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Silverds88 16th July 2018 12:01

Hours of flight
 
Hello my friends.After hard working for several years, i am about to join a flight academy in Europe in order to have my ATPL studies.As soon as i am looking for the best school which suits me best i have a decent concern and need your help.
I ve read that after finish school you just have 250h of flying. Airlines require 1500h in order to have an interview. Several schools advertise that their students can find a job directly after their atpl program is over and also have posts with their students get hired from airlines like ryanair etc.
So can you please help me what should i do ?Ithink that in order to reach 1500hours after school cost THOUSANDS of money that cant afford extra. Which academy do you recommend and moreover what is the chances to get a job.
Thank you!

Nurse2Pilot 16th July 2018 17:11

I would think the 1500hrs flight time requirement only applies to the USA, not EASA or EU pilots. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there but that's what I'm aware of.

cavok_flyer 17th July 2018 08:35

You can always get an interview; 1500h is the amount of hours in the EU to get your "frozen" ATPL "unfrozen".

Nurse2Pilot 17th July 2018 18:58

So he doesn't have to pay for those 1500hrs (or 1250hrs) but rather get paid as he works from 250hrs to 1500hrs, right?

31Pilot 17th July 2018 19:26



There’s generally two types of positions advertised. The first is what most will look for, they’re low hour cadet positions like Ryanair.

The other, for example, is like BA who require a certain number of hours (1000hrs as an example) and often on aircraft over a certain weight. BA have their own cadet programme so they would rather take new pilots from there or hire more experienced pilots from other airlines etc.

You should search for low hour pilot jobs and see what they require, then compare that to what your training gets you. Being realistic, nobody is going to finish their training and walk into their local flag carrier unless they’re on a tagged scheme.



Nurse2Pilot 17th July 2018 19:41

I was just asking/clarifying in reference to the original concerns by Silverds88 above where he thinks he needs to have 1500hrs before an airline interview which I believe is a US requirement but not here in EASA/EU.

1500hrs and an unfrozen ATPL opens a lot of doors if I'm reading stories correctly but that still doesn't mean a low-hour (250hrs) pilot is out of luck, right?

rudestuff 17th July 2018 19:42

Be careful of the differences between FAA and EASA.

For EASA multi crew aircraft, you only need a CPL and IR to be a first officer, which you can get with 200 hours (or less if you go integrated).

An ATPL is only required to be a captain. That's when you need 1500 hours (amongst other things). Most airlines want 3-4,000 hours to get a command anyway, so there's no rush..

Plenty of European airlines are hiring people with 200 hours.

Nurse2Pilot 17th July 2018 20:15

Thanks for that confirmation, rudestuff! So an applicant for FO with 200hrs is a reality; I guess once you're in, that 1500hrs will come with the territory after a few years!

JamboMac 27th July 2018 08:08

Modular Training in Hungary
 
Hi all! I am looking at going down the modular route for my fATPL. I plan on doing PPL, hours building, ATPL theory, CPL, MEP CR & MEP-IR. I will then come back to the UK for MCC/JOT.

Does anyone know if going to a non-UK, cheaper school out in Hungary will have a negative effect on prospects once back in the UK? There is a number of schools near Bp that offer these courses and I plan to go and visit, but I won't really be able to find out what reputation these schools have with UK airlines.


PilotYannick 6th August 2018 00:18

Looking for an aviation college
 
Hi everyone

I'm a Belgium senior high school student. I'm obsessed by aviation and I already got my PLL. My dream is to become a commercial pilot. My goal is to get my ATPL as fast as possible but I would also want a (usefull) university degree as a backup. I'm looking for a college which offers aviation related degrees and doesn't stretch my ATPL training to much. There options are very limited in Belgium so I was thinking about the UK or US but I don't know where to start.

Most my grades are around 70%-75%. Costs and fees aren't a reall issue but the cheaper the better as long as the quality stays the same.

Small sidenote: I don't have my ppl yet but I'm done with my training. I'm now waiting for my 17th birthday to do my exam.


flapsupboy 6th August 2018 17:01

Hi there, I am in a similar situation. I started PPL when I was 16.Got my license when I was 17.I too intend to complete a degree. I have looking forward at the degree offered by the Kingston University, UK. Bsc. in Aviation Studies for Commercial Pilot Training(UCAS CODE :H461) About two years back they offered a top up degree where you can skip the first two years and get into third year. The requirements were a PPL and ATPL theory completed. But now you have to have A/Ls or some recognised previous education or a foundation degree with them. That means it takes two years time for me as I will have to do a foundation degree. The fees were around 9000eur per year. Not exactly sure about the fees. Do yourself a quick research and you'll find out. This degree is now not listed in their website but if you email them they'll answer your questions. My plan is to complete ATPL and CPL and apply to an airline. If I am unsuccessful I'll go with the degree and try applying again.
BTW when do you turn 17?
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Contact Approach 6th August 2018 19:30

Guys/Gals,

Don't be so stead fast on you pursuit to the RHS of a jet. Use your youth to party, travel, mess up and plainly enjoy yourself... trust me the seat isn't as comfortable after a few years anyways.


flapsupboy 6th August 2018 20:58

:rolleyes:

AngelsTen 7th August 2018 11:06

What courses to increase employability
 
Afternoon all,

After some research I think I’ve nailed down my choice of modular flying school, my decision will be definite after a visit sometime this week.

The school offers a fast track course from zero to frozen hero.

I’ve heard that modular won’t always have the connections to airline HR like an integrated school would. My question is what courses could be obtained down the line to improve employability.

Hope that makes sense

Look forward to future responses


PilotYannick 8th August 2018 04:26

Thanks your post it helped a lot. What specific degree is this? I'm 16 now my birthday is the 22th of October. I really hope that the weather will be good enough to fly.

PelicanSquawk 8th August 2018 13:51

AngelsTen

Just out of interest which school did you choose? And have you done your ATPL theory yet?

AngelsTen 9th August 2018 05:23



Potentationally Aeros In Coventry, no not done the ATPL theory yet.

flapsupboy 9th August 2018 05:47


Originally Posted by PilotYannick (Post 10217861)
Thanks your post it helped a lot. What specific degree is this? I'm 16 now my birthday is the 22th of October. I really hope that the weather will be good enough to fly.

This is a Bachelors degree :
https://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergrad...ilot-training/
Wish you best of luck with the flight test.

nelson_v 15th August 2018 17:50

Need help looking for a flight school in U.K. for integrated APTL.
 
Hello guys,

This is Nelson, from Macau (Located near H.K.). Portuguese passport holder (EU citizen).

I am looking for a flight school in U.K. (Because studying in U.K. the dream of my lifetime :) ) with a good reputation, and suitable for a self-fund student (From 0 to ATPL) to apply an integrated ATPL.

The following flight school always appear on aviation forums, what do you think about them? Any good suggestions for flight school other than them?

CAE Oxford
L3
Airways Aviation
Aeros Flight Training
CATS Aviation Training
Skies aviation academy
Airways aviation
Craven College

Please share your experience/ rumours about the flight school on above/ the school you're recommended, your feedback will be absolutely valuable to my future pathway on aviation.

Thank you soooo much guys!

reiting 22nd August 2018 11:32

CPL MEP IR
 
Hello

Im about to finish my hour building stage and be ready for a CPL/MEP/IR. Im wondering how much the price of the courses will actually be compared to the advertised ones ? Like any good rule of thumb for example +10-20% of the advertised one ? Im pretty sure that the actual prices will be more just like with PPL where the price advertised is just for the minimum requirements but barely anyone makes it with the minimum. And also does anyone know any good CPL/MEP/IR offers out there in europe at the moment ?


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