Type Rating - which type, where, why pay etc?

[Re-Heat]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

But i would need to join it in the first place though wouldnt i. Otherwise i would be doing nothing.
I feel comfortable that i know quite alot but obviously i have nothing to go off.
whether a turboprop requires type rating instead of just a multi engine licence.
Can people give me a test on here to see how much i know

You do not need to join GAPAN to be aptitude tested by them.

ok i'll forget my career that i have been wanting to do since i was 8 years old, i really thought pilot's are helpfull people. I have had people thinking i am poor from primary school because they thought i had special needs when all it was, was the fact that i had low self esteem due to the fact that i have no friends.

OMG.
And you still don't socialise?

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

Thankyou sir I just only asked about whether turbo prop requires a type rating, ok i didnt do research on that, but i do, do research on alot of things and i am tired of searching and just need the answer quickly which is why i came here.

So you are wasting our time as you can't be bothered to search for yourself.

Get a life, read some aviation publications, and stop whining.

What you think is enough "knowledge" to get you by, appears here to be little more than the musing of someone who has been unmotivated their whole life, with a "fixation" of sorts on aviation. If you have common sense, then fund a PPL and find out some information, without mulling over every single life question you have in the public domain.

I am not stimulated at this moment in time because i have no outside life yet and wish this to change soon hopefully when i start flying though i am getting a bit worried by what type of people are out there. Hopefully as nice as the people i have met in my temping jobs.

My IQ on the BBC phsycometric tests was 103-Is that o.k?

Frankly no.

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Originally Posted by Lucifer

So you are wasting our time as you can't be bothered to search for yourself.

Get a life, read some aviation publications, and stop whining.

What! No! I was tired and really stressing and just needed some help. I am not whining. But then why the heck am i trying to explain myself to someone with a name of the devil.

Can someone give me an estimate of how many people are like this guy because if he is in aviation then i don't want to be in any job with nasty ingorant sods like this who don't give a **** for people's feelings. I don't know how you can sleep with yourself at night
I mean i start shaking at night but that's from anxiety and being scared of death and i try never to hurt anyone's feelings.

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

I mean i start shaking at night but that's from anxiety and being scared of death and i try never to hurt anyone's feelings.

I am saving you upwards of £60k on flying training. You can't hack it if you can't get over your current state of mind.

You are not conversant with dealing with people and lack confidence by your own admission. Either you spend time and effort joining teams, sports, clubs and other activities in addition to knuckling up on your aviation knowledge, or you give up and continue as you are without moaning.

There are an awfully large number of sharks who will take your money, and never admit to you that you are not capable of flying professionally.

I can tell you that now for free that you are currently incapable of dealing with the situations required of you as a pilot, and I sleep at night in the knowledge that I have helped you - contrary to what you might think yourself.

[GotheriK]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

Can someone give me an estimate of how many people are like this guy because if he is in aviation then i don't want to be in any job with nasty ingorant sods like this who don't give a **** for people's feelings. I don't know how you can sleep with yourself at night
I mean i start shaking at night but that's from anxiety and being scared of death and i try never to hurt anyone's feelings.

Well, I live in the States, so I can't talk for our friends over in the U.K., but nearly every person I've met in the aviation world has been nothing but helpful and supportive, from pilots to the guys who give me my weather.

Please, don't give up on your dream just because of some snobs on an internet forum. If you can't find your awnser here, try asking your instructor; go to your local airport, make some friends, get your foot in the door and don't be afraid to ask questions. And if you haven't already, start your training NOW. The teenage years are very important if you're planning on entering a flying carrer out of Uni. Get as much certification as you can. If your parents can't pay for it, get a job at the airport, I know a kid who gets free lessons by pushing paper at his local FBO, it's also a great job if you have a passion for aviation (sitting around airplanes all day)! You'll have to get over your shyness a little, but you'll be so glad you did.

Originally Posted by Lucifer

I am saving you upwards of £60k on flying training. You can't hack it if you can't get over your current state of mind.

You are not conversant with dealing with people and lack confidence by your own admission. Either you spend time and effort joining teams, sports, clubs and other activities in addition to knuckling up on your aviation knowledge, or you give up and continue as you are without moaning.

There are an awfully large number of sharks who will take your money, and never admit to you that you are not capable of flying professionally.

I can tell you that now for free that you are currently incapable of dealing with the situations required of you as a pilot, and I sleep at night in the knowledge that I have helped you - contrary to what you might think yourself.

You and I both know that's utter crap. You're telling this kid he can't fly because--he's shy? When I was 16, I was the same way, and I'm quite sure it hasn't impaired my flying ability.

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Originally Posted by Lucifer

I am saving you upwards of £60k on flying training. You can't hack it if you can't get over your current state of mind.

You are not conversant with dealing with people and lack confidence by your own admission. Either you spend time and effort joining teams, sports, clubs and other activities in addition to knuckling up on your aviation knowledge, or you give up and continue as you are without moaning.

There are an awfully large number of sharks who will take your money, and never admit to you that you are not capable of flying professionally.

I can tell you that now for free that you are currently incapable of dealing with the situations required of you as a pilot, and I sleep at night in the knowledge that I have helped you - contrary to what you might think yourself.

o.k then i suppose. I know one thing from school that i do come accross as if i dont know anything.

Hence they put me in bottom set once i was in high school.

But they couldnt do that in science because i guess due to the fact that they only do it for the main subjects.

My self esteem in the maths and english was poor because they though i couldnt do it.

but in science where no-one was looking over my back i excelled.

I am now confident and that's why i want to gain the ratings myself without anyone saying oh you're not good enough.

I do make sure im awake when i am at interviews and i am now a customer service advisor.

thanks for helping if you meant it constructively.

Here's the Deal, If someone is out to prey on others i will act shy to bring out the people who do prey on others and on the other hand i act mature when i know these people don't care if i am good enough.

But in a professional job i act professional. I drive with due care and attention and use technical words when needed or when i have a person who i care about and want to talk to them about.

But offcourse there are times like this when i am tired from work and on the internet and fed up and sometimes or most of the time find it hard to read alot and end up typing really simple. With the exception of this post as i am being motivated which is fun.

[Lucifer]

You and I both know that's utter crap. You're telling this kid he can't fly because--he's shy? When I was 16, I was the same way, and I'm quite sure it hasn't impaired my flying ability.

I am telling the adult that acting shyly in the face of adversity is not going to enable him to act as a leader in the flight deck.

If people giving advice here were snobs, they would say that candidate x could not achieve the career as he has not achieved 3 A Levels from Eton, Oxford degree and would have had a seat in the Lords were it not for those pesky Labour party commoners.

This is instead a lesson in meritocracy, and offering advice to those who seek it.

[GotheriK]

Originally Posted by Lucifer

I am telling the adult that acting shyly in the face of adversity is not going to enable him to act as a leader in the flight deck.

Hmm, for some reason I was under the impression he was a teenager, all the mentioning of parents and school. My mistake!

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Originally Posted by Lucifer

I am telling the adult that acting shyly in the face of adversity is not going to enable him to act as a leader in the flight deck.

I mean at work and on the phone to customers i am like excuse me sir we cant do that for you as the company policy is this and that. But when at home i do tend to be very relaxed and have more feelings but yes i need to grow.

Which is why hopefully my gaining of a ppl will get me out more, I am going to join a club. I mean at work we have a laugh but that ends and i go home.

I am quite stable really.

In terms of socialising and speaking i do feel the lack of being out with people has made me feel that i am 16.

Although my professional speak while at work is Proper.

I dont know i just need to be out more

[BitMoreRightRudder]

Wow between this thread and the one about the clinically depressed flying instructor I think there is a case to re-open Agony Aunt. As her services are clearly needed.


A330 go down the pub immediately.

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Either that or as my supervisor at the duty free shop said, i need to get laid Let's put it this way, it wouldn't be a bad idea for me to work at virgin

[mcgoo]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

Although my professional speak while at work is Proper.

oh the irony!


I thought you worked in a call centre, where did the duty free shop come from.

[Bealzebub]

However the good news is that most of the roadworks have been completed on the western end of US 192.

[Kestrel_909]

Originally Posted by A330ismylittlebaby

but in science where no-one was looking over my back i excelled.

So what happens during your flying exams, line checks and sim rides, with someone watching every move you make, even what hand you twist that knob with. No one, or very few like being monitored like that, but can get by. If you really hate it, your career in aviation will be even more difficult. Will you have low self-esteem because the captain is beside you watching your landings?

Mentioning your IQ of 103 is useless, it gives no indication of your ability to work as a team member or your flying ability. Pilot's dont need to be MENSA students, but they certainly need to be able to string a sentence together.

Go back to study Maths and improve on your Grade E, even if you decide on another career, it will help your options.

Yes there are some twits on PPRUNE but it's not fair to judge the people in the industry on the minority of a$$holes on PPRUNE, but a$$holes are not people who are being realistic about a career in flying.

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Originally Posted by Kestrel_909

So what happens during your flying exams, line checks and sim rides, with someone watching every move you make, even what hand you twist that knob with. No one, or very few like being monitored like that, but can get by. If you really hate it, your career in aviation will be even more difficult. Will you have low self-esteem because the captain is beside you watching your landings?

Mentioning your IQ of 103 is useless, it gives no indication of your ability to work as a team member or your flying ability. Pilot's dont need to be MENSA students, but they certainly need to be able to string a sentence together.

Go back to study Maths and improve on your Grade E, even if you decide on another career, it will help your options.

Yes there are some twits on PPRUNE but it's not fair to judge the people in the industry on the minority of a$$holes on PPRUNE, but a$$holes are not people who are being realistic about a career in flying.

It's fine now when people are there and i love showing off but not to the extent that i am an idiot. I am the type of driver who keeps to the speed limit or i at least drive at speeds that are safe for the conditions i come accross.

I didnt even stress about my driving test. I dont seem to have any stress when under a test.

I just appear to not be able to do something, which is why they shoved me in bottom set but i shined on the other classes.

Because i am not immediately put in a box plus i have learnt out there to not give away signs. Like i understand things that people say, it's just that unlike most people who go "yes yes right" i actually just sit there and listen and maybe give the impression that im not sure but now i am learning.

I worked at duty free sho[ but now in a call centre.

I can put sentences together but not on the internet because i am zombified on here. I spend all day on it so as to conserve energy and reduce stress levels i don't read through my writing and type about 44 words per minute, so it may be a bit off.

[neilia]

A330, the best thing you could do right now is get yourself down to your local flying school and talk to some people about flying. Flying people love nothing more than talking about flying stuff and are generally more than delighted to be able to answer questions that someone needs answers to.

I'd also make a friendly suggestion that you give away slightly less of yourself on a public forum.

To answer your initial question, the basic route to turbines is that you get yourself a commercial pilot's licence endorsed to fly multi-engine piston aeroplanes. Then (in the ideal world) an airline offers you a job, and puts you through the type rating for the specific aircraft type they want you to fly. There's no generic "turbine rating" as such.

[A330ismylittlebaby]

Originally Posted by neilia

A330, the best thing you could do right now is get yourself down to your local flying school and talk to some people about flying. Flying people love nothing more than talking about flying stuff and are generally more than delighted to be able to answer questions that someone needs answers to.

I'd also make a friendly suggestion that you give away slightly less of yourself on a public forum.

To answer your initial question, the basic route to turbines is that you get yourself a commercial pilot's licence endorsed to fly multi-engine piston aeroplanes. Then (in the ideal world) an airline offers you a job, and puts you through the type rating for the specific aircraft type they want you to fly. There's no generic "turbine rating" as such.

Thankyou Neilia that's what i needed I normally put as much research into it as i do typing on here
Thanks for everyones input, all constructive i understand.

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[short final 28]

hi,

just wonderimg if someone could help me out on this? doing a type rating in america is it possible to then come back to europe and fly? or do you need an american licence to do an american type rating??

[scroggs]

A330, read this thread. Click on all the links and read them thouroughly. Do not post again until you have completed that task.

Once you have done that, have a think about how you are going to improve your Maths (an 'E' at GCSE is woefully short of what a pilot needs) and English. You don't say how old you are, but I get the impression you have just left school. If that is the case, most employers will base part of their selection procedure on your academic history. If you are younger than 20 and have fewer than 5 GCSEs at Grade C or above, you will rule yourself out of many jobs. If you are contemplating a 'mentored' scheme such as CTC, you may well require 2 A-level passes. One or two schemes in UK are now suggesting that a degree is the minimum academic standard to enter, and that requirement may become normal in future.

You have a lot of work to do.

Scroggs