Aft To Close Groundschool With Immediate Effect !
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I think the words "disposed of" are very apt - Theresa was a superb asset and loyal employee of AFT who was to put it bluntly shafted big time - She was not the first and will be by no means the last - But the time is coming when the words "constructive dismissal" and "industrial tribunal" will be wafting around the corridors of AFT!!!! End of rant..........
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Wheelbrace,you need to be certain of your facts before firing broadsides.
Some of the staff only found out about this decision from this forum,they weren't told about it directly,so it wasn't only students that weren't informed of the decision.
I can assure you that none of the staff at the'coalface' at AFT are shysters,indeed they should be applauded for the way they have conducted themselves during some very trying circumstances over the last few months.
Some of the staff only found out about this decision from this forum,they weren't told about it directly,so it wasn't only students that weren't informed of the decision.
I can assure you that none of the staff at the'coalface' at AFT are shysters,indeed they should be applauded for the way they have conducted themselves during some very trying circumstances over the last few months.
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Shysters
Alan l - are you one of the [ex] members of staff? My point in that posting is that if you are no longer accepting payment (ie fired) then you have my every sympathy and may your god go with you.
If you are accepting payment from AFT then you should be smoothing the passage for the students who, it would seem, have been treated disgracefully and deserve more than a 'sorry guv, limited conpany (sic) law applies' response that is almost inevitable in these situations.
Your admonishment emoticon is very irritating, by the way. Please do not use it.
If you are accepting payment from AFT then you should be smoothing the passage for the students who, it would seem, have been treated disgracefully and deserve more than a 'sorry guv, limited conpany (sic) law applies' response that is almost inevitable in these situations.
Your admonishment emoticon is very irritating, by the way. Please do not use it.
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Wheelbrace,to imply that anyone who is currently working at AFT is a 'shyster' is totally out of order and an insult to very hard working and concientious staff,please refrain from its continued use.
Where do you get the idea from that the staff don't care what is happening to the students?
None of the students who have so far posted on this forum have complained about the staff at the company,far from it.
Where do you get the idea from that the staff don't care what is happening to the students?
None of the students who have so far posted on this forum have complained about the staff at the company,far from it.
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Wheelbrace - with respect - you do not understand the situation at AFT - you may not have read my previous posts - this is not a normal company run by normal people - this is a company flailing about in a raging inferno of lunacy - the CEO is an Arab who has no regard for British laws or the care or consideration of his staff or students - UNLESS they are sponsored cadets from Middle eastern airlines - you therefore should not comment on these matters - I repeat the sentiments of most on these posts - the staff at AFT are professional, caring people who are devastated at what this means for themselves and for their students and will remain so until the fat lady sings! So please stop commenting on what should be - it is not - just accept the word of those who know
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Present & Future State
Can anyone give me an informed update please on what is happening at AFT. Is the move to Doncaster happening? Is the FTO taking on new students? I've sent an email but had no reply.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Present and future state
Manxcatt, if you are planning to begin flight training you would be making a huge mistake to train their. The posts about the CEO/Chairmain/whatever he pretends to be are accurate.
He has no regard for UK laws and he is a bully who will smile and shake your hand to take your money but don't take that as any sort of commitment from him. He is out for number 1 only.
The staff have been trying to do their best and he has
on them for their efforts. It clearly is not the school it once was nor is it a school worthy of the efforts the staff have put in.
Expect the acronym to survive only.
He has no regard for UK laws and he is a bully who will smile and shake your hand to take your money but don't take that as any sort of commitment from him. He is out for number 1 only.
The staff have been trying to do their best and he has
on them for their efforts. It clearly is not the school it once was nor is it a school worthy of the efforts the staff have put in.Expect the acronym to survive only.
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All too accurate wf.
There once was a great staff who worked hard to deliver an oustanding product to their customers. The numbers are dwindling fast.
Just look at the number of extremely qualified people who have come and gone from there and the thing they all have in common is actually his incompetence.
Question for you (or anyone considering working for or attending AFT):
On what planet does it make sense to take a GI who is not qualified to be HoT for either school and has no experience managing people, then promote him to a ficticious position as GTM (both schools) so that two qualified HoTs answer to him?
There once was a great staff who worked hard to deliver an oustanding product to their customers. The numbers are dwindling fast.
Just look at the number of extremely qualified people who have come and gone from there and the thing they all have in common is actually his incompetence.
Question for you (or anyone considering working for or attending AFT):
On what planet does it make sense to take a GI who is not qualified to be HoT for either school and has no experience managing people, then promote him to a ficticious position as GTM (both schools) so that two qualified HoTs answer to him?
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AFT/AYLA
Manxcatt... Stay well clear of AFT/AYLA,
From the looks of what i have read on this thread and a bit of digging around myself AFT/AYLA are not a company that i would invest my money in.
The management are a bunch of "cowboys" and are very incompetent. As manfromatlantis pointed out.. no regard for UK law!! From as early as i remember the management seem to favor their foreign students and give them priority over UK students, both in flying and ground school. They also dont treat their staff too well either.
However, all this said, i would like to point out that all the instructors are very professional, I just hope the name AFT/AYLA will not ruin their professional reputation.
From what i have heard AFT/AYLA is moving to Doncaster but it could oporate under the name AYLA and not AFT. But dont be fooled... same company, same owners.
Does anybody know what is happening to the current students who are at AFT, I understand a lot if not all of them are sponsored by various Airlines? Are they going to Doncaster too?
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From the looks of what i have read on this thread and a bit of digging around myself AFT/AYLA are not a company that i would invest my money in.
The management are a bunch of "cowboys" and are very incompetent. As manfromatlantis pointed out.. no regard for UK law!! From as early as i remember the management seem to favor their foreign students and give them priority over UK students, both in flying and ground school. They also dont treat their staff too well either.
However, all this said, i would like to point out that all the instructors are very professional, I just hope the name AFT/AYLA will not ruin their professional reputation.
From what i have heard AFT/AYLA is moving to Doncaster but it could oporate under the name AYLA and not AFT. But dont be fooled... same company, same owners.
Does anybody know what is happening to the current students who are at AFT, I understand a lot if not all of them are sponsored by various Airlines? Are they going to Doncaster too?
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HELLO...Anyone there? If anyone reads this let me know ASAP...Please!
Got barred from the forum by our Forum friendly (If you don't like what I say and respond as such, I BAR YOU) Moderator The Wee Wonder Won.
Do have a little interesting news with regard AFT/AYLA.
Got barred from the forum by our Forum friendly (If you don't like what I say and respond as such, I BAR YOU) Moderator The Wee Wonder Won. Do have a little interesting news with regard AFT/AYLA.
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Yesterday i received a refund from AFT for the course , thankfully , Bristol course should be here Monday , happy days again !
Big thanks to MW @ AFT for sorting it all out and Alex and Noush at Bristol for arranging the course so expediently
Big thanks to MW @ AFT for sorting it all out and Alex and Noush at Bristol for arranging the course so expediently
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I am testing's buddy , the other 2 guys were also reimbursed. I'm just glad the nightmare is over and look forward to passing with Bristol , the PM's i have received would suggest i have made the best decision with BG.
In reference to the 'slurr's' that appear to be directed to the staff earlier on in the thread this is nothing further from the truth , they were both excellent and professional in delivering the course and as of the 6th March still had not been given any official notice that the groundschool was closing !
I am relieved im out of it but feel for those still there !
In reference to the 'slurr's' that appear to be directed to the staff earlier on in the thread this is nothing further from the truth , they were both excellent and professional in delivering the course and as of the 6th March still had not been given any official notice that the groundschool was closing !
I am relieved im out of it but feel for those still there !
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Staff at AFT
Just found out about the demise of AFT. The staff at Coventry, when I left in June 2009, were a damn good bunch if a bit naive. I wish them all, both admin and groundschool, well. Also my numerous Kuwaiti sons deserve lots of praise. God bless you all.
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In my two odd years with AFT, downwind24, I have nothing but praise for all the staff. In June 09 redundancies were made and the writing was on the wall then especially when the new CEO was given to them from Jordan. I sincerely hope JK,JS and GtheN and the others find something soon.
