
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John Du, hope you don't need that limb for flying as I think your mistaken. The chap to whom I refer was working for Waitrose the last time I saw him in Salisbury, if he also commutes to the frozen wastes I'll eat my wifes hat! Also, the ranks of 287 are far from hallowed and anyone with a tenner for a round is welcome. You can pm me if you like, we probably got drunk in the choppers with 2to0 and flungdung!!
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Flungdung, pm on its way with email so we can get off this, fun though it is shorty!!
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Flygunz, thinking about it you may be right....The Supra owner and ex shelfstacker that I am thinking of was probably a year before our time. Still, hello anyway.
and Hi Ken I take it you're enjoying Canada then? (You were the 669 QHI just before I went off to become a driver...
and Hi Ken I take it you're enjoying Canada then? (You were the 669 QHI just before I went off to become a driver...
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The Supra owner and shelf stacker that you refer to was on 283 with me and for one so small he sure made up for it in attitude!
Is this as far off topic as it can get, yet?
Perhaps us ex-AAC types need our own forum? What are your thoughts.
Is this as far off topic as it can get, yet?
Perhaps us ex-AAC types need our own forum? What are your thoughts.
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UK Police Aviation - "Currency"?
As an ex-mil heli pilot with well over the "normal" hours/experience reqt for Police helicopter jobs, but not having flown rotary for almost 3 years, would this lack of recency be much of an issue with a potential employer? If so, would some recent flying on something like a 206 make any difference?
(I've been flying for an airline in the meantime - yeah, yeah, I know, no lectures please!)
(I've been flying for an airline in the meantime - yeah, yeah, I know, no lectures please!)
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I do not think that that is an issue. I was plank winging for 8 years before going back to rotary and its hover or crash/burn/die so you remember quite quickly!
Do not bother with any heli-time as you should receive a comprehensive conversion to type anyway.
That is the theory anyway.
Do not bother with any heli-time as you should receive a comprehensive conversion to type anyway.
That is the theory anyway.
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PUP,
It probably wouldn't be an issue at all if you were the only one applying for the job. If you get my drift.
BTW, I have a fixed wing licence but haven't flown planks for some time. Do you think your present employer would let me have your job when you leave?
It probably wouldn't be an issue at all if you were the only one applying for the job. If you get my drift.
BTW, I have a fixed wing licence but haven't flown planks for some time. Do you think your present employer would let me have your job when you leave?
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It is a competitive market out there. Like others, I don't think that recency is an issue. However, if two pilots apply for a job and one has the relevant type rating, there will be a tendency to go for the guy who does not need the money spending to get the type rating. This may apply especially to the commercial operators, rather than the directly employing ASUs. Mind you, most of them are looking for previous police flying experience.
It is simple really, if you look at it from a beancounter's perspective, why spend the money when the pilot may not make the grade or decide to go off somewhere else. (I am not agreeing with them, just saying how it often is).
It is simple really, if you look at it from a beancounter's perspective, why spend the money when the pilot may not make the grade or decide to go off somewhere else. (I am not agreeing with them, just saying how it often is).
At our ASU we would be looking at the personality just as much as the currency aspects. We would always be prepared to train someone with the right breadth of experience and crew skills over someone qualified on type but who had an attitude problem.
Sadly no jobs at the moment though.........
Sadly no jobs at the moment though.........
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PUP
I agree with the last post. Personality is a huge issue when it comes to employing a pilot. As a Chief Pilot of a SAR/EMS organisation, I have had more than enough experience to see that this is the case. Very lucky at the moment with the guys flying for me. I believe that this is the case not matter what part of the industry you may be in (EMS, Police, Media, Charter, etc)
The Police Air Wing in Sydney recently employed a pilot and he had no rating on any of the aircraft types they operated!! (B206, AS350B2 & AS355N).
Very out of the norm but the reason he got the job over the others was his personality and proven ability to work with a crew and understand each person's role on board (previous military experience). They are prepared to endorse him on their 3 aircraft types because they believe he will be a long term employee for them and stick it out for the long term.
Good philosophy I reckon. I hope it works out for both parties.
I agree with the last post. Personality is a huge issue when it comes to employing a pilot. As a Chief Pilot of a SAR/EMS organisation, I have had more than enough experience to see that this is the case. Very lucky at the moment with the guys flying for me. I believe that this is the case not matter what part of the industry you may be in (EMS, Police, Media, Charter, etc)
The Police Air Wing in Sydney recently employed a pilot and he had no rating on any of the aircraft types they operated!! (B206, AS350B2 & AS355N).
Very out of the norm but the reason he got the job over the others was his personality and proven ability to work with a crew and understand each person's role on board (previous military experience). They are prepared to endorse him on their 3 aircraft types because they believe he will be a long term employee for them and stick it out for the long term.
Good philosophy I reckon. I hope it works out for both parties.