Smart Aviation Poland
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From: Manchester, UK
Smart Aviation Poland
Hello everyone, I've been trying to find feedback about Smart Aviation but I've only seen 2 or 3 threads in the forum and they are quite old.
Anyone recently trained there or thinking about going there?
I know for the website that they have updated the fleet and they have new sim.
thanks in advance
Anyone recently trained there or thinking about going there?
I know for the website that they have updated the fleet and they have new sim.
thanks in advance
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I have send Smart Aviation a training request by email not too long ago. The initial respond was quick, but my second email was never answered, even after sending a follow-up email a week later. I was told that the owner of the flight school is running a one-man-show, he is trying to handle it all, but apparently things are getting out of his hands!
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From: Poland
I made my PPL licence there in this year so I can answer on all questions.
True is different the owner isn't a frequent guest in this ATO, an employees do all the work. In general they are recommendable, but there is also a little mess there, more I can talk in private message.
True is different the owner isn't a frequent guest in this ATO, an employees do all the work. In general they are recommendable, but there is also a little mess there, more I can talk in private message.
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From: Poland
Transsonic2000
Hello
Thank you very much for your comment. We are trying to answer all mails. We receive dozens of inquiries every day and sometimes it is simply not possibly to reply to all of them. We have created International Student Helpdesk to provide our students the best service. Please visit our website to find more information:
Hello
Thank you very much for your comment. We are trying to answer all mails. We receive dozens of inquiries every day and sometimes it is simply not possibly to reply to all of them. We have created International Student Helpdesk to provide our students the best service. Please visit our website to find more information:
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From: Poland
avi_fun
It is quite interesting what you are writing. All students know that I spend at school almost 24 hours every day and work really hard. I am also a flight instructor so if I am not at school it means that I'm flying. I invest a lot of money to make school bigger and better. This year I have purchased Alsim ALX simulator and two brand new airplanes.
It is quite interesting what you are writing. All students know that I spend at school almost 24 hours every day and work really hard. I am also a flight instructor so if I am not at school it means that I'm flying. I invest a lot of money to make school bigger and better. This year I have purchased Alsim ALX simulator and two brand new airplanes.
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From: Poland
I have to write a rectification. After last posts of Pilot 1981 I understood that there is ATO Smart Aviation in Poznan. I had thought that we are talking about Smart Aero in Modlin Airport and my posts was about this ATO. There are two different ATO's with similar names and I made a mistook them.
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From: From highlands to lowlands in Europe
Yes I notice many people do get confused about Smart Aero in Modlin and Smart Aviation in Poznan. Totally different owner, fleet and location I guess..
They have a nice new fleet according to the website (Tecnam)!
However, I do really would like to get more info about them, I am very much interested in the CPL module. If any have experience please share!
@Porcellino : any new info or experience by now?
They have a nice new fleet according to the website (Tecnam)!
However, I do really would like to get more info about them, I am very much interested in the CPL module. If any have experience please share!
@Porcellino : any new info or experience by now?
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Well I just finished my skill test CPL/ME and IR this weekend, overall I'm happy with the training I had and with what I learned, specially the IR part, instructors were very good and I felt very prepared for my IR skill test.
I'm starting the MCC course tomorrow in the same Sim I did the IR training, and with same instructor.
It also helped, as I mentioned in another post, that poznan airport is a very good place to practice approaches, plus there's an airport 30 minutes away that is close to operations most of the day, but it can still be use to practice VOR and ILS. ATC are very good handling traffic.
I did some approaches at Lodz and it is very busy, plus the fact that there's taxyway at only one end of the runway makes it even slower since you have to taxi back most of the time.
Prices are very good if you compare with everything else around. Specially that Alsim ALX sim, it's a bargain for MCC and IR.
One thing I would recommend, no because of the academy but as a personal preference, is to do PPL with a non glass cockpit.
Thats the way I did it, with an old PA28 at AAA in San Diego. The reason why I say this is because I've seen students from PPL getting to comfortable with the glass cockpit instrument, and actually ignoring the fact that there are stand-by ASI, AI, and a compass right in the middle of the windshield
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There's a new twin by February and a new IR/ME instructor, which I believe will help to suffice the high demand of the actual twin in operation.
I'm starting the MCC course tomorrow in the same Sim I did the IR training, and with same instructor.
It also helped, as I mentioned in another post, that poznan airport is a very good place to practice approaches, plus there's an airport 30 minutes away that is close to operations most of the day, but it can still be use to practice VOR and ILS. ATC are very good handling traffic.
I did some approaches at Lodz and it is very busy, plus the fact that there's taxyway at only one end of the runway makes it even slower since you have to taxi back most of the time.
Prices are very good if you compare with everything else around. Specially that Alsim ALX sim, it's a bargain for MCC and IR.
One thing I would recommend, no because of the academy but as a personal preference, is to do PPL with a non glass cockpit.
Thats the way I did it, with an old PA28 at AAA in San Diego. The reason why I say this is because I've seen students from PPL getting to comfortable with the glass cockpit instrument, and actually ignoring the fact that there are stand-by ASI, AI, and a compass right in the middle of the windshield
. There's a new twin by February and a new IR/ME instructor, which I believe will help to suffice the high demand of the actual twin in operation.
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From: istanbul
Guys, if anyone of you study from this atplquestions com website for ATPL Theory exams in Poland, i will start to take exams in Poland, i heard that questions are coming from that source, Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Hello carve, my training lasted nearly 3 months but that was due to weather on its majority.
I went there needing 50 hrs to start CPL, but had the requirements for MEP and IR, so I was held back for a month to complete my 150hrs to start CPL and the the 200 hrs for skill test. Weather between November and December was 2-3 flying days a week, or less.
I ended up paying around 20.000 Euros, and that's with the 50hrs hour building on SE, CPL/ME/IR, landing fees, hire the twin for skill test and examiner fee.
Feel free to drop a PM if you have any questions.
I went there needing 50 hrs to start CPL, but had the requirements for MEP and IR, so I was held back for a month to complete my 150hrs to start CPL and the the 200 hrs for skill test. Weather between November and December was 2-3 flying days a week, or less.
I ended up paying around 20.000 Euros, and that's with the 50hrs hour building on SE, CPL/ME/IR, landing fees, hire the twin for skill test and examiner fee.
Feel free to drop a PM if you have any questions.
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From: dax
Thank you very much Porcellino , but unfortunatly , i can't send you an email by pprune ( i don't know why)!
Now you have a CAA UK licence or polish? You had to convert your medical (class1) ?
If you can , send me an email
have a good day
Now you have a CAA UK licence or polish? You had to convert your medical (class1) ?
If you can , send me an email
have a good day
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From: 34000ft
@Porcellino
Hi all i am planning to enroll this year for 0-ATPL course in this Academy in Poznan
may i know from you guys about accommodation near to academy i need single apartment if available around academy
and how much cost ?
second , how is the academy in general ? how is the instructor ?
and which months from year that flying will be less due to bad weather ?
Hi all i am planning to enroll this year for 0-ATPL course in this Academy in Poznan
may i know from you guys about accommodation near to academy i need single apartment if available around academy
and how much cost ?
second , how is the academy in general ? how is the instructor ?
and which months from year that flying will be less due to bad weather ?
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From: Valencia
I’m also trying to find more information about Smart Aviation in Poznan, Poland. They look very professional on their website and their 0-frozen ATPL is very reasonable. Has anyone got any more info about this FTO? Hoping to start there in March!
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From: Canada
Hi Folks, I was just visiting there web page, and I see that they are holding ATPL Theory courses? So do they do there own in house ATPL Theory for 6-8months or are they just briefing sessions before you write the exams? Can someone please clarify?
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From: Palmas
I just started the ATPL distance theory there. From the pictures I think they might have a full in-house portion but I'm not sure.
I have not gone to the school yet but what I was informed; You through the 14k QB on AE with a 75%+ average then you go to the school for 2 weeks or so for briefing sessions and a sim of the exams. Supposedly after that you get the write off from the school to go start your exams. Regarding the other Polish schools the distance ATPL seems to be the same other than using AE to Bristol QB.
Although the back-office there has not been very easy with contact, the HT is a very hard-working guy and gets things done when he's available
I have not gone to the school yet but what I was informed; You through the 14k QB on AE with a 75%+ average then you go to the school for 2 weeks or so for briefing sessions and a sim of the exams. Supposedly after that you get the write off from the school to go start your exams. Regarding the other Polish schools the distance ATPL seems to be the same other than using AE to Bristol QB.
Although the back-office there has not been very easy with contact, the HT is a very hard-working guy and gets things done when he's available
