Mountain Flying
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From: On the big blue planet
If they will adapt the Swiss rules, mountain terrain will start at 1100m/M.
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German Authorities do not have ANY clue at the moment, how all this (mountain flying, maintenance test pilot etc.) will work in the future....
At the moment, they are refusing to accept any documents of proof (e.g. certificates about mountain flying-more than 1000 hours), because it "is not becoming applicable before 2015".....
In the same sentence, they told me that even then they will only accept "up to date"-certificates from (then) certified flight schools with certified instructors (where do these instructors get their ratings from?)....
I like the idea about the ratings for a round helipad, and another for a square one-because that is exactly what we are heading for.......
Btw: Did anyone find anything about spraying in EASA?
At the moment, they are refusing to accept any documents of proof (e.g. certificates about mountain flying-more than 1000 hours), because it "is not becoming applicable before 2015".....
In the same sentence, they told me that even then they will only accept "up to date"-certificates from (then) certified flight schools with certified instructors (where do these instructors get their ratings from?)....
I like the idea about the ratings for a round helipad, and another for a square one-because that is exactly what we are heading for.......
Btw: Did anyone find anything about spraying in EASA?
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From: within a range of RPG
probably that one will need IFR(H) and Spraying Rating 
which will be type related, so when you get Spraying Rating on AS350, you will have to do another one for Bell206
Normally there will be ME SR if one wants to do it in twin engine helicopter
In next decade they will introduce Other Than White Helicopter Rating OTWHR for those that want to fly helicopters painted blue, red or any other color
I'm thinking to get FAA licences and to forget stupid EU
which will be type related, so when you get Spraying Rating on AS350, you will have to do another one for Bell206Normally there will be ME SR if one wants to do it in twin engine helicopter
In next decade they will introduce Other Than White Helicopter Rating OTWHR for those that want to fly helicopters painted blue, red or any other color
I'm thinking to get FAA licences and to forget stupid EU
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From: Aberdare, Wales
Meteorology
In this photo there is a cloud to the right of the mountain. Does this mean that the leeward side of the mountain is the side nearest the cloud and if so am I correct to say that this is the side to avoid flying through?
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If they will adapt the Swiss rules, mountain terrain will start at 1100m/M.
Uh Oh! What about those places that don't have any terrain lower than 1100 M....and are flat as a Billiard Table? Say like East of Denver.....until you get almost to St. Louis for instance.
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From: canada
HeliStudent, yes, you are correct. It is a Lenticular cloud, evidence of a strong wind. If you need to go in that direction, stay on the upwind side of the mountain. The helicopter in the photo is flying into the wind, or nearly so
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From: Blackbushe City Limits
Mountain Flying Weekend in Snowdonia
Some images from last weekend's mountain appreciation flying which had many highlights; one of our aircraft being targeted by two F14s (we think) being one, the other seeing one of the RAF Valley Sea Kings out and about on Monday, and having to do a swift start up to clear the fuel bay at Caernarfon as they had called for fuel (then cancelled as got called to another job I believe). On the way home after some pinnacle approaches and landings, conducted a recce of Lake Vyrnwy, interesting approach required given the 300 wind at the time. Also enjoyed landing at Portmeirion (once the sheep were cleared), £100 for two R22s & one R44; they sent a driver to pick us from the field and included free admission to the village where we sat and had tea in front of the hotel. Pretty good value we thought for seven of us.
All in all learnt a great deal not possible in the relatively benign south of England which I am accustomed to. Big thank you to the friendly and helpful people of Kemble, Welshpool and Caernarfon. Looking forward to getting back up that way sometime soon.
Helicopter Mountain Flying in Snowdonia, Wales. - a set on Flickr
Lozz.
All in all learnt a great deal not possible in the relatively benign south of England which I am accustomed to. Big thank you to the friendly and helpful people of Kemble, Welshpool and Caernarfon. Looking forward to getting back up that way sometime soon.
Helicopter Mountain Flying in Snowdonia, Wales. - a set on Flickr
Lozz.
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From: in the rain
EASA Mountain Rating
Does anyone know what EASA will do next week regarding the Mountain Rating? The UK CAA website says "The rating will not be mandatory until 8th April 2015".
Are we going to find out next Thurday what the definition of mountainous terrain will be and what training will be required or can somone tell me already now?
Are we going to find out next Thurday what the definition of mountainous terrain will be and what training will be required or can somone tell me already now?
