Ayla Aaa Jordan
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Ayla 2020
It would appear that the 'hire/fire' practice is becoming the same at AFT as Ayla - does anyone know why?
If true, this surely is no way to build up a successful business any where in the world, as logic along with 'word of mouth' experiences from managers/instructors who have been involved with both AAA/AFT says that those seeking employment in this sector will I imagine, not even consider these schools as viable. It most certainly will not help the most important group of people involved - the students, as a continual change of instructor can hardly be seen as condusive to learning.
I wonder what the CAA thinks of the loss of the three managers at AFT?
It would appear that the 'hire/fire' practice is becoming the same at AFT as Ayla - does anyone know why?
If true, this surely is no way to build up a successful business any where in the world, as logic along with 'word of mouth' experiences from managers/instructors who have been involved with both AAA/AFT says that those seeking employment in this sector will I imagine, not even consider these schools as viable. It most certainly will not help the most important group of people involved - the students, as a continual change of instructor can hardly be seen as condusive to learning.
I wonder what the CAA thinks of the loss of the three managers at AFT?
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From: Somewhere
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Ayla into political & financial trouble
Recently got to know that Ayla has been radically changing their policies and after the recent visa by JAA to their academy, news is that the ground school is closing and moving to another location within the city.
Also Ayla seems to be going back to their primary policy of firing staff.
AFT has closed down (for the time being) till they find another location in UK to continue with training. Students from there have been shipped to Ayla to continue, a sign of working for the present and overlooking possible problems in the future.
Though Ayla claims to have found numerous alternate airports in UK to continue training, no contract has been signed officially.
If anyone has detailed reports or has heard things like this, please do let us all know. I have a number of friends willing to apply to the academy but looking at the current management structure and lack of looking into the future, they are thinking otherwise.
Also Ayla seems to be going back to their primary policy of firing staff.
AFT has closed down (for the time being) till they find another location in UK to continue with training. Students from there have been shipped to Ayla to continue, a sign of working for the present and overlooking possible problems in the future.
Though Ayla claims to have found numerous alternate airports in UK to continue training, no contract has been signed officially.
If anyone has detailed reports or has heard things like this, please do let us all know. I have a number of friends willing to apply to the academy but looking at the current management structure and lack of looking into the future, they are thinking otherwise.
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From: Amman
reading through your comment "Steve Borgwardt" it is obvious that your problem with Ayla is rather personal, i dont know what you must have screwed up to end up out of the door on your 
but i am sure that it must have been big,
so i dont really care what the CEO does in his personal time or whom he hires when it does not concern training, and merely administrative issues, so if his secretary cant type good english and was hired based on her looks, i frankly dont give a rat's,,
so suck it up with all your experience in aviation am sure you would find a great job as a sack boy
so let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
but i am sure that it must have been big,so i dont really care what the CEO does in his personal time or whom he hires when it does not concern training, and merely administrative issues, so if his secretary cant type good english and was hired based on her looks, i frankly dont give a rat's
,,so suck it up with all your experience in aviation am sure you would find a great job as a sack boy
so let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
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From: England
AFT
AFT very definitely NOT closed down; working harder than ever and from 3 airport sites inc. Coventry to get the KAC contract finished.
After that who knows
(70 hours in the sim last month, in the middle of the best run of fine weather we've had in years!
)
After that who knows
(70 hours in the sim last month, in the middle of the best run of fine weather we've had in years!
)
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From: jordan
you don't really need an airport to run a sim.....
But having these kinds of problems as a training facility is difficult. It's not exactly the high profit area of aviation. Schools often have to cope with high overheads and elevated insurance premiums because things do get bend sooner or later. A high staff turnover just complicates matters.
But having these kinds of problems as a training facility is difficult. It's not exactly the high profit area of aviation. Schools often have to cope with high overheads and elevated insurance premiums because things do get bend sooner or later. A high staff turnover just complicates matters.
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From: England
you don't really need an airport to run a sim
All I was aiming for was to put in a few facts, mainly that AFT is NOT closed.
I can't say that after 3000 hours of instructional experience, I was particularly looking to be educated on where you can stick a simulator! Funnily enough though you have just given me an idea or two on exactly where you could stick a simulator......
I can't say that after 3000 hours of instructional experience, I was particularly looking to be educated on where you can stick a simulator! Funnily enough though you have just given me an idea or two on exactly where you could stick a simulator......
Last edited by easydebt; 10th July 2010 at 00:28. Reason: better wording
