Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11433926)

If you're paying £3,600 per hour for MEIR training you might want to consider something smaller!
Also, you're paying £200 per hour for hour building when you could get it for half that.
And for some reason you want to pay £500 per hour for SEIR training. You're getting screwed and you're pushing back. I can see £25,000 of savings straight away...

Originally Posted by rleungz (Post 11474810)

Hi - please may someone lay out why doing the CBIR is better .e.g. getting your PPL and doing a IMC (IR)?

Originally Posted by mystify2431 (Post 11434178)

Thanks. Well that's encouraging to hear that I probably have some of those costs wrong then. I was taking quotes that I'd seen for those respective packages but hadn't figured that a per-hour rate would probably be better. For the hour-building, I can't find anything that much cheaper in my area though, but I'll hopefully be able to take a chunk off in a package somewhere sunnier.

Originally Posted by G-FATTY (Post 5470287)

Hi checkxp,
I did my training all modular and came out with the same pieces of paper in the end as any intergrated fATPL holder, for less than 1/2 the price (if it costs £100,000!! above)

2 years! - PPL for £6200, 45hrs
6months - ATPL groundschool fulltime Cabair £2250 + living exp. = £3,200 (good name, would recommend groundschool @ Bournemouth).
5months - Hour building @ £70ph + landing fees etc = £8500 - UK based
3months - Multi CPL/IR at PAT, Bournemouth = £26,000inc exams - (great name, instructors) + living exp.£1,600
1 week - MCC @ European = £1,900 living exp £120

Modular route......priceless!
(Total: £48,170)
under 15months taken out from completing PPL.
200.1 hours total.

I think my training was picking the best of each stage in my view. The level of training was as high as I believe it can get and I feel that each training organisation above was providing a tailor made course to suit my needs.
At the end of the day though I am not guaranteed an interview, as I believe some intergrated course offer, but I would prefer to go to an interview saying I managed my training on both cost and a hight level of training, than to turn up to an interview that was included in a package.

In answer to your question, I would have £51,830 left for a Type Rating until im evens with a intergrated students price.
If only I had that money left over!

Thought this may be of some interest. Good luck with the training.

Originally Posted by Zembla82 (Post 11499361)

I would prefer to do joint CAA and EASA licences but let's even say for the UK licence, any ballpark figures to go zero to fATPL via modular?

Originally Posted by flyaviation15 (Post 11514946)

Can you do hour building at different flights schools? which are not in the UK, e.g. in Florida or somewhere in Europe. Which might workout to be cheaper than UK to do hour building.

Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11515229)

In the UK at typical prices about £45,000-£50,000 is achievable if you do everything in the optimal order. It's relatively easy to price it up using any flight schools rate-sheet. To finish your fATPL with the CPL test you need at least 200 hours total (with a minimum of 12 hours multi engine) and 77 hours of dual instruction. Plus the cost of medical, ATPL theory, exams, flight tests and licence and landing fees.

Using £175ph (SEP), £450ph (MEP) and £60(Instructor) as an example:
(188x175)+(12×450)+(77*60) = £42,920.

That's doing it all in the UK at school rates. If you split your hour building into 2 blocks of 2 weeks of 50 hours and do it in Florida at £100 per hour (probably cheaper) then even if you spend £2000 each time on flights and hotels you'll save £3500 which brings the cost of aircraft and instructor below £40,000. Plus you'll get the hours a lot quicker.

Originally Posted by cede (Post 11516771)

Hey rudestuff,

Currently in a similarish career to airlines, just via a different medium....

I've seen you say that now has never been better than to go for the training. I've seen others say that even taking out a loan to part fund is an option worth considering (sorry I can't remember who).

My day job pays well. However it will take me a year or two to save up the figures quoted for modular. There are a few options I have been thinking about;

1. Take as big a loan as I can get, and save up the remaining difference = less time to fATPL and more chances of employment "quicker" in this market, and thus total career earnings. However more debt and first job could be on regional carrier with low pay and high repayments...

2. Save up everything I need including living expenses and then do it all off my own back = will take 2/3 years to save up properly and may have missed my "chance" in the market. However no debt and if I get first job with regional, I'll not be struggling with repayments. Though final career earnings could be less??

3. A balance of the two options. Save up half and loan the other half = best of both worlds or worst of both worlds?

Any thoughts on the above?

Cheers

Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11515229)

In the UK at typical prices about £45,000-£50,000 is achievable if you do everything in the optimal order. It's relatively easy to price it up using any flight schools rate-sheet. To finish your fATPL with the CPL test you need at least 200 hours total (with a minimum of 12 hours multi engine) and 77 hours of dual instruction. Plus the cost of medical, ATPL theory, exams, flight tests and licence and landing fees.

Using £175ph (SEP), £450ph (MEP) and £60(Instructor) as an example:
(188x175)+(12×450)+(77*60) = £42,920.

That's doing it all in the UK at school rates. If you split your hour building into 2 blocks of 2 weeks of 50 hours and do it in Florida at £100 per hour (probably cheaper) then even if you spend £2000 each time on flights and hotels you'll save £3500 which brings the cost of aircraft and instructor below £40,000. Plus you'll get the hours a lot quicker.