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hi guys i am monty
i want to be commercial pilot i started my PPL flying training in august 2009 till sep 2010 i only flew didn't do any exams from oct 10 i am doing my exams recently i failed my nav twice passed third time with 92% and today i failed my aircraft general principle for second time:
. this situation is forcing me to rethink my goals about wether i should continue in flying or finish PPL and venture in different career path as failed two of my exams doesn't look good for aspiring commercial pilot.
have any of you guys been in that situation? do you think i shall continue toward commercial pilot or leave at ppl?
thanks:
P.s my flying training is part time , i am also doing school, part time work and FT
i want to be commercial pilot i started my PPL flying training in august 2009 till sep 2010 i only flew didn't do any exams from oct 10 i am doing my exams recently i failed my nav twice passed third time with 92% and today i failed my aircraft general principle for second time:
. this situation is forcing me to rethink my goals about wether i should continue in flying or finish PPL and venture in different career path as failed two of my exams doesn't look good for aspiring commercial pilot.have any of you guys been in that situation? do you think i shall continue toward commercial pilot or leave at ppl?
thanks:
P.s my flying training is part time , i am also doing school, part time work and FT
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Keep plugging away mate, If its want you want to do keep working at it.
Have you tried using the confuser or an online question bank to assist in getting you ready for the exams?
Have you tried using the confuser or an online question bank to assist in getting you ready for the exams?
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socal app thank-you for replying but i must inform you that i also had sixth form to take care of which you may know requires plenty of work due to which i got tired of studies and wanted rest. Not a perfect excuse but in my age i did found hard to cope on both fronts.
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I'm pretty hammered right now, but it sounds (in my head) from your posts like English isn't your first langauge? If this is the case don't be too hard on yourself, and maybe see if you can take an English course, or just give yourself extra time for each exam. PPL exams are not difficult and there is no time restriction on how you study for each exam. The ATPL is slightly different and you may struggle with it, so look into gaining a better understanding of English.
If however you are English and think that posting the way you did is completely fine, it's quite likely that the PPL is as far as you can go at the moment!
If however you are English and think that posting the way you did is completely fine, it's quite likely that the PPL is as far as you can go at the moment!
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You should be commended doing all the work that do. But PPL exams should be pretty straight forward pieces of work to knock off in your spare time, given a little effort. So if English is not your first language, spend time on that before moving on. If it is your first language, reconsider your plans.
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Its quite understandable you may have failed them and you are struggling..... it depends your technique for learning and what you are learning.....
You cannot simply read the Trevor Thom book for that subject like you would a fiction book, and expect your brain to remember it all. After all, you remember something like 5% of what you read.. If you read it twice this figure goes up to about 10%. Write things out, and it goes to 20%. Re read what you have written and brain storm yourself, and its up to about 40%. (Or something like that)
What i mean though, is ... there is so much other unimportant information in the books...you just need to focus in on particular areas of the books where the questions come from, and once you have done a few practise questions you will tend to do this automatically.
But i guess you are reading the books like you would a story book and then going on to do exams..
Instead, maybe write down the MAJOR points and make your own practise questions up and quiz yourself on what you have learnt.
The ''PPL confuser'' book is very good. You'll be fine! good luck
You cannot simply read the Trevor Thom book for that subject like you would a fiction book, and expect your brain to remember it all. After all, you remember something like 5% of what you read.. If you read it twice this figure goes up to about 10%. Write things out, and it goes to 20%. Re read what you have written and brain storm yourself, and its up to about 40%. (Or something like that)
What i mean though, is ... there is so much other unimportant information in the books...you just need to focus in on particular areas of the books where the questions come from, and once you have done a few practise questions you will tend to do this automatically.
But i guess you are reading the books like you would a story book and then going on to do exams..
Instead, maybe write down the MAJOR points and make your own practise questions up and quiz yourself on what you have learnt.
The ''PPL confuser'' book is very good. You'll be fine! good luck
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PPL exams are a walk in the park. The ATPLs are the exams which will really test you. Buy the PPL Confuser and practice some JAA questions and you should be ready for the exams.
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ATPL will be much much much harder.
Nothing stoping you from become a pilot. But you should prepare to put down a lot of work in it.
As well, try to find a good instructor, that may help you a lot.
My final advise, use online question banks. BUT don't use them to memorise question, but rather to test your self.
Memorising question may work for PPL, IR and even com., but not for ATPL.
good luck mate!
Nothing stoping you from become a pilot. But you should prepare to put down a lot of work in it.
As well, try to find a good instructor, that may help you a lot.
My final advise, use online question banks. BUT don't use them to memorise question, but rather to test your self.
Memorising question may work for PPL, IR and even com., but not for ATPL.
good luck mate!
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but i must inform you that i also had sixth form to take care of which you may know requires plenty of work due to which i got tired of studies and wanted rest. Not a perfect excuse but in my age i did found hard to cope on both fronts.
Why put that pressure on your self - you've got plenty of time to get your PPL and better to do it when you're less stressed with A Levels and school.
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you don't seem to be a serious chap.
most guys I know pass PPL first time.
I think it' s time to change hobby or your attitude.
stop beer, girls, and go back to study!
most guys I know pass PPL first time.
I think it' s time to change hobby or your attitude.
stop beer, girls, and go back to study!
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Dont go into it thinking that ATPL exams are easier, they are not! However when you study ATPLs you tend to do much much more study not to mention classroom preparation than you do for the PPL so it may seem easier.
You are doing school study and have lots on at the moment that doesn't help. Don't worry about it with study and perseverance you will pass. And in all honesty 90% of the stuff you learn for the ATPL exams you don't need.
You are doing school study and have lots on at the moment that doesn't help. Don't worry about it with study and perseverance you will pass. And in all honesty 90% of the stuff you learn for the ATPL exams you don't need.
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i know a guy who basically failed nearly all his atpls , i think he had to resit all 14 again as he failed 1 subject 4 times , went on to fail his cpl test had to do a full flight test again, went on to fail his meir also and do a full flight test again and got a job with ryanair during the summer and passed the type rating coarse. does this make your situation look a lot more hopefull?
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i know a guy who basically failed nearly all his atpls , i think he had to resit all 14 again as he failed 1 subject 4 times , went on to fail his cpl test had to do a full flight test again, went on to fail his meir also and do a full flight test again and got a job with ryanair during the summer and passed the type rating coarse. does this make your situation look a lot more hopefull?
AndoniP if you fail a PPL exam 3 times, you don't have to visit the CAA etc.
What your flight school will have to do is contact the CAA, as there are only ever 3 different exams published for each topic. So if you fail 3, you've taken all of them, and the CAA will send out a 4th as a one off.
What your flight school will have to do is contact the CAA, as there are only ever 3 different exams published for each topic. So if you fail 3, you've taken all of them, and the CAA will send out a 4th as a one off.
If English is your first language, I'd try and get a dyslexia assessment - this may be at the root of more than one problem.
Many dyslexics have got degrees or professional flying licences - but not without the aid of appropriate learning aids or strategies.
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Many dyslexics have got degrees or professional flying licences - but not without the aid of appropriate learning aids or strategies.
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I think you might rethink your goals instead!
Don't get me wrong, don't want to discourage you, but is it flying you really want to do?
Or is it something you think sounds cool for your friends?
Because to be honest, doing other school work is not a good excuse, aviation at this time/level should be your number one hobby, it should be fun. You should love every minute of it now.
If not, it is not for you, that is the blunt answer.
I studied for my A-levels and doing my PPL at the same time, first time around I had to do all my PPL exams in one day (in Norway), and if did not pass that day, I would have to come back to redo in 3 or 4 months.
So it is feasible.
20 years later, to be able to start my ATPL's, I had to redo all my PPL's in 2 months, having a new born baby, a business - a bit easier, because was only one exam at a time, spent 1 week to prepare for each exam.
What you have to do, is to have a good look at yourself, and ask yourself if you have the passion for this as you should have before you commence further on your journey!
The ATPL's will be very much harder, so if you struggle with basic PPL find out why. Could it be that you simply lack motivation, or you think that becoming a pilot is cool job, becoming a pilot is not a job, it is a passion and lifestyle! For better and for worse!
Don't get me wrong, don't want to discourage you, but is it flying you really want to do?
Or is it something you think sounds cool for your friends?
Because to be honest, doing other school work is not a good excuse, aviation at this time/level should be your number one hobby, it should be fun. You should love every minute of it now.
If not, it is not for you, that is the blunt answer.
I studied for my A-levels and doing my PPL at the same time, first time around I had to do all my PPL exams in one day (in Norway), and if did not pass that day, I would have to come back to redo in 3 or 4 months.
So it is feasible.
20 years later, to be able to start my ATPL's, I had to redo all my PPL's in 2 months, having a new born baby, a business - a bit easier, because was only one exam at a time, spent 1 week to prepare for each exam.
What you have to do, is to have a good look at yourself, and ask yourself if you have the passion for this as you should have before you commence further on your journey!
The ATPL's will be very much harder, so if you struggle with basic PPL find out why. Could it be that you simply lack motivation, or you think that becoming a pilot is cool job, becoming a pilot is not a job, it is a passion and lifestyle! For better and for worse!
i want to be commercial pilot i started my PPL flying training in august 2009 till sep 2010 i only flew didn't do any exams from oct 10 i am doing my exams recently i failed my nav twice passed third time with 92% and today i failed my aircraft general principle for second time:
. this situation is forcing me to rethink my goals about wether i should continue in flying or finish PPL and venture in different career path as failed two of my exams doesn't look good for aspiring commercial pilot.
have any of you guys been in that situation? do you think i shall continue toward commercial pilot or leave at ppl?
. this situation is forcing me to rethink my goals about wether i should continue in flying or finish PPL and venture in different career path as failed two of my exams doesn't look good for aspiring commercial pilot.have any of you guys been in that situation? do you think i shall continue toward commercial pilot or leave at ppl?
I know people with good honours degrees who write like this.
I have no desire for no-hopers to be airline pilots.
a retired professional pilot
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Good one! There are to many who thinks it's cool becoming a pilot, and think it is just like any other job!
I believe being a pilot is a lifestyle, it is not just a job can clock in and out of!
I hope I get the chance!
