Egnatia Aviation Greece
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AMS, You can see in my earlier posts that I mention how I conducted my PPL in the UK at a modular FTO and my initial plan was to conduct all my training there. However the standard of training I found to be NOT so good. It took me 4 months to finish my PPL in minimum hours, and took me 3 months to complete 60 hours of hour building, CPL/ME/IR at Egnatia... Do the maths...
The training does not depend on the country in which it is conducted but by the mentality and standard of the FTO.
I can guarantee you of a few things from Egnatia Aviation:
1. The standard of training is very high. This means, IN DEPTH breifings AND debriefings are conducted before and after every flight. Instructors make sure you understand what you did wrong and ALSO what you did well. They constantly ask you theoretical questions during every flight, not so much as a test, but more as a reminder of "if you dont know it, go read on it so you know it in the future". I personally learned alot from my instructors there, in addition to what the ATPL books said.
2. The area is GREAT for flying. Airspace is not restricted at all. Three airports in the immediate vicinity of LGKV offering very nice IR flights without waisting time in the cruising phase of flight. LGTS, LGAL, LGLM and just a bit further you have LGSK which has very interesting approaches.
3. The student to instructor ratio is very good. Your instructor will know you very well after 1-2 flights and they have time to answer questions and even some 1 on 1 talk about any questions you might have outside your "booked" slots. You wont get any of this, your slot is over so leave me alone! The instructors there LOVE their job.
4. You will be very comfortable. Accomodations is not only very nice, but actually way above normal standards you would expect from a flight school.
5. The environment is very friendly and the whole team there will make you feel right at home.
6. When you fly, they mean business.. They are very strict and demand a high standard from all of their students. You will never feel that ANY of your flights are boring or routine. Every flight has a specific purpose which you know in advance because they provide you with manuals which tell you exactly what you will do on each and every flight you fly there, and what is expected of you in every one of those flights.
7. Value for money...
The training does not depend on the country in which it is conducted but by the mentality and standard of the FTO.
I can guarantee you of a few things from Egnatia Aviation:
1. The standard of training is very high. This means, IN DEPTH breifings AND debriefings are conducted before and after every flight. Instructors make sure you understand what you did wrong and ALSO what you did well. They constantly ask you theoretical questions during every flight, not so much as a test, but more as a reminder of "if you dont know it, go read on it so you know it in the future". I personally learned alot from my instructors there, in addition to what the ATPL books said.
2. The area is GREAT for flying. Airspace is not restricted at all. Three airports in the immediate vicinity of LGKV offering very nice IR flights without waisting time in the cruising phase of flight. LGTS, LGAL, LGLM and just a bit further you have LGSK which has very interesting approaches.
3. The student to instructor ratio is very good. Your instructor will know you very well after 1-2 flights and they have time to answer questions and even some 1 on 1 talk about any questions you might have outside your "booked" slots. You wont get any of this, your slot is over so leave me alone! The instructors there LOVE their job.
4. You will be very comfortable. Accomodations is not only very nice, but actually way above normal standards you would expect from a flight school.
5. The environment is very friendly and the whole team there will make you feel right at home.
6. When you fly, they mean business.. They are very strict and demand a high standard from all of their students. You will never feel that ANY of your flights are boring or routine. Every flight has a specific purpose which you know in advance because they provide you with manuals which tell you exactly what you will do on each and every flight you fly there, and what is expected of you in every one of those flights.
7. Value for money...
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To answer your questions AMS:
Students per instructor - There are times when there are quite a few students.. However the head of training does a good job of spliting them up evenly. At the most busy time I was there my instructor had myself and 4 other students if i remember correctly. However 2 of them were conversion students so they didnt stay too long. You have your instructors complete attention.
ILS Approaches - LGTS is about a 40 minute flight in the DA42, which is where you do the ILS approaches. Its a busy airport so you get radar vectored in which is a nice experience. This airport has two runways, 16/34 and 10/28. 16/34 is used 99% of the time and it has an ILS on runway 16. 34 has a very interesting VOR/DME appraoch. I did 3 ILS's in my IR on the airplane.
Yes you do fly in the airways. On every single IR flight.
I did my training there from september until december 2010.
Some additional information that I found very important at Egnatia. There are no hidden costs what so ever. What they quote is what you pay. Daily expenses (food, drink...) are very cheap, so you wont be using up alot of money. Aircraft are brand new, with all instruments working at all times. Maintenance guys are very kind and professional and wont hesitate to help you out if you need anything, or to answer a question you may have.
Students per instructor - There are times when there are quite a few students.. However the head of training does a good job of spliting them up evenly. At the most busy time I was there my instructor had myself and 4 other students if i remember correctly. However 2 of them were conversion students so they didnt stay too long. You have your instructors complete attention.
ILS Approaches - LGTS is about a 40 minute flight in the DA42, which is where you do the ILS approaches. Its a busy airport so you get radar vectored in which is a nice experience. This airport has two runways, 16/34 and 10/28. 16/34 is used 99% of the time and it has an ILS on runway 16. 34 has a very interesting VOR/DME appraoch. I did 3 ILS's in my IR on the airplane.
Yes you do fly in the airways. On every single IR flight.
I did my training there from september until december 2010.
Some additional information that I found very important at Egnatia. There are no hidden costs what so ever. What they quote is what you pay. Daily expenses (food, drink...) are very cheap, so you wont be using up alot of money. Aircraft are brand new, with all instruments working at all times. Maintenance guys are very kind and professional and wont hesitate to help you out if you need anything, or to answer a question you may have.
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Future Employment Opportunities
I know that Egnatia is still a relatively young school but I was wondering if in the past 5 years it has managed to make any close relationships with airlines. Im guessing it must be getting better known now in Europe and I would like to know if you guys can help your Atpl students with finding jobs once they are done. Appreciate any feedback I can get on this guys.
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Dear Alzandor,
As I mentioned earlier, Generally we do not publish the names of the companies that our students are working for as the job is not taken only because of the quality of the training of the Organisation but mostly because of the high quality and high dedication of our students. It's mostly their achievement. We only supplied them with the necessary qualities and skills to get it.
In addition to the above I would like to mention that aviation is a very small world. Everyone knows everyone. Egnatia is trusted by very important people of various airlines for their own children. For example we are currently training the son of the recruitment manager of a very well known company of the Middle East and the son of the Flight Operations Manager of another very well known European airline. For obvious reasons I cannot mention the names of the companies. However, I will mention again that we do not scream that we offer students job because we do not. I don't know anybody that REALLY does. What we do (and I can safely say that we do it well) is to prepare student with the necessary skills and values to get a job by THEMSELVES.
I am just being honest.
As I mentioned earlier, Generally we do not publish the names of the companies that our students are working for as the job is not taken only because of the quality of the training of the Organisation but mostly because of the high quality and high dedication of our students. It's mostly their achievement. We only supplied them with the necessary qualities and skills to get it.
In addition to the above I would like to mention that aviation is a very small world. Everyone knows everyone. Egnatia is trusted by very important people of various airlines for their own children. For example we are currently training the son of the recruitment manager of a very well known company of the Middle East and the son of the Flight Operations Manager of another very well known European airline. For obvious reasons I cannot mention the names of the companies. However, I will mention again that we do not scream that we offer students job because we do not. I don't know anybody that REALLY does. What we do (and I can safely say that we do it well) is to prepare student with the necessary skills and values to get a job by THEMSELVES.
I am just being honest.
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hi everyone ,
im planning to do atpl in house in egnatia , i know that school have some solid feedback about flying part but i never heard about the atpl ground school part , so if someone can give me any feedback about intructors teaching the ground and the quality i will appreciate
tks for help guys
im planning to do atpl in house in egnatia , i know that school have some solid feedback about flying part but i never heard about the atpl ground school part , so if someone can give me any feedback about intructors teaching the ground and the quality i will appreciate
tks for help guys
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Plans to start training at Egnatia Aviation.
Hello to everyone who read it. 
As already you can understand i am planing to start training at egnatia. I am planing to take IKAROS package . I have read alot of testimonials about this school and want to say that what they offer for 54.400 Euros + additional 2.250 for MCC that's realy sounds very attractive for me. But one thing what frighten me is licence wich i will get after graduation. As i heard Greece licence isn't very quoted in EU countries.
If anybody can give some advice will be very appreciated.
P.S.
Apologize for my bad english.
As already you can understand i am planing to start training at egnatia. I am planing to take IKAROS package . I have read alot of testimonials about this school and want to say that what they offer for 54.400 Euros + additional 2.250 for MCC that's realy sounds very attractive for me. But one thing what frighten me is licence wich i will get after graduation. As i heard Greece licence isn't very quoted in EU countries.
If anybody can give some advice will be very appreciated.
P.S.
Apologize for my bad english.
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Never heard of this school before, but sounds great to me! What about those conversion ? It is that easy to get through for all EU citizens? (I am polish)
Can you recommend some other flight schools from zero to fATPL worth considering in southern part of Europe? Spain ? Italy? Croatia?
Can you recommend some other flight schools from zero to fATPL worth considering in southern part of Europe? Spain ? Italy? Croatia?
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Hey Gornet,
There is a school in Croatia worth mentioning. It's Panonnia Pilot School. relatively new in professional training, but had trained quite a bit of PPLs around here. I was there a year and a half ago finishing off my PPL. Done all the training, but due to ignorant pricks and gob****es in Croatian Civil Aviation Authority didn't do Skill Test.
The school also had a few issues with Cro CAA, so they moved their office to Slovenia and been working under Slo CAA ever since (which is full EASA, unlike Croatia). The whole flight training and everything is done in Croatia (which makes it cheaper), but the license is Slovenian which makes it full JAA/EASA.
There is a school in Croatia worth mentioning. It's Panonnia Pilot School. relatively new in professional training, but had trained quite a bit of PPLs around here. I was there a year and a half ago finishing off my PPL. Done all the training, but due to ignorant pricks and gob****es in Croatian Civil Aviation Authority didn't do Skill Test.
The school also had a few issues with Cro CAA, so they moved their office to Slovenia and been working under Slo CAA ever since (which is full EASA, unlike Croatia). The whole flight training and everything is done in Croatia (which makes it cheaper), but the license is Slovenian which makes it full JAA/EASA.
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Greece or Spain
Hi guys
I've been reading the threads about Egnatia and it all sounds very promising (as I'm considering going there). Does anyone have any current views on how flying in Greece (and Egnatia) compares to somewhere in Spain (like Jerez)?
The reason why I ask is both schools have been recommended to me and I'd like to make an educated decision.
I know both countries are struggling financially - any idea how that could affect the flying schools (i.e. any way to check how they are doing financially). I'm just concerned about losing money if they close while I'm in training.
Thanks
I've been reading the threads about Egnatia and it all sounds very promising (as I'm considering going there). Does anyone have any current views on how flying in Greece (and Egnatia) compares to somewhere in Spain (like Jerez)?
The reason why I ask is both schools have been recommended to me and I'd like to make an educated decision.
I know both countries are struggling financially - any idea how that could affect the flying schools (i.e. any way to check how they are doing financially). I'm just concerned about losing money if they close while I'm in training.
Thanks
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Bulls...., they just had some issues a few years ago after they bought a sim.
Did my IR/MEP and MCC there and recently they got a heavy contract from the middle east.
I recommend them more than any other school I have seen.
Amazing location, great DA 42NG and Katana , friendly staff and examiners and the rice includes accommodation.
Downside is the mosquitoes that drive you nuts.
Did my IR/MEP and MCC there and recently they got a heavy contract from the middle east.
I recommend them more than any other school I have seen.
Amazing location, great DA 42NG and Katana , friendly staff and examiners and the rice includes accommodation.
Downside is the mosquitoes that drive you nuts.
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Africanstormrider;
I think he meant the country,Greece,as we all know it,are facing the biggest financial crisis in its history and they were pretty much 'bought' by Germany,through a couple of bailouts. Egnatia Aviation isn't struggling financially due to UAE cash injected to it,they just signed a deal with Qatar airways and they are a private company anyway.
The only issue you might have is the HCAA once you pass your skills test,they will take their time to issue the licences but that's not the schools fault,although the admin lady does her best to sort the issue out.
I was very happy with the school,only just finished there and I had points of comparison(my ex school was a joke).I know you'll read a lot of negatives from 2007 but the school changed,the people,the planes,etc. For that price,which by the way there's no hidden extras,I would recommend the school
I think he meant the country,Greece,as we all know it,are facing the biggest financial crisis in its history and they were pretty much 'bought' by Germany,through a couple of bailouts. Egnatia Aviation isn't struggling financially due to UAE cash injected to it,they just signed a deal with Qatar airways and they are a private company anyway.
The only issue you might have is the HCAA once you pass your skills test,they will take their time to issue the licences but that's not the schools fault,although the admin lady does her best to sort the issue out.
I was very happy with the school,only just finished there and I had points of comparison(my ex school was a joke).I know you'll read a lot of negatives from 2007 but the school changed,the people,the planes,etc. For that price,which by the way there's no hidden extras,I would recommend the school
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More expensive?I'm surprised as when I looked at schools I didn't manage to find any cheaper...don't forget prices are in euros which is falling and has the potential to devalue even further if Greece defaults again.Plus their prices include accommodation,internet,transport to/from school,books,uniforms,etc...you only need money for food,while in UK you would have to add that up,which isn't cheap...!