FTE Jerez (Merged 2010 onwards)
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i can say from speaking to an Aer Lingus recruitment officer and captain that their view when looking through cv s is that the integrated option is a more favourable advantage and preferable. I have great respect for people however who can hold down a job and train at the same time, there is no way id be able to, guess im just not that smart ha!
the integrated option is a more favourable advantage and preferable. I have great respect for people however who can hold down a job and train at the same time,
Some people go modular just because they want to spend 20-30K less!
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anyone know of anything on the internet or any software to help practice for the pilapt tests, have seen small bits advertised on the internet but am doubtful as to how accurate they are!
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Hi everyone, I am looking into going for pilot training and is quite interested in FTEJerez. However, I do not qualify for their anyone of their airline programme as I do not meet the citizenship requirement they have. I want to go on with my self sponsored training. But I am afraid that find an employment would be difficult If i an not mentored/sponsored by an airline.
So If I go on with my training with FTE, what are the chances of getting an employment on completion of my training. Does FTE help its student to find a Job?
So If I go on with my training with FTE, what are the chances of getting an employment on completion of my training. Does FTE help its student to find a Job?
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I've just been out to FTE to meet them regarding the integrated course. They are quite busy, not possible to get on a course in the next few months, a slight waiting list probably due to the BA guys. They have said that they will help to find you a job (by recommending you to airlines - conditional on you doing very well with your ATPL exams, first time, good passes.
Any comments on this from people who have been at FTE through the self sponsored route? Where have you ended up?
Thanks
Any comments on this from people who have been at FTE through the self sponsored route? Where have you ended up?
Thanks
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hey guys,
I have been hearing some pritty bad feedback as regards FTE and how their standards are slipping,was due to head over for an apptitude test in a few weeks,has any1 heard anything??
I have been hearing some pritty bad feedback as regards FTE and how their standards are slipping,was due to head over for an apptitude test in a few weeks,has any1 heard anything??
They said lots of the best groundschool instructors walked out including the standards manager over some dispute and that now FTE are left with part-time contractors, so lots of students are failing and the ones that are passing are using Bristol Groundschool online!! They also said a lot of the flying instructors are now leaving as well because the aircraft are falling apart with frequent cancellations and everyone is having to work crazy hours with students flying 6 days a week up until 11pm. They also said most students are there at least a month longer than they should be because of flying delays and that FTE try charging them for it saying it is their fault!
It doesn't sound good to me, I am still looking at FTE but may choose OAA or CTC instead because I don't want to complete the course with a school that is getting a bad name.
Has anyone else heard about these recent things?
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I recently attended the Flybe/FTE MPL scheme. It was the phase 3 component which is essentially FTE's standard selection process - 4 written tests, PILAPT and interview.
Unfortunately, I wasn't picked by Flybe to attend the final phase but got an offer from FTE to join them on their self-funded ATPL course as I passed all the components of selection and deemed 'low risk' for training (that's what the lady said the top category was on the day).
Having done research for many years, I understand that CTC has pilots going through flexi-crew and OAA has Parc Aviation which place many pilots. What is FTE's current record in placing self-sponsored students? I see they have a respectable number of partner airlines but many of them select their own cadets, send them to FTE and then take them back after training is completed. Examples are Aer Lingus (got the last stage for the 2011 cadet scheme. Their cadets go through FTE) and Flybe is another.
I'm in my 3rd year of an AeroEng degree so I still have plenty time on my side before I did anything like this.
If anyone has any information on FTE's placement record it would be very handy, can't seem to find any on their website.
Unfortunately, I wasn't picked by Flybe to attend the final phase but got an offer from FTE to join them on their self-funded ATPL course as I passed all the components of selection and deemed 'low risk' for training (that's what the lady said the top category was on the day).
Having done research for many years, I understand that CTC has pilots going through flexi-crew and OAA has Parc Aviation which place many pilots. What is FTE's current record in placing self-sponsored students? I see they have a respectable number of partner airlines but many of them select their own cadets, send them to FTE and then take them back after training is completed. Examples are Aer Lingus (got the last stage for the 2011 cadet scheme. Their cadets go through FTE) and Flybe is another.
I'm in my 3rd year of an AeroEng degree so I still have plenty time on my side before I did anything like this.
If anyone has any information on FTE's placement record it would be very handy, can't seem to find any on their website.
A 'contact' of mine works at FTE. He/she said that the new management are not doing the place justice. The exact phrase was along the lines of them running the place into the ground. Lots of instructors are leaving, some of which have been there for donkeys years.
Simple things such as free tea and coffee for the students have disappeared and the most important thing, the price of the beer, has gone through the roof!
It's a shame because FTE has the potential to be a truly fantastic school, fingers crossed the new management don't do the place too much damage. If you have unhappy instructors you have unhappy students, and the most important thing (the quality of training) becomes compromised.
S88
Simple things such as free tea and coffee for the students have disappeared and the most important thing, the price of the beer, has gone through the roof!
It's a shame because FTE has the potential to be a truly fantastic school, fingers crossed the new management don't do the place too much damage. If you have unhappy instructors you have unhappy students, and the most important thing (the quality of training) becomes compromised.
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As a self sponsored student at FTE you are on your own in finding a job. FTE MAY recommend you to an airline IF they have any vacancies but that is it. They will only help you once and then you are left on your own. No amount of emails/telephone calls will get them to help you again. I don't know the figures for placements but I know for a fact that some self sponsored students from over three years ago still don't have a flying job and of those that do have jobs not many came through FTE.
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Hi chaps,
I am interested to hear from current FTE students or indeed graduates with regard to the living costs you experienced during your time in Jerez.
I understand that accommodation and full board catering is included in the initial cost.
So, as far a budgeting goes what did you find yourself spending each week/month and on what?
Many many thanks.
I am interested to hear from current FTE students or indeed graduates with regard to the living costs you experienced during your time in Jerez.
I understand that accommodation and full board catering is included in the initial cost.
So, as far a budgeting goes what did you find yourself spending each week/month and on what?
Many many thanks.
Join Date: Feb 2012
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What you say is true and it is getting worse by the day. Ground School is falling apart. The Managing Director does not seem to understand and the Head of Training will not listen to anyone.
Flying keeps going because the top few Instructors are brilliant and really do care, but they get no thanks and lots of hassle from everyone. And yes, I do know, I am in my room now studying Bristol Ground School. The MD's solution is to charge his staff for coffee!
What you say is true and it is getting worse by the day. Ground School is falling apart. The Managing Director does not seem to understand and the Head of Training will not listen to anyone.
Flying keeps going because the top few Instructors are brilliant and really do care, but they get no thanks and lots of hassle from everyone. And yes, I do know, I am in my room now studying Bristol Ground School. The MD's solution is to charge his staff for coffee!
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Some of the difficulties regarding the training are down to the airport in Jerez and ATC in the form of Seville Approach.
They dont like to handle more than one IFR training flight at a time so one can wait several hours to do a detail.
I was at another school in Jerez waiting to do a test and engine start was delayed nearly 5 hours as engine start was not allowed until a preceding IFR tarining aircraft had landed.
So anyone going to Jerez would we well prepared to ask questions about about this sort of hassle. It throws training schedules out and I would not be surprised if extra time is needed to complete the flying part of the course.
As to anything else going on in FTE I cannot comment.
They dont like to handle more than one IFR training flight at a time so one can wait several hours to do a detail.
I was at another school in Jerez waiting to do a test and engine start was delayed nearly 5 hours as engine start was not allowed until a preceding IFR tarining aircraft had landed.
So anyone going to Jerez would we well prepared to ask questions about about this sort of hassle. It throws training schedules out and I would not be surprised if extra time is needed to complete the flying part of the course.
As to anything else going on in FTE I cannot comment.
Re post #56 and 'the aircraft are falling apart':
I'd be very surprised if this so. When I worked in the hangar there, the aircraft were over-maintained, if anything, with tyres/brakes/sparkplugs etc being replaced long before they were due. The certifying staff always kept the standards at a high level and I never saw any consistent unreliability with fleet aircraft in the two years I was there.
It would be interesting to hear what constitutes 'aircraft falling apart' as opposed to the occasional unserviceability that is bound to happen during heavy utilisation.
I'd be very surprised if this so. When I worked in the hangar there, the aircraft were over-maintained, if anything, with tyres/brakes/sparkplugs etc being replaced long before they were due. The certifying staff always kept the standards at a high level and I never saw any consistent unreliability with fleet aircraft in the two years I was there.
It would be interesting to hear what constitutes 'aircraft falling apart' as opposed to the occasional unserviceability that is bound to happen during heavy utilisation.
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Hey guys,
After readin all these, just made me scared
is it actually getting that bad that students can't pass exams on first try? Isn't failing the first try=no first job? Which, obviously leads to no airline job ever.
I am booked to have the last interview with them quite soon, but now that made me worried and look again on the opportunities of OAA (people who finished it reviewed it badly) and CTC.
Jerez bought me with the fact that Ground School is taught by permanently assigned teachers who are concentrated on teaching only their topic and with the fact that they use only 2 students per instructor for flights, also with the everything in one location fact.
Is it getting that bad there that the first two things disapeared?
Also I was explained that FTE are trying to get you into your first job, along with amazing (as review) preparation for the simulator assessment and CV help. If you were one of the best they put you in front of the queue for the available jobs, this is what I heard, will ask them more during the interview.
So any more comments on FTE?
After readin all these, just made me scared
is it actually getting that bad that students can't pass exams on first try? Isn't failing the first try=no first job? Which, obviously leads to no airline job ever.I am booked to have the last interview with them quite soon, but now that made me worried and look again on the opportunities of OAA (people who finished it reviewed it badly) and CTC.
Jerez bought me with the fact that Ground School is taught by permanently assigned teachers who are concentrated on teaching only their topic and with the fact that they use only 2 students per instructor for flights, also with the everything in one location fact.
Is it getting that bad there that the first two things disapeared?
Also I was explained that FTE are trying to get you into your first job, along with amazing (as review) preparation for the simulator assessment and CV help. If you were one of the best they put you in front of the queue for the available jobs, this is what I heard, will ask them more during the interview.
So any more comments on FTE?
