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Old 30th May 2008, 16:41
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Seriously though guys. It's not easy to get the CPL/IR. It's not easy to get work. It's not easy to do a type rating. And it's not easy to work for an airline these days. But it's a fantastic job.

Best of luck with the training and job hunting. Pick a school that suits you.....

Best piece of advice I can give is to listen to those who have done it. There's always someone with more experience than you, and there's always more to learn.
Don't take yourself too seriously, and be able to take a bollong without going crying to Mum!

Have fun....... Many of us think the training was the best bit about this flying lark! lol

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Well said Happy Fran, but its probably wasted on Thomas!

Off you toddle to your computer on which you spend half your life espousing your 'coveted' knowledge on sitting in a tube in the sky all day...great. You probably eat sausages with your fry up at your working class semi-detached.
Reading through his posts again,the above has me in stiches, pure comedy genius, in an Alan Partridge sort of way. But very offensive to WWW, for some unfounded reason, if you kew anything about WWW, I think you will find he has a tad more knowledge on all things aviation than most people who contribute to the wannabes section, and you should be grateful for the useful info he passes on to the inexperienced.

Why do you want to fly if sitting in a tube in the sky all day is what you really think the career of a pilot is all about?
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It was just an itch I had to scratch

Really looking forward to getting ATPL theory out of way and get onto some fun Hour building.
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Old 30th May 2008, 16:53
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Its friday and Fran should be Happy, not sudying, the Curlew is calling with a chilled amstel!!
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I actually did have sausage fry up in my breakfast crew meal mid-atlantic the other day. And I'm sitting in my semi-detatched typing this....


MY GOD......THOMAS IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I did have a sausage sandwich at the point to point this week.. but so did His Grace the Duke of Beaufort who was in the queue with me - I don't think he has a Semi though

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Were his trousers too slack to notice?
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Old 31st May 2008, 10:01
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I second the comments about PAT, fantastic school. They got me an interview with FlyBe.
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Okay ex BCFT IR student....
First Time Pass on IR as well, on the dreaded Exeter route (those who have done it, know what I mean). Now drive a 737-800 in Africa and having great time.
BCFT's planes are old, so what? you want nice and new shinny go and fly a twinstar, no use for sim checks in classics though.
Instructors, well when I was there, One flew for FRA, One flew Dash 8's, John flew that nice Boeing 747SP Private jet, he is EX BA and IMHO one of the best instructors I have ever flown with. No idea about PAT, told they are very good. BUT BCFT is a very good organization. Young man, you should be very careful, what you have written appears to be libelous and if not careful Lance might come and visit you. Oh and Lance, great instructor, shouted a lot though, but really knows his stuff.
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Lets not forget the ground school chaps to, when I was there:
1 BA A320 skipper
1 Ex Monarch training Cpt (who may have retired now)
1 Ex Scotairways
1 Ex SA Air Force Navigator, and JAA/FAA ATPL holder also ATC Gnd/Twr/App trainer.
You missed SW, with Monarch B757, teaches IR


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Old 31st May 2008, 16:34
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thought the BA Skipper was slightly higher along fleet captain ?!
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Old 31st May 2008, 16:53
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Quite correct, and ex navy fast jet and rotary, air sea rescue, Essex police chopper, then BA.

And the host of Have I got news for you, on the side (Angus Dayton)
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:00
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The more i read this site the more i regret having come on here and the more i hope that the aviation world is not full of people like this. I may be only 17, but my father and I are incredulous at the childishness on display on this site. I was warned that pprune inevitably plunges into name-calling and handbagging but we are really taken aback. On my conversations with pilots on the line, I now realise why they say that those on Pprune are just stay at home weirdos! What an extremely strange life some of you must lead if all you have to do is post on this site all day. Was that the final breaking point which made her leave? Perhaps you never noticed. The job is that great that you come home and sit on here and talk nonsense about it? Strange- getting a kick out of instilling fear into people and attempting to use your position as a glorified bus driver to impress and frighten people. Control and power come to mind....no friends at home perhaps?
All of this my dad is bigger than your dad stuff- I cannot believe the childish name-dropping- are you the kind of guy who wears the stripes in Tesco even though you are not at work? Close to the truth am I? If nearly thinks that Alan Partridge is a genius then God help us. Reading through my posts again? Nothing better to do? I should be grateful for the knowledge! I live in the USA for part of each year and this site is just typical of how Brits are- anyone who has a different opinion is attacked- and no one has seriously disputed my claims on the brochure, although .... was man enough to agree with some of them. Not sure any FTO makes such wild inaccuracies. No, no one has disputed them- just a barrage of silliness. Because you had a poor-quality meal in a plane I am supposed to be jealous? Please realise that it is just a job- and not an intellectual one at that. What do you need? No qualifications whatsoever, and certainly judging by this site, no intellect either.
WWW you don’t rub shoulders with anyone who can bear a title, except to ferry them around and tidy their lapels, so don’t even go there. I, on the other hand, have visited the Palace several times and have even had a scotch in the House of Commons. You are very very ordinary i’m afraid, perhaps the class of girls at cheap Swindon nightclubs might be impressed with the stripes after work, but you’ll have to work harder for me unfortunately. You have no idea of my family’s history, which has had more impact on this nation than you would be able to understand- and I certainly don’t brag about it.
The irony is, WWW’s silly comments and clear class envy about my pocket money, lead us to think that he is anti-capitalist and anti-establishment. Yet WWW sits in a tube all day and all he has to offer is his labour! That’s right! SO you are in fact supporting the system you are busy running down! Your comp probably didn’t have as many nice books as my school has, but you need to read up on some fundamentals on the system. Oh i forgot, you fly for a non-profit making airline! Capitalism and rich people pay for the toys that you are flying about in – for a WAGE. Yes- a WAGE. They are using YOUR labour! Perhaps you are sore that after reading your heart-rendering story about your harrowing journey to sit in a tube with one other guy all day, you are just jealous of the fact that I have already flown a multiple of types and will get easier and quicker to that LHS than you. That is the fact. If you don’t like the capitalist system- do something about it rather than just serving the needs of our class and then whinging about it on a forum.
When I fly, it will be for fun, not for money, but I pray to God that the real people in the real world have a sense of reality and not of self-indulgence, self-righteousness or class-envy. Don’t forget- we’re all just glorified bus drivers, some of us just know where to put our knives and forks on the plate after our fish and chips and kebabs- deal with it. Farewell.
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:23
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you really shouldn't be drinking scotch at your age thomas.
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:35
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Maybe you shouldn't be on pprune at your age...
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:35
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Wow, what a topic!
I have to see where your all coming from, but this is becoming a joke!
I rarely put the effort into posting on here, as i read, and soak in the information as at 17 i feel like i have no, or very little knowledge to put forward!

I think Thomas is going a little mad here, he opens up a crazy topic, and then goes on to say his father is a barrister and that his family history is better than ours.

I mean for all we know he could be a 17 year old boy, wanting some attention!

And about the "handbags", well you my friend are the one throwing them about!

And scotch in the house of commons, ooooh laaa laaahhhh!


I think this topic is getting out of hand, now i think one thing that could be said is "Grow Up!"
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:36
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The scotch was probably more mature than him...
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Old 31st May 2008, 17:41
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any reason why i shouldn't be on pprune at my age thomas?
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I can give you a reason mate- because all you will get from this site is disheartened- and self-righteous respsonses about how tough it is to get to the 'coveted' and oh so fantastic 'zeus-like' position of pilot from the 'knowledgeable' ones on this site- you will leave in tears in the end- keep away and good luck to ya
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How is it that a 17 year old boy can be so bitter?

I've found this site to be very useful in finding out about particular flying schools, or learning from flying mistakes that others have made so I don't make them myself.

Sure, there's a lot of bitter people on here saying that we shouldn't pay for our own type ratings, and oil prices will be the end of flying forever, but there's just as many people giving helpful advice from the point of view of someone who has been through it.

You need to grow up.
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