Training in Australia
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From: HKG
Flying schools in Australia?
Hi everyone,
Been a member for quite some time but hadn't made any posts as yet.
So Hi to everyone and am really grateful we have the pprune forum for everyone to share!!
Am looking closely into flying schools in Australia. Have got some useful tips in here for schools in Brisbane (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...lying+training), some in Sydney but not yet for Melbourne, Adelaide, or any other parts in Australia. Any info on that would be really helpful!!! (or any directions to any of the previous posts would do too Thx so much!)
I work full time so am doing only self-studying. Got my leave organized next year in March about a month so I could do some flying, am aiming for the GFPT.
Am planning to try the CX Cadetship so was thinking to do the GFPT in Flight Training Adelaide where CX train cadets. (actually AFTC, Adelaide Flight Training Centre where they train private students)
and since they seem to have lower rates than most other schs elsewhere (AUD165/hr on a Grob G115, GST included) But rumours are they seem to drag progress of private students and acutally you pay the same (and more hours than usual) trying to get your PPL. I heard one took up to 8 months, 120 hrs for a PPL!
My questions are:
1. What are the recommendations of schools down in SYD, MEL and maybe even Perth?
2. What is the average of hrs ppl need to get a GFPT? (As an average person) min. is 20, but most ppl get it for 30? 40? What really is the average? or even for PPL? What is the average hrs?
3. I heard that FTA/AFTC in ADL is very strict to private students because their main clients are the airlines cadets. So they do have higher standards and demand more than what is needed to let you move you to the next stage, i.e. next solo. Would you agree?
3. I'm really looking to find a school where I can probably do one hr at least EVERYDAY. (I heard it's very slight chance in AFTC) Coz I really got only a month's time and I want to achieve as much as I can in that time. Is it most flying schools can cater for my requirement on that issue?
Thank you so much for your help!!
Jackie
Been a member for quite some time but hadn't made any posts as yet.
So Hi to everyone and am really grateful we have the pprune forum for everyone to share!!
Am looking closely into flying schools in Australia. Have got some useful tips in here for schools in Brisbane (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...lying+training), some in Sydney but not yet for Melbourne, Adelaide, or any other parts in Australia. Any info on that would be really helpful!!! (or any directions to any of the previous posts would do too Thx so much!)
I work full time so am doing only self-studying. Got my leave organized next year in March about a month so I could do some flying, am aiming for the GFPT.
Am planning to try the CX Cadetship so was thinking to do the GFPT in Flight Training Adelaide where CX train cadets. (actually AFTC, Adelaide Flight Training Centre where they train private students)
and since they seem to have lower rates than most other schs elsewhere (AUD165/hr on a Grob G115, GST included) But rumours are they seem to drag progress of private students and acutally you pay the same (and more hours than usual) trying to get your PPL. I heard one took up to 8 months, 120 hrs for a PPL!
My questions are:
1. What are the recommendations of schools down in SYD, MEL and maybe even Perth?
2. What is the average of hrs ppl need to get a GFPT? (As an average person) min. is 20, but most ppl get it for 30? 40? What really is the average? or even for PPL? What is the average hrs?
3. I heard that FTA/AFTC in ADL is very strict to private students because their main clients are the airlines cadets. So they do have higher standards and demand more than what is needed to let you move you to the next stage, i.e. next solo. Would you agree?
3. I'm really looking to find a school where I can probably do one hr at least EVERYDAY. (I heard it's very slight chance in AFTC) Coz I really got only a month's time and I want to achieve as much as I can in that time. Is it most flying schools can cater for my requirement on that issue?
Thank you so much for your help!!
Jackie
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From: perth/australia
hi i'm not sure about the school your asking about but i have just completed the fast track course anmd i know there are alot of jobs in india and you need to get your licence as soon as you can it only took me 18 weeks to go from no experience to commercial licence so this would be a good path for you to go down have a look at their web site www.ftpilottraining.com and contact the company for some more info. I know they are going to be training some other students from india in early 2007 and you may be able to join that course.
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From: perth/australia
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From: Delhi
Sydney Flight Training Centre(SFTC)/Aerospce Aviation
Hello everybody! I'm desperate to find any information on these two schools. I live in India so its impossible for me to visit to check them out. Online there isn't too much about them either, other than the official stuff. So, if there are any graduates or people who have any knowledge of these two school please let me know. I'm planning to join SFTC, but i just need to get my info right before i set out there! Thanks!
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From: East Coast
have a look at BASAIR. I am now only a few weeks away from my CPL and have found the training great, and get on with most of the instructors. After CPL its time to get I/R then instructor rating. Hopefully see some of you down at YSBK in the future. By the way, I am interested in a PA31 endoresment early next year. Anyone help?
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From: East Coast
They dont as such offer ATPL, but they do have ATPL course (Ab-initio all the way through to CASA ATPL theory). You train with BASAIR all the way through to the Multi Instrument rating, then on completion of that you are sent over the road to the UNSW flying faculty to do the ATPLs there. Since I am however half british, half aussie I am doing instructor rating, and then heading over to Perth to convert to JARs.
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From: Asia and further east
hi wikki
i just read ur posts.
i am from india and i am training with basair.
as per my view i think all the schools are good in YSBK...but aerospace is the best with basair.. in terms of operations..
but if you are of them i think SFTC would be good...
if u got further queries mail me at [email protected]
i just read ur posts.
i am from india and i am training with basair.
as per my view i think all the schools are good in YSBK...but aerospace is the best with basair.. in terms of operations..
but if you are of them i think SFTC would be good...
if u got further queries mail me at [email protected]
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From: greece
Australian Flight Schools
Hello
i wanted to ask about australian flight schools...
do they have good quality of training?do european airlines accept australian flight schools(after the conversion an JAA fatpl)?
could anyone say there opinions or which is a good flying school
regards
i wanted to ask about australian flight schools...
do they have good quality of training?do european airlines accept australian flight schools(after the conversion an JAA fatpl)?
could anyone say there opinions or which is a good flying school
regards
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From: manchester
Training in Australia
I am considering going to Australia to raise funds for my commercial training and completing my training at Perth Flight school.
Has anyone had experience with this school and does anyone have any experience about how reputable an Australian commercial Licence is with European employers.
Thank you
Has anyone had experience with this school and does anyone have any experience about how reputable an Australian commercial Licence is with European employers.
Thank you
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From: London
You do realise that you can only work for a European employer if you have a JAA licence? An Australian CPL is worthless here, you would have to convert it to JAA, which includes doing all 14 JAA ATPL exams. When I investigated this route a couple of years ago I came to the conclusion that for the cost and effort involved it would be just as easy to do the whole lot in the UK in the first place.
However, a PPL and hour building in Australia would make sense, as flying costs are about half of UK costs.
However, a PPL and hour building in Australia would make sense, as flying costs are about half of UK costs.
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From: Australia
Go On Come Down to Oz!!!!
Mate come on down to Aussie where the sun always shines, the beers always cold & and the shiela's are beautiful!! Don't get sucked into a course in Europe where the sun rarely shines, the beers hot & ....
We might even teach you how to play some cricket. Imagine a holiday and flight training all wrapped into one. What they're NOT telling you is that you can get an Aussie Pilot Licence and do a quick conversion back home for a lot less money!! Same qualification at the end of the day as far as JAR is concerned!! There are a couple of options in Perth. You can do the JAR course with the Western Australian Aviation College but also check out Fast Track Pilot Training. They have developed an incredibly quick CPL course which only takes 18 weeks at http://www.ftpilottraining.com
We might even teach you how to play some cricket. Imagine a holiday and flight training all wrapped into one. What they're NOT telling you is that you can get an Aussie Pilot Licence and do a quick conversion back home for a lot less money!! Same qualification at the end of the day as far as JAR is concerned!! There are a couple of options in Perth. You can do the JAR course with the Western Australian Aviation College but also check out Fast Track Pilot Training. They have developed an incredibly quick CPL course which only takes 18 weeks at http://www.ftpilottraining.com
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From: London
I'm in ATPL groundschool, and did my PPL with Basair in Sydney.
Regardless of how expensive it is, if you want to fly for an airline in Europe (I assume that's your intention?) then your professional licence must be European.
Egnatia seem to offer reasonably priced training in Greece.
Regardless of how expensive it is, if you want to fly for an airline in Europe (I assume that's your intention?) then your professional licence must be European.
Egnatia seem to offer reasonably priced training in Greece.
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From: greece
Yes i do want to fly in Europe...
The reason i want to go to BASAIR or any other sydney school is because i am an australian citizen and i have a house near bankstown...(i left AUS 4 years ago i am GREEK/AUS
)
when i finish the CPL i will come to europe and do the JAA ATPL THEORY at Egnatia Aviation...
Can i ask where you are doing your ATPL?
exept that it is expensive is it a good school?Does it have reputation in europe as a good pilot school?
regards and good luck on your ATPL
The reason i want to go to BASAIR or any other sydney school is because i am an australian citizen and i have a house near bankstown...(i left AUS 4 years ago i am GREEK/AUS
)when i finish the CPL i will come to europe and do the JAA ATPL THEORY at Egnatia Aviation...
Can i ask where you are doing your ATPL?
exept that it is expensive is it a good school?Does it have reputation in europe as a good pilot school?
regards and good luck on your ATPL
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From: manchester
Thanks for the responses I have done alot of research and agree if you want to fly in Europe you need to train in a European school, I just wanted to see if anyone had found a way round this. I assume it works the same way vice versa in that a European licence will not be of any value in Austrialasia??
Thanks
Thanks
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From: Australia
JAA training in Australia
Just to update some of the information mentioned above, it is now possible to do fully approved Integrated and Modular JAR training in Australia at the Western Australian Aviation College. For the Integrated course (which has been approved by the U.K. CAA), the first 53 weeks of the course is done in Australia with the remaining 5 weeks done in the U.K. at Cranfield. I work for this college. Details can be found at http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/...ated/index.asp