what are the 4 T's of navigation?

[Tarmach]

What are the 4 T's of navigation?

Thanks,

Tarmach

[Axial Flow]

I think that three of them could be Time,Turn and Talk ??

[Captain Mainwaring]

The fourth 'T' could be Throttle.
i.e. Do you need to change level ?

[Axial Flow]

Sounds good Capt. The only other time I have really used the "T"'s is when beacon outbound on an IFR flight. Time Turn Talk, and set QFE...obviously no fourth T there..?!?!

[BN2A]

Time, TWIST (heading bug), Turn, Talk.

[Jumbo Jockey]

Geoff Dunster of Channel Aviation used to have six of 'em, mainly designed around flying an instrument approach:

Turn (on to the necessary track)
Time (start the watch)
Twist (OBS or maybe altimeter subscale)
Throttle (go down, slow down or both)
Talk (report the beacon outbound/inbound)
Track (concentrate on going in the right direction!)

Works for me.

[SpeedBird22]

In VFR nav, I believe it is

TIME : Record
TURN : Set new heading
TALK : Position report if needed / frequency change
TASK : Calculate ETA, gross error check

Happy flying,

SpeedBird22

[Rusty Cessna]

Speedbird,

You are indeed correct, the 4th "T" is Task.

Safe Ascents

[Tor]

How about some P's instead: Proper pre-flight planning prevents poor performance.

[SpeedBird22]

I just want to point out that there is no correct or incorrect answer, but time,turn,talk,task is the way I've been taught and it works for me.

Using a different navigation method is fine, as long as it works for them!

SpeedBird22

[cortilla]

i think you missed out a p in proper preflight planning prevents pixx poor performance 6 p's there

[Dave Incognito]

You can also use CLEAROFF.

Compass & DI alignment
Log (ie ETAs)
Engine (T's & P's, Alt & Suction etc.)
Altitude (QNH, climbing/descending to)
Radios (nav & comm)
Orientation (lead out features)
Fuel
Forced landing areas

Have a good one, Dave


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Flying is easy - just throw yourself at the ground and miss.

[Jetheat]

When entering a hold or leaving a hold:

Turn
Time
Twist
Throttle
Talk
Think (think ahead, preferably 5 mins)

[Bush Driver]

Jetheat,


You are indeed correct. Whatever works for you is best as long as you stick to it.


here are some other useful ones


RAWLEF for holds...


Reason (Rwy Blocked?)
Altitude (lower?)
Weather (below mins)
Location (on inbound course?)
Expect further clearance
Fuel (how much remaining?)


AMORTS approach brief


Approach (make sure you have right one)
Minimums (sector, procedure turn, FAF crossing, DH or MDA)
Overshoot (missed approach)
Radio (tune & identify)
Time (to MAP)
Special (non standard notations)

Hope these help


[This message has been edited by Bush Driver (edited 11 March 2001).]

[Tor]

How about xmoglyfh?

[BEagle]

I was always taught the Hunter DFGA technique:

T L A R

That Looks About Right!!

[dingducky]

hmmm
how about the S's
i remeber someone asking me if i knew what the 3 S's that pilots were interested in were.
i guessed:
Sex
Sucking
Screwing

they said that it was actually
Sex
Senority
Salary

but they liked mine better

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If God had meant us to travel economy class, he would have made us narrower!

[AffirmBrest]

Eng fail on a light twin:

Firewall everything
Undercarriage UP
Clean up
Kill the dead engine

seems to happily spring to mind in appropriate situations. As for the 'T's', I was always taught:

Time
Twist (HDG bug/OBS needle etc. for new course)
Turn
Talk.

Pre-HAAT and Post-HAATs always serve fine for Nav (will be familiar to some..!)

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...proceeding below Decision Height with CAUTION...

[and the chap said]

I use a derivation of the 3 T's - Turn, Time, Chat.

Turn (onto HDG)
Time (start stopwatch)
Comms (chx for freq. change on new HDG
Heading (chx HDG and bug)
Altitude (chx maintain apt. Alt.)
Time (double chx stopwatch)

I like your first one AffirmBrest, you're right it would certainly spring to mind in a fix.

Cheers,
ATCS

[Big Bad Dom]

C R A P

Carb heat cold
Runway clear
Approach looking good
got Permission