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Half a year ago when I had my first stage of tests they warned me that I will need to pay myself, I think 100 euro with food for 2 days is quite a good deal considering the hotel prices, as example, in UK.
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Can anyone especially present FTE students please give me some essential advice.Are things at the school as bad as alot of people are saying.I am due to go over for an entrance exam but dont know anymore.
For a little more OAA seems to be a better option??They posted over 200 pilot placements for last year and in the current climate that aint bad.Fte havent revealed their placement record.
I have worked so hard for the last few years to enable me to fullfill my dream so all advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Aer lingus, Flybe etc continue to use FTE, I wonder will they continue after all the bad press.
For a little more OAA seems to be a better option??They posted over 200 pilot placements for last year and in the current climate that aint bad.Fte havent revealed their placement record.
I have worked so hard for the last few years to enable me to fullfill my dream so all advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Aer lingus, Flybe etc continue to use FTE, I wonder will they continue after all the bad press.
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As an FTE student I can honestly tell you that what your reading shows no justice, part of which is true and the remainder being totally false. Yes it's true some of the ground school instructors have left but that's what happens in life when people want to move on. Regarding students failing there exams has nothing to with the instructors leaving. Students fail exams because of a lack of studying and being too complacent thinking they will get through. It's hard work and without any effort it's difficult to pass. Prices on campus have risen recently and they are charging for tea and coffee, which in my opinion I have seen a positive outcome with new aircraft beginning to arrive. Now to the flight instructors, Fi's will leave when they see an opportunity viable to the future. It's just like when you get your first job, just because your working now does not necessarily mean your going to stay with them forever but you will look to move in the future for a better lifestyle and mostly money. All in all FTE has a lot of credibility and false posts give the school a bad image. If you have any further questions or queries feel free to post a message. 
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Hi Paul, i can assure you that FTE is nowhere near as bad as fedupinjerez is suggesting. The school is growing at a very rapid rate with more and more sponsored students from what seems new airlines every couple of months coupled with self sponsored students numbers increasing too, that is surely a good sign in itself? That along with the fact that most of us are getting very good groundschool (above 90%) and flying grades with the guys that are struggling getting all of the support that they need from more than willing instructors.
It is true that quite a few exceptionally good groundschool instructors have left recently but they have all been here over 5 years and it the cascade effect when one decided to leave, a few more decided that it was time and followed suit. The school is currently trying to replace them but its a mammoth task trying to replace such experienced staff so they are having to bring in new instructors who take some time to be trained up and bed in and when they are, they are constantly being judged against the ones that have left.
On the flying side, i agree with Fedup in that the staff are brilliant and the management are bringing in new aircraft to deal with previous problems with massive backlogs, mainly due to a very wet and unflyable winter last year and also preempting the increased demand, thus why the school is looking for more staff too. Id also like to point out that the aircraft are very reliable with the only problems tending to be very minor with the engineers always on hand to sort them out as soon as possible. Am i right Fedupinjerez that you havent actually started flying yet? so are depressed in you room doing 4 months of groundschool so desperate to fly and like to take it out on the school because of that? On the down side, the controllers are usually the problem as chris says, with only 2 aircraft in the circuit allowed at any 1 time and seville approach also very limiting on IFR flights. As for the actual flying schedule atm, it's relatively clear so if you do have problems with atc, there is enough space to rearrange it within a decent time frame but its still frustrating sometimes.
Although i dont necessarily agree with the charging of the coffee (understandable to reduce costs, the importance unfortunately shown by cabair recently, and im not saying that not serving free tea, coffee and toast is a magic solution, just an easy few bob saved!) and the increase in price of drinks (20% on everything apart from draught beer at happy hour which has risen from 60cents to 1euro 20) its still very cheap and 60cents for a beer? that's just ludicrously cheap! This is just keeping up to date with increasing costs of drinks. Even with this, the bar is buzzing on friday nights especially with people always in there during the week.
Sorry paul, i cant really help you with facts and figures about how many students have got jobs through FTE in the past year but i know plenty of past students with jobs already. I would definitely recommend FTE to anybody who was interested in it. Theres nothing better than being able to take a break from studying by laying by the pool with a very cold drink while the temperature is 35degrees plus! Hope this has helped
It is true that quite a few exceptionally good groundschool instructors have left recently but they have all been here over 5 years and it the cascade effect when one decided to leave, a few more decided that it was time and followed suit. The school is currently trying to replace them but its a mammoth task trying to replace such experienced staff so they are having to bring in new instructors who take some time to be trained up and bed in and when they are, they are constantly being judged against the ones that have left.
On the flying side, i agree with Fedup in that the staff are brilliant and the management are bringing in new aircraft to deal with previous problems with massive backlogs, mainly due to a very wet and unflyable winter last year and also preempting the increased demand, thus why the school is looking for more staff too. Id also like to point out that the aircraft are very reliable with the only problems tending to be very minor with the engineers always on hand to sort them out as soon as possible. Am i right Fedupinjerez that you havent actually started flying yet? so are depressed in you room doing 4 months of groundschool so desperate to fly and like to take it out on the school because of that? On the down side, the controllers are usually the problem as chris says, with only 2 aircraft in the circuit allowed at any 1 time and seville approach also very limiting on IFR flights. As for the actual flying schedule atm, it's relatively clear so if you do have problems with atc, there is enough space to rearrange it within a decent time frame but its still frustrating sometimes.
Although i dont necessarily agree with the charging of the coffee (understandable to reduce costs, the importance unfortunately shown by cabair recently, and im not saying that not serving free tea, coffee and toast is a magic solution, just an easy few bob saved!) and the increase in price of drinks (20% on everything apart from draught beer at happy hour which has risen from 60cents to 1euro 20) its still very cheap and 60cents for a beer? that's just ludicrously cheap! This is just keeping up to date with increasing costs of drinks. Even with this, the bar is buzzing on friday nights especially with people always in there during the week.
Sorry paul, i cant really help you with facts and figures about how many students have got jobs through FTE in the past year but i know plenty of past students with jobs already. I would definitely recommend FTE to anybody who was interested in it. Theres nothing better than being able to take a break from studying by laying by the pool with a very cold drink while the temperature is 35degrees plus! Hope this has helped
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Thanks guys for getting back to me.Still concerns me to hear that students are having to study bristol ground school notation at present.For the best part of 100,000 euro you should expect the best of everything.
Is there many students failing at present?And if you are delayed in your training due to no fault of your own ie. having to wait for available aircraft etc, then who picks up the tab for your extra time needed at FTE.
Is there many students failing at present?And if you are delayed in your training due to no fault of your own ie. having to wait for available aircraft etc, then who picks up the tab for your extra time needed at FTE.
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Does anyone else think its a rather large co-incidence that "ftestudent" and "happyinjerez" both have a single post to their names, having joined in the last 4 days? I rather suspect the school management have decided to intervene in this debate. That's fine but lets call a spade a spade shall we?
Setting that aside for a moment, when I was a student at Jerez (many years ago) it was a fantastic place to be. Fab location, fab weather, fab instructors for the most part and I never had a problem with the engineering, reliability was good.
However, none of the above is even slightly important. The ONLY thing that matters is this: where will the job come from at the end of the training? If you are considering self sponsoring an ATPL course you should absolutely INSIST on seeing the statistics for the last year ... in other words, where have self sponsored cadets found work? It is entirely irrelevant that sponsored training is ongoing since this will not help you in the slightest if you are self-sponsored. You can have the best time of your life out there for 18 months, but it will pale into insignificance if you can't find a job at the end of it.
FTE used to have very good links to the airlines. Setting aside those going through a sponsored course, I'd be very interested to know which airlines FTE now recommends self-sponsored students to, and to what effect. Airlines that used to accept recommendations but longer do include British Airways, Thompson and GB Airways (no longer exists) amongst others.
I suspect you may still stand a chance with Flybe or Aer Lingus. You can, of course, apply to Ryanair but do not confuse that with FTE helping you out. A ryanair application is entirely of your own making and will cost you another £30k for a type rating etc.
If you're a sponsored student, you've got nothing to worry about (except passing of course) - enjoy the sunshine and the cheap beer. If you're self sponsored, make sure you know whats waiting for you at the end.
Setting that aside for a moment, when I was a student at Jerez (many years ago) it was a fantastic place to be. Fab location, fab weather, fab instructors for the most part and I never had a problem with the engineering, reliability was good.
However, none of the above is even slightly important. The ONLY thing that matters is this: where will the job come from at the end of the training? If you are considering self sponsoring an ATPL course you should absolutely INSIST on seeing the statistics for the last year ... in other words, where have self sponsored cadets found work? It is entirely irrelevant that sponsored training is ongoing since this will not help you in the slightest if you are self-sponsored. You can have the best time of your life out there for 18 months, but it will pale into insignificance if you can't find a job at the end of it.
FTE used to have very good links to the airlines. Setting aside those going through a sponsored course, I'd be very interested to know which airlines FTE now recommends self-sponsored students to, and to what effect. Airlines that used to accept recommendations but longer do include British Airways, Thompson and GB Airways (no longer exists) amongst others.
I suspect you may still stand a chance with Flybe or Aer Lingus. You can, of course, apply to Ryanair but do not confuse that with FTE helping you out. A ryanair application is entirely of your own making and will cost you another £30k for a type rating etc.
If you're a sponsored student, you've got nothing to worry about (except passing of course) - enjoy the sunshine and the cheap beer. If you're self sponsored, make sure you know whats waiting for you at the end.
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Absolutely agree with veetwo about the suspicion raised by the two posts. And also as veetwo said it is very important to get the statistics from them for the last year and if they hesitate to provide them, it should be enough to reconsider the option of studying there and apply for something like OAA.
As I see FTEJerez is becoming now the school for sponsored students (at least now, since there are not many sponsorships going on at the moment) and it raises doubts in me about wether to choose this school. Although at our University we had presentation whereas they mensioned that they have a queue of students to whom they are trying to provide a job. Also I received some positive response from FTEJerez grads, although they graduated years ago.
What I am doing and would suggest you to do is to go there and after finishing the assessment successfully ask them as many questions as you can accenting on the self-sponsored students employment.
As I see FTEJerez is becoming now the school for sponsored students (at least now, since there are not many sponsorships going on at the moment) and it raises doubts in me about wether to choose this school. Although at our University we had presentation whereas they mensioned that they have a queue of students to whom they are trying to provide a job. Also I received some positive response from FTEJerez grads, although they graduated years ago.
What I am doing and would suggest you to do is to go there and after finishing the assessment successfully ask them as many questions as you can accenting on the self-sponsored students employment.
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" Does anyone else think its a rather large co-incidence that "ftestudent" and "happyinjerez" both have a single post to their names.......... "
Flyergirl1985 has two posts and fedupinjerez has one, so what ?
Flyergirl1985 has two posts and fedupinjerez has one, so what ?
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I have a friend from uni who went to FTE, and he told me now that he has finished he literally has no contact with them anymore. They do not help you get a job. The 1 interview he got was Ryanair I think and didn't get it, so now doesn't really have any other options for airlines right now with £1000 a month to pay off for 7 years.
edit: i should say that the Ryanair interview was gotten off his own back, as I said they don't even try to get you a job. They are just an FTO, you get your licences with them and that's it. Nothing wrong with that, just not an option I would take.
edit: i should say that the Ryanair interview was gotten off his own back, as I said they don't even try to get you a job. They are just an FTO, you get your licences with them and that's it. Nothing wrong with that, just not an option I would take.
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I think the majority of people will think it is slightly strange, that's all I'm pointing out. It looks like someone saw the thread and panicked. But then I've always been a cynic, I could be wrong.
FTE in 2012 strikes me as a place which is fantastic for sponsored students who have already passed an airline selection. I'd heartily recommend it for people in this camp as it's a great place to study. It is popular with the airlines too. BA, Qatar, EK, MEA and Aer Lingus are all sending their cadets there.
However as I said before, that is completely irrelevant if you join FTE as an untagged, self-sponsored student. What would be useful is if someone in the know posted the actual stats on the number of self-sponsored students who have found employment in the last year, together with the total number who trained. This used to be the kind of information that FTO's would scream from the rooftops to attract new business. The fact FTE isn't sharing that information anymore strikes me as ominous.
I think the majority of people will think it is slightly strange, that's all I'm pointing out. It looks like someone saw the thread and panicked. But then I've always been a cynic, I could be wrong.
FTE in 2012 strikes me as a place which is fantastic for sponsored students who have already passed an airline selection. I'd heartily recommend it for people in this camp as it's a great place to study. It is popular with the airlines too. BA, Qatar, EK, MEA and Aer Lingus are all sending their cadets there.
However as I said before, that is completely irrelevant if you join FTE as an untagged, self-sponsored student. What would be useful is if someone in the know posted the actual stats on the number of self-sponsored students who have found employment in the last year, together with the total number who trained. This used to be the kind of information that FTO's would scream from the rooftops to attract new business. The fact FTE isn't sharing that information anymore strikes me as ominous.
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Hmm..
I'm also thinking of going to FTE this year but I'm still not sure. The price and accommodation, everything is supplied for a cheaper price then compared to OAA and CTC.
However, I would like to know how many FTE grads go and get a job...
CTC is slowly creeping on me as I now feel job opportunities are much higher in getting a job than compared to FTE.
Someone help me decide....
I'm also thinking of going to FTE this year but I'm still not sure. The price and accommodation, everything is supplied for a cheaper price then compared to OAA and CTC.
However, I would like to know how many FTE grads go and get a job...
CTC is slowly creeping on me as I now feel job opportunities are much higher in getting a job than compared to FTE.
Someone help me decide....
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veetwo, did you read what i posted above?
They don't help you find a job.....so there is no need for them to talk about this information. Any jobs the people have found has been from their own back, but everyone knows that there isn't really any airline hiring people straight from an integrated school unless you are on a scheme like you said or you are at CTC.
They don't help you find a job.....so there is no need for them to talk about this information. Any jobs the people have found has been from their own back, but everyone knows that there isn't really any airline hiring people straight from an integrated school unless you are on a scheme like you said or you are at CTC.
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You know that and I know that. My point was to highlight it to anyone reading this thread who is considering starting training at FTE. Doubtless the school itself will have told them, "Oh yes, we'll certainly help you get a job at the end of your training". Its worthwhile pointing out that these days that is a largely meaningless statement.
We're both making the same point... so lets move on.
You know that and I know that. My point was to highlight it to anyone reading this thread who is considering starting training at FTE. Doubtless the school itself will have told them, "Oh yes, we'll certainly help you get a job at the end of your training". Its worthwhile pointing out that these days that is a largely meaningless statement.
We're both making the same point... so lets move on.
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The fact is that in their brochure they stated that they help graduates with the job search. And since you stated that they don't keep contacts with you after graduation that's quite a shame.
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FTE in 2012 strikes me as a place which is fantastic for sponsored students who have already passed an airline selection. I'd heartily recommend it for people in this camp as it's a great place to study. It is popular with the airlines too. BA, Qatar, EK, MEA and Aer Lingus are all sending their cadets there.
I just can't quite fathom why anyone would now decide to undertake self-sponsored training knowing that in order to get a job they may have to spend at least £117,000 to become a contractor in a random European base with no fixed salary and no security. I can assure you that the loan repayments are fixed and have to be paid regardless of how many hours you flew that month. (On that note, I wouldn't be handing over large amounts of money to CTC to become an easyjet flexicrew contractor either)
That all of course assumes that you managed to get a first flying job and were not cast by the wayside after leaving flying school.
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evening all,
Is there any more updates on FTE has anyone heard regarding their staff crisis and quality decline in training??
Appreciate any present students that could shed some light,feel free to pm me if you prefer.
Is there any more updates on FTE has anyone heard regarding their staff crisis and quality decline in training??
Appreciate any present students that could shed some light,feel free to pm me if you prefer.
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Interesting,
Even though many airlines come to FTE for cadets, where do the non sponsored cadets go?
I've seen some posts where people are saying that FTE don't even contact you when you've finished training, or help you in that matter.
I really want to join FTE because I just love the idea that you train in one place and all services are given. Less hassle for the cadet.
And even though CTC have their cadet scheme, all I see is every graduate going onto EJ flexicrew.
I don't know.
I'm also interested themerve if you are currently employed into an airline?
Even though many airlines come to FTE for cadets, where do the non sponsored cadets go?
I've seen some posts where people are saying that FTE don't even contact you when you've finished training, or help you in that matter.
I really want to join FTE because I just love the idea that you train in one place and all services are given. Less hassle for the cadet.
And even though CTC have their cadet scheme, all I see is every graduate going onto EJ flexicrew.
I don't know.
I'm also interested themerve if you are currently employed into an airline?
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How long after you graduated did you obtain employment,and with who if you dont mind me asking.you have given a very honest account of FTE so thanks for that, but as you said,they are there to train you and thats what they do,although for 100 000 euro a little help regarding employment would be good.