How to get into contact with HOR's at various airlines
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How to get into contact with HOR's at various airlines
Hi,
I've tried contacting various Head of Recruitments who work for various diffrent airlines but all they send back as a reply to my email is something along the lines of ''thank you for sending in your CV" I didnt even send in my CV in the first place!
I have heard that many people have actually spoken to various HOR's - how did they do it? What I mean is, How can I track these HOR's down and ask them questions regarding flight training without them ignoring me?
Any ideas, suggestions and advice would be nice! Thanks ever so much! Next thing to look foreward to: Overnight blizzard thats supposed to start later this night! And if it does happen it means no college for me tmorow, yeah!
Afraz
I've tried contacting various Head of Recruitments who work for various diffrent airlines but all they send back as a reply to my email is something along the lines of ''thank you for sending in your CV" I didnt even send in my CV in the first place!
I have heard that many people have actually spoken to various HOR's - how did they do it? What I mean is, How can I track these HOR's down and ask them questions regarding flight training without them ignoring me?
Any ideas, suggestions and advice would be nice! Thanks ever so much! Next thing to look foreward to: Overnight blizzard thats supposed to start later this night! And if it does happen it means no college for me tmorow, yeah!
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I'll be gentle, before you get ripped to pieces again . . .
Understand that pilot recruitment teams at airlines are currently deluged with CVs and applications from out of work pilots, ranging from 200hr zero experience CPLs to widebody Boeing captains. As you haven't even started training yet Afraz, the chances of them finding time to answer your questions are slim, to say the least.
Understand that pilot recruitment teams at airlines are currently deluged with CVs and applications from out of work pilots, ranging from 200hr zero experience CPLs to widebody Boeing captains. As you haven't even started training yet Afraz, the chances of them finding time to answer your questions are slim, to say the least.
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To be fair, it's a good question to ask. Completely out of synch with his stage in the game, as G SXTY points out, but certainly one I'm going to ask at some point in the faaaaaaar future!
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Afraz...
Welcome back!
Unfortunately, as G-SXTY points out, HOR's as you call them are just too busy. I know a Chief Pilot who get's anything up to 300 emails [I]a day[I] from hopefuls and wanabees. I doubt that any of them are going to spare a single second to not even look at your CV, but offer training advice to someone yet to set out on the path...
If I were you I would look to things like the various shows held during the year - I can't remember the exact titles but I think Flyer used to do one, and I think there is another bigger one also. Most of the big schools, but most importantly many of the airlines, send their people to these events, and they will happily talk to you about training. They are usually advertised on PPRuNe and in magazines like Loop, Flyer, Pilot, etc.
Just remeber though, any FTO information needs to be taken in context - there will be lots of good advice, but ultimately they are trying to sell you their product, and so expect at least a little bias.
Hopefully at some point Danny and the team at PPRuNe will hold another wannabees day - I certainly found it very, very helpful, and was much appreciative of all those that gave their time so freely.
Edited to say: just found this thread immediately below the current one(!):
Flyer Show 2009
Not been to one myself, but if you go in with your eyes open, and take the FTO's with a pinch of salt, then I imagine there is some useful stuff. The guys on this thread seem extraordinarily negative - possibly an axe to grind I think.
Unfortunately, as G-SXTY points out, HOR's as you call them are just too busy. I know a Chief Pilot who get's anything up to 300 emails [I]a day[I] from hopefuls and wanabees. I doubt that any of them are going to spare a single second to not even look at your CV, but offer training advice to someone yet to set out on the path...
If I were you I would look to things like the various shows held during the year - I can't remember the exact titles but I think Flyer used to do one, and I think there is another bigger one also. Most of the big schools, but most importantly many of the airlines, send their people to these events, and they will happily talk to you about training. They are usually advertised on PPRuNe and in magazines like Loop, Flyer, Pilot, etc.
Just remeber though, any FTO information needs to be taken in context - there will be lots of good advice, but ultimately they are trying to sell you their product, and so expect at least a little bias.
Hopefully at some point Danny and the team at PPRuNe will hold another wannabees day - I certainly found it very, very helpful, and was much appreciative of all those that gave their time so freely.
Edited to say: just found this thread immediately below the current one(!):
Flyer Show 2009
Not been to one myself, but if you go in with your eyes open, and take the FTO's with a pinch of salt, then I imagine there is some useful stuff. The guys on this thread seem extraordinarily negative - possibly an axe to grind I think.
Last edited by dwshimoda; 9th Feb 2009 at 20:46.
I doubt that I'm alone in thinking that you are coming at this from a rather strange angle - as you appear to have done for quite a while.
If I may, I will liken it to contacting the Managing Directors of Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes and BMW for advice on which driving school to go to. Or asking the chief rocket scientist at NASA for their ideas on whether Cessna or Piper planes are better for you to take your trial lesson on.
As others have said, senior airline staff undoubtedly have far more important things to do with their time than to offer you their thoughts on various training ideas.
Afraz, my serious advice, once again, is to take yourself off to a flight training school - any school - and enrol for your PPL. At the very least take a trial lesson. During and after this, you could use the time to very briefly ask your instructor one or two questions which will help you with some of your immediate training plans. But please don't take the piss trying to engage him for hours, trying to solve your route to the LHS of a specific jet at a specific airline with a detailed plan for the next 10 years, as you won't be taken seriously.
One step at a time, eh?! How about your next post is reporting back on how your trial lesson went, where you did it, and what your plans are for doing your PPL?
If I may, I will liken it to contacting the Managing Directors of Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes and BMW for advice on which driving school to go to. Or asking the chief rocket scientist at NASA for their ideas on whether Cessna or Piper planes are better for you to take your trial lesson on.
As others have said, senior airline staff undoubtedly have far more important things to do with their time than to offer you their thoughts on various training ideas.
Afraz, my serious advice, once again, is to take yourself off to a flight training school - any school - and enrol for your PPL. At the very least take a trial lesson. During and after this, you could use the time to very briefly ask your instructor one or two questions which will help you with some of your immediate training plans. But please don't take the piss trying to engage him for hours, trying to solve your route to the LHS of a specific jet at a specific airline with a detailed plan for the next 10 years, as you won't be taken seriously.
One step at a time, eh?! How about your next post is reporting back on how your trial lesson went, where you did it, and what your plans are for doing your PPL?
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Afraz, take no notice of the meanies on this board,
Please get in touch with board member fabbe92, he will tell you everything you need to know.
I expect an invite to the wedding.
Please get in touch with board member fabbe92, he will tell you everything you need to know.
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Afraz
Please realise that, unlike your School Careers Advisor, Heads of Resources / Chief Pilots have absolutely no interest in you until you are a qualified pilot.
The analogy above
is spot on! Furthermore as a professional HOR directors they will be vey unlikely to have an in-depth knowlege of FTOs.
Can I respectfully request that you 'lurke', read what is said by others with experience, carry out your own research and make up your own mind? There is no 'golden bullet' to finding the FTO that suits you - it is often a case of trial and error as the millions of words on this subject in this forum alone wll bear witness.
In the meantime the thread is locked!
HWB
Please realise that, unlike your School Careers Advisor, Heads of Resources / Chief Pilots have absolutely no interest in you until you are a qualified pilot.
The analogy above
I will liken it to contacting the Managing Directors of Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes and BMW for advice on which driving school to go to
Can I respectfully request that you 'lurke', read what is said by others with experience, carry out your own research and make up your own mind? There is no 'golden bullet' to finding the FTO that suits you - it is often a case of trial and error as the millions of words on this subject in this forum alone wll bear witness.
In the meantime the thread is locked!
HWB
