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The perpetual 'Am I too old?' thread

Old 4th Aug 2020, 16:29
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If you want it to happen you will make it happen - age is just a number! You could start at 45 and still have a 20 year career. You can't guarantee that you will get a job, you can only guarantee that you won't - by not getting the licence in the first place.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 16:53
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Always found flying with the guys who had a life before aviation much more enjoyable, they bought life experience and didnít have, for want of a better word, the rigidity of the books.
i think a lot of the problem for the oldies who now want to join is the training ainít the same and they have to pay!
when I joined an airline I was late 30s, the training was just that, training, canít remember details but sake of argument. 3 week groundschool and 15 sims.plus the company paid.
towards the end of career changing jobs it was study on your own and 9 sims. That with being old made the conversion not enjoyable and for those that do the recruiting it ainít good for their bonus when someone fails.
with that, Covid and the fast dwindling terms, wages etc if I was doing it now at the age I was I wouldnít.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 04:32
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Yeah ok then, let’s just plow on blindly, because I want it to happen, it will happen.... The reality is, is that it ain’t gonna happen. He’s making a sensible decision IMO. The odds are massively stacked against type rated pilots, never mind newbies.

Save your cash and your sanity.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 05:01
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Read the title of the thread mate. The question isn't should I become a pilot right now? - it's should I become a pilot at my age?
I agree, it's not the best time right now. But as long as people exist and the airplanes exist then airlines will eventually be short of pilots. The only way to catch the wave when it comes it's to be ready and waiting which is why anyone in their right mind who's looking into flight training at the moment will aim for a CPL/SEIR and then sit on their hands, having spent the bare minimum to get 4 weeks from the finish line.
IMO giving up on a dream leads to a lifetime of regret.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 07:17
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
airlines will eventually be short of pilots.
I canít see this ageing well to be honest. As we all know, airlines have never been short of pilots. Add the thousands of redundant/soon to be redundant type rated pilots to the constant stream of wannabes, I rest my case. We all know of the ones who have already been caught in the cross-fire, medium jet captains driving delivery vehicles and stacking shelves. Turbo prop pilots sat there with useless ratings, expats from the Far East/sand pit etc. Enjoy flying for fun, forget commercial aviation, save your money instead of pursuing a dead end outcome. We all know GA is the best fun, stick to light aircraft.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 08:26
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
If you want it to happen you will make it happen - age is just a number! You could start at 45 and still have a 20 year career. You can't guarantee that you will get a job, you can only guarantee that you won't - by not getting the licence in the first place.
The present tsunami has severely knocked potential junior birdmen off course for five years perhaps.

Rudestuff is quite right..’if you want it to happen you will make it happen.’

Those who reckon that they have past their “tipping point” age, then private flying beckons. Enjoy it.

For those who feel that their time will come, it will.

As I tell those students self funding/modular, the analogy is a bit like joining the Church, you need to believe in GOD.
You have probably wanted to from the age of say ten.
“Plane daft”. Nothing else as a way of life.

And for those who succeed it is “better than having to work for a living”.

Those who think of joining for “the status”( parents who force their kids into medicine) or “the money”, go instead and join a hedge fund as a worker. Cheaper for the Bank of Mum & Dad.

These, in my view, are the acidic tests to be achieved.
As has been pointed out “age is just a number”
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 09:08
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Thank you all for your personal opinion and experiences ... eventually, it comes down to the individual to make the decision... I will have another thought about it during the
holidays. I could continue modular as I already have my ppl and enough savings.

PPL doesn't satisfy me as I keep looking up even from 1500 ft! Who knows what the world will look like in 4-5 years - one thing is for sure people will continue to fly and pilots will be needed....
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:35
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Look, I wouldn't in good conscience encourage someone into aviation on a whim. The last time there were this few pilot jobs it was 1902.
But if someone has a dream, then I'll fan the flames beside there's nothing more demoralising than giving up on a dream and living a life of regret.
It won't be easy or cheap, but ​​​​​​ IF you're good enough and IF you want it enough you will get a job. There are only 2 things that can stop that:
1: giving up
2: reaching 65
(If you read some of the previous posts you'll see just how prevalent no 1 is.)

Getting the licence is the easy bit. Getting the first job is the hard bit. There won't be much hiring any time soon which is why you should be prepared to mark time if necessary, or move at the drop off a hat: but at some point there will be jobs. The conveyor belt of age and illness never stops. 3 or 4% of pilots retire or lose their medicals every year.

When the hiring starts you need to stand out from the crowd: Just sending CVs won't do you any favours. You need to network. Meet people. Make friends. Pilots hand in CVs for their friends. They vouch for them etc. Join an airline in a non flying role of necessary, whatever gets you close to the decision makers. Think outside the box.

The best time to introduce yourself to a chief pilot? Just after you've saved one of his kids from drowning. No one needs to know you pushed the kid in....😉
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