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TF I think that last post has proved beyond any hope of redemption, that you are a complete and absolute bell end.
If you ever want to be considered as anything other than a laughing stock on PPRUNE again in the future I'd strongly advise you to delete the thread, delete your user name, make a new one, and only contribute to threads when you are quite sure you aren't going to come across as an ignorant arrogant clueless
ing numpty.
If you ever want to be considered as anything other than a laughing stock on PPRUNE again in the future I'd strongly advise you to delete the thread, delete your user name, make a new one, and only contribute to threads when you are quite sure you aren't going to come across as an ignorant arrogant clueless
ing numpty.
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When a policeman nearly ruins your career because he can't read properly, and sets up a massive sting operation to arrest you, in the middle of Oxford Street London, I could not care less what you think my opinion of the police is!
I was innocent, and was later released without even an apology! So yes I feel strongly about the police, this is another topic, DNA records, fingerprints taken, and all because this police squad could not read properly, 1 week before I was starting in the company!
I was innocent, and was later released without even an apology! So yes I feel strongly about the police, this is another topic, DNA records, fingerprints taken, and all because this police squad could not read properly, 1 week before I was starting in the company!
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Wow TF that’s quite an extreme view you have of the coppers there, your business I suppose.
I assume that you’re intelligent enough to realise that there are thousands of coppers across the country and having a bad experience with a few doesn’t mean that they’re all like that.
Any time you get a large group of people together there’s bound to be a few bad eggs, it was certainly the case in the military we had a few proper nasty pieces of work, even the piloting profession (I do still consider it a profession) isn’t immune. In the Freight Dogs section there’s a thread dedicated to a commercial pilot currently facing paedo charges and last year the media was full of a BA long haul Captain who was banged up for life for battering his estranged missus to death and trying to bury her corpse in a park in London. Going by your logic it’s OK to assume that you’re a wife murdering paedo or perhaps as an ex HGV driver you’d rather be compared to Peter Sutcliffe.
I assume that you’re intelligent enough to realise that there are thousands of coppers across the country and having a bad experience with a few doesn’t mean that they’re all like that.
Any time you get a large group of people together there’s bound to be a few bad eggs, it was certainly the case in the military we had a few proper nasty pieces of work, even the piloting profession (I do still consider it a profession) isn’t immune. In the Freight Dogs section there’s a thread dedicated to a commercial pilot currently facing paedo charges and last year the media was full of a BA long haul Captain who was banged up for life for battering his estranged missus to death and trying to bury her corpse in a park in London. Going by your logic it’s OK to assume that you’re a wife murdering paedo or perhaps as an ex HGV driver you’d rather be compared to Peter Sutcliffe.
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When you have the experience I have, it would change your perspective, when you discover their error which saves you, but no apology is given from their major mistake, than when you take them to court they start to lie to protect themselves, you discover it is more than one bad egg, but a system!
If you or me had done some mistake, we would have been fired from our jobs, these they can destroy your life and it has no consequence for them!
Your are in other words guilty, until you can prove yourself innocent!
Funny you mention, but I have passed work both as HGV and Army Officer, and for sure the flying jobs beats all of those passed jobs, which for me was just temporary jobs anyway.
From I was 19 to 36, I travelled a lot, lived many places around the globe, so I knew the impact of having long distance relationships, it was never easy, sometimes impossible!
But without children you could not compare, sure the current winter storms are not making it easier for anybody, but finishing the day is either sleep or study, in country xyw, to be honest after long days not really anything else to do than sleep to wake up for next days work!
Sometimes even trying to sit 1 or 2 hours on Skype is to much of an effort, sleep wins, and not all can understand that!
Days you finish early or on standby, could be spent with people you love, your children specially, instead you spend them in ****ty room some where in xvw, for me it is lost time, time I will never get back with my family or people I love!
Life can pass fast, and that's why I think, and tell people who are not here yet, to think, what it really will be like!
I put limits on it all for me I had to find this job before 45, 2 years to get the problem with the commuting resolved!
I remember a friend of mine who before I started was based in BCN, told me how he hated the job, I thought to myself but he should have known this, prepared for this! He was prepared to quit the job for this reason!
Like many here I could or understand, 6 months later he got Stansted base, I talked to him after, and he loved the job!
Just flying the jet, will not give you the happiness you believe is there waiting for you, life is more complex than that!
Of course if you are 23 you don't care about these things, tis comes with life experience and what you expect from your life!
My limit is 2 years! The choices you make, shapes who you become!
If you or me had done some mistake, we would have been fired from our jobs, these they can destroy your life and it has no consequence for them!
Your are in other words guilty, until you can prove yourself innocent!
Funny you mention, but I have passed work both as HGV and Army Officer, and for sure the flying jobs beats all of those passed jobs, which for me was just temporary jobs anyway.
From I was 19 to 36, I travelled a lot, lived many places around the globe, so I knew the impact of having long distance relationships, it was never easy, sometimes impossible!
But without children you could not compare, sure the current winter storms are not making it easier for anybody, but finishing the day is either sleep or study, in country xyw, to be honest after long days not really anything else to do than sleep to wake up for next days work!
Sometimes even trying to sit 1 or 2 hours on Skype is to much of an effort, sleep wins, and not all can understand that!
Days you finish early or on standby, could be spent with people you love, your children specially, instead you spend them in ****ty room some where in xvw, for me it is lost time, time I will never get back with my family or people I love!
Life can pass fast, and that's why I think, and tell people who are not here yet, to think, what it really will be like!
I put limits on it all for me I had to find this job before 45, 2 years to get the problem with the commuting resolved!
I remember a friend of mine who before I started was based in BCN, told me how he hated the job, I thought to myself but he should have known this, prepared for this! He was prepared to quit the job for this reason!
Like many here I could or understand, 6 months later he got Stansted base, I talked to him after, and he loved the job!
Just flying the jet, will not give you the happiness you believe is there waiting for you, life is more complex than that!
Of course if you are 23 you don't care about these things, tis comes with life experience and what you expect from your life!
My limit is 2 years! The choices you make, shapes who you become!
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Sounds like you had a really rough time with the feds but that’s your business.
There are a couple of airlines recruiting F/Os in the UK at the moment, not sure what jet you fly and what your hours are but I believe Jet2 are looking for 737 rated with 400hrs on type and Small Planet are looking for A320 rated, 1500hrs total time and 500hrs on type.
If you haven’t got those minimums then I guess it’s just unlucky timing but it goes to show that the opportunities do exist and as you’re working as a pilot at the moment you see many more opportunities than I do on the outside looking in.
There are a couple of airlines recruiting F/Os in the UK at the moment, not sure what jet you fly and what your hours are but I believe Jet2 are looking for 737 rated with 400hrs on type and Small Planet are looking for A320 rated, 1500hrs total time and 500hrs on type.
If you haven’t got those minimums then I guess it’s just unlucky timing but it goes to show that the opportunities do exist and as you’re working as a pilot at the moment you see many more opportunities than I do on the outside looking in.
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Tf , I am almost at a loss for words as to how to describe your level of immature babbling ignorance . I could attempt a descriptive but you are not worthy of anymore of my or anyone elses time .
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maxdrypower;
Do you really think I care?
We all base our opinions on our own experience, that's why these forums mean very little, because we all believe that for "us" ("me"), it will be different!
Yesterday we had 4 very demanding flights, and after my flights my captain told me he was really happy with my performance and was impressed! Specially considering the conditions we was operating under and my prior level of experience!
Of course these are nice things to hear, at least you know you are doing a good job, I would not expect anything less from myself!
I know my values in life, you might have different, and good luck to you with them!
Do you really think I care?
We all base our opinions on our own experience, that's why these forums mean very little, because we all believe that for "us" ("me"), it will be different!
Yesterday we had 4 very demanding flights, and after my flights my captain told me he was really happy with my performance and was impressed! Specially considering the conditions we was operating under and my prior level of experience!
Of course these are nice things to hear, at least you know you are doing a good job, I would not expect anything less from myself!
I know my values in life, you might have different, and good luck to you with them!
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Still a tit
I know you dont care as you dont appear to have the intellect to realise that you should . But I'm glad the captain gave you a little gold star to stick on your jotter next to where the other boys wrote " truckflyer is a bellend"
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Why such a personal attack "maxdrypower"?
Have you not been fulfilled this week-end or this month maybe? Name calling that you start with is showing who is the immature of us!
It's not about the gold star, I could not care less! It is about attitude, processional attitude at work is what counts, either you like it or not, either it brings you misery or joy! Because some here question my attitude and capability of doing the job!
And it was good, short sectors, very short cruise time, so less time to get sleepy!
You assume that I do not appear to have intellect, because I am saying that there is more to life than flying? Or is there any other part you are referring to?
Or are you being touchy about have being a copper, well at least you was smart enough to get out, and with my copper I will have my day in court, the sad thing is that such smucks will never need to account for anything, of course as they are civil servants, so who cares?
When is it ok for police to lie to cover up for each other? Now my case happen in 2012, has not change much since Hillsborough in 1989!
I must have some intellect "maxdrypower", at least I managed to get myself one of those jet jobs!
And by the way, did I feel and sense the envy, when the police bagged my watch, and they asked the value for their paper work, and I told them it cost £7000 new!
Have you not been fulfilled this week-end or this month maybe? Name calling that you start with is showing who is the immature of us!
It's not about the gold star, I could not care less! It is about attitude, processional attitude at work is what counts, either you like it or not, either it brings you misery or joy! Because some here question my attitude and capability of doing the job!
And it was good, short sectors, very short cruise time, so less time to get sleepy!
You assume that I do not appear to have intellect, because I am saying that there is more to life than flying? Or is there any other part you are referring to?
Or are you being touchy about have being a copper, well at least you was smart enough to get out, and with my copper I will have my day in court, the sad thing is that such smucks will never need to account for anything, of course as they are civil servants, so who cares?
When is it ok for police to lie to cover up for each other? Now my case happen in 2012, has not change much since Hillsborough in 1989!
I must have some intellect "maxdrypower", at least I managed to get myself one of those jet jobs!
And by the way, did I feel and sense the envy, when the police bagged my watch, and they asked the value for their paper work, and I told them it cost £7000 new!
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You spend an awful lot of time logged on pprune for someone who claims to be always tired and is doing long tiring days as a pilot. I'd love one of the mods to pull up your log in history then people would know if you actually are an airline pilot (scary thought) or an absolute fruitcake who spouts out complete garbage about who you know and what you know and thinks every sentence has to end with an apostrophe.
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Yes nice size
Of course I did not pay that, good investment to buy second hand!
Still you could not but enjoy the envious poor coppers look when I took it back when I left, promising them follow up legal action against them!
Life is not just about work, we also must have some other enjoyment!
Of course I did not pay that, good investment to buy second hand!
Still you could not but enjoy the envious poor coppers look when I took it back when I left, promising them follow up legal action against them!
Life is not just about work, we also must have some other enjoyment!
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BAe 146;
You think? I wonder what makes you think that! Regardless where I am, there is always one or more devices connected online, as I also run an online business!
Who I know and what I know?????
What are you referring to?
I have given a field report of my experience so far, I have not claimed I am the truth and the only way!
You think? I wonder what makes you think that! Regardless where I am, there is always one or more devices connected online, as I also run an online business!
Who I know and what I know?????
What are you referring to?
I have given a field report of my experience so far, I have not claimed I am the truth and the only way!
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5 star thread
This thread could potentially beat the Weaver thread for hilarity...
I really hope you keep this thread going for your whole career and keep us posted on the 'difficulties' you face
Also your friend sounds like a bell-end too, BCN is one of the greatest places on earth!
Put simply if you wanted a more exciting flying job why didn't you go and get one? There are plenty of jobs that don't even require you to pay up 30K for a type rating to do a job you apparently don't like? The pay might not be great initially but that is offset by the fact you are 30K richer.
I just got one, and today I spent the afternoon doing circuts for my TR in sync with a Tornado...
And it was awesome
Anyway, keep up the good work Truckflyer, your ignorance makes me appreciate my life and attitude...
I really hope you keep this thread going for your whole career and keep us posted on the 'difficulties' you face
Also your friend sounds like a bell-end too, BCN is one of the greatest places on earth!
Put simply if you wanted a more exciting flying job why didn't you go and get one? There are plenty of jobs that don't even require you to pay up 30K for a type rating to do a job you apparently don't like? The pay might not be great initially but that is offset by the fact you are 30K richer.
I just got one, and today I spent the afternoon doing circuts for my TR in sync with a Tornado...
And it was awesome
Anyway, keep up the good work Truckflyer, your ignorance makes me appreciate my life and attitude...
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cgwhitemonk11 - Your ignorance is shown by the following sentence: " There are plenty of jobs" - You think there are?? 
First Weaver, the perfect example showing how useless the police are! The thread is not about the police, just a part of experience, that even if you have done nothing wrong you can get screwed!
And with regards to BCN, my friend and his wife had just had a baby, she did not want to re-locate, which is just the way life is sometimes!
He wanted to be close to his wife and newborn child, and felt that was more important than a flying career! Luckily things worked out for him, but it was just on the edge!
It's the point I am making, a 24 year old spud like you, would not be able to understand, but sure, believe you know, life experience will teach you another!
First Weaver, the perfect example showing how useless the police are! The thread is not about the police, just a part of experience, that even if you have done nothing wrong you can get screwed!
And with regards to BCN, my friend and his wife had just had a baby, she did not want to re-locate, which is just the way life is sometimes!
He wanted to be close to his wife and newborn child, and felt that was more important than a flying career! Luckily things worked out for him, but it was just on the edge!
It's the point I am making, a 24 year old spud like you, would not be able to understand, but sure, believe you know, life experience will teach you another!
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I never said there were plenty of jobs flying shiny blue 737-800's, and even fewer for people with bad attitudes but there are other jobs, like parachute flying, or turbo prop jobs...
But I digress, no point in arguing with you, I may be 24 but considering who you now work for and the experience levels they prefer initially I would guess I have several multiples of the amount of flying time you do, and have spent longer at it.... and guess what?
I ain't bored yet
Anyway best of luck with it, I just hope for your sake that by the time I decide to go to a bigger airline you aren't sitting on my left watching a movie
But I digress, no point in arguing with you, I may be 24 but considering who you now work for and the experience levels they prefer initially I would guess I have several multiples of the amount of flying time you do, and have spent longer at it.... and guess what?
I ain't bored yet
Anyway best of luck with it, I just hope for your sake that by the time I decide to go to a bigger airline you aren't sitting on my left watching a movie
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Experience is not just flying hours, life is not just about flying, you will discover that soon enough!
I startrf with aviation, first flying lesson when I was 17, PPL when I was 18 - same year I completed my Upper Secondary school
So I have been into aviation since 1987! So before you even had nappies!
It is very interesting to see the difference in priorities for experienced pilots searching for jobs and the wannabes / newbies!
But again, seems literacy is a problem on these forums, this post is not really aimed at someone who is 24, as you have whole different career plan and prospect, than somebody starting late!
And also your expectations of life quality will be different, when you get older your priority is making sure your wife/ girlfriends are happy and your children have a good and safe life!
I have live in many various places over longer periods, Villahermosa, Macau, Hong Kong, Singapore, Miami, Paris, Canaries, Alicante, Antwerpen, Brussels, Milano, Pescara to mention a few, there is nothing remotely exotic or special with BCN or any other place in Europe, that I do not already know!
I know of plenty places I would not mind to live, but there are similar plenty of places I would not live.
Your life situation from you start training to you actually have a job might change a lot, so no matter what research you have done in advance, it might not be relevant for you, when you finally get a job offer!
Relationships will always influence your choices, unless you are an egocentric Machavellist!
Experience is not just flying hours, life is not just about flying, you will discover that soon enough!
I startrf with aviation, first flying lesson when I was 17, PPL when I was 18 - same year I completed my Upper Secondary school
So I have been into aviation since 1987! So before you even had nappies!
It is very interesting to see the difference in priorities for experienced pilots searching for jobs and the wannabes / newbies!
But again, seems literacy is a problem on these forums, this post is not really aimed at someone who is 24, as you have whole different career plan and prospect, than somebody starting late!
And also your expectations of life quality will be different, when you get older your priority is making sure your wife/ girlfriends are happy and your children have a good and safe life!
I have live in many various places over longer periods, Villahermosa, Macau, Hong Kong, Singapore, Miami, Paris, Canaries, Alicante, Antwerpen, Brussels, Milano, Pescara to mention a few, there is nothing remotely exotic or special with BCN or any other place in Europe, that I do not already know!
I know of plenty places I would not mind to live, but there are similar plenty of places I would not live.
Your life situation from you start training to you actually have a job might change a lot, so no matter what research you have done in advance, it might not be relevant for you, when you finally get a job offer!
Relationships will always influence your choices, unless you are an egocentric Machavellist!
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Cgwhitemonk - I don't think it's a true reflection of the situation to say that there are plenty of turbo prop jobs out there just because most people want to fly big jets. Getting into a TP airline can be just as hard and how many TP airline operators do you know that are taking 200 hr guys when they recruit? Not many unfortunately.
Even para dropping (piston or turbine) isn't a job as you don't tend to be paid as the operators know people will do it for free to build hours. But in fact they aren't doing it for free as more often than not, they still have to pay for training and ratings on the aircraft.
You obviously have your head screwed on and have done well to bag yourself a job, so very well done. But TP jobs are still fiercely fought over and often require you to sell your granny!
Well done and enjoy your line training.
Even para dropping (piston or turbine) isn't a job as you don't tend to be paid as the operators know people will do it for free to build hours. But in fact they aren't doing it for free as more often than not, they still have to pay for training and ratings on the aircraft.
You obviously have your head screwed on and have done well to bag yourself a job, so very well done. But TP jobs are still fiercely fought over and often require you to sell your granny!
Well done and enjoy your line training.