Training in Australia
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Dude~
I'm just about to go over to Australia to get my Multi Endorsement.
I understand that if I want to convert to a JAA Multi-Rating, I need to get a letter fro the instructor and some other information too, not just hours in the logbook etc?
What’s the story? What really happens?
Sounds as if the CAA are their helpful selves again
Thanks in advance
Geez
I'm just about to go over to Australia to get my Multi Endorsement.
I understand that if I want to convert to a JAA Multi-Rating, I need to get a letter fro the instructor and some other information too, not just hours in the logbook etc?
What’s the story? What really happens?
Sounds as if the CAA are their helpful selves again
Thanks in advance
Geez
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Hey Dylan
I'm doing the Multi from a place called Gladstone in Queensland. A couple hours north if Brisbane.
I'm doing some hour building on it too, got a good price.
Is a one man outfit, sounds promising.
hope your well mate.
Tom
Dylan,
You don\'t happen to know the workings of converting it to a JAA licence do you?
Tom
I'm doing the Multi from a place called Gladstone in Queensland. A couple hours north if Brisbane.
I'm doing some hour building on it too, got a good price.
Is a one man outfit, sounds promising.
hope your well mate.
Tom
Dylan,
You don\'t happen to know the workings of converting it to a JAA licence do you?
Tom
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I think it depends on whether you get a full CASA PPL or just a special licence. I have a special licence (which is quite similar to the FAA temporary Airmans Certificate) which is an endorsement on your PPL allowing you to fly in Australia without giving you a full CASA licence. I think adding a Multi to this in Oz would be difficult and be complicated to convert back (although I really do not know the full ins and outs). The other option would be to properly convert your JAA PPL to a CASA PPL then add the M/E rating to this. You could then simply convert this back in the UK with a flight test done at any FTO and the written test.
I hope that makes some sense, as I said I am not altogether sure about the special licence option but the converstion should work.
I hope that makes some sense, as I said I am not altogether sure about the special licence option but the converstion should work.
Bit of a credibility gap here, anthperry -
1. There's no such thing as an integrated F ATPL course.
2. CATS don't do integrated training of any kind.
Perhaps you mean that WAAC are using the CATS modular ATPL theory notes?
Perhaps you could answer a couple of questions, just out of interest -
How far through the integrated ATPL course with WAAC are you?
How many others are on the course?
I repeat, nobody has yet graduated from a WAAC integrated ATP course and so nobody can say how good or bad it is, although I hear that the training procedures are modelled very closely on those of OAT.
1. There's no such thing as an integrated F ATPL course.
2. CATS don't do integrated training of any kind.
Perhaps you mean that WAAC are using the CATS modular ATPL theory notes?
Perhaps you could answer a couple of questions, just out of interest -
How far through the integrated ATPL course with WAAC are you?
How many others are on the course?
I repeat, nobody has yet graduated from a WAAC integrated ATP course and so nobody can say how good or bad it is, although I hear that the training procedures are modelled very closely on those of OAT.
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Check out the website, www.waaviationcollege.com.au, look under Intergrated JAA, u should find all of your answers there. As for me, I done the ozzie, ATPL, then converted to JAA; Dont be miss guided here im simply telling of my experiences with the college, and how they handled my training.
I cant comment on how many students go thru the ATP, as it does not start until Feb
AP
I cant comment on how many students go thru the ATP, as it does not start until Feb
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***EDIT TO A PREVIOUS POST***
My appologies, one of my previous statements didt read correctly, waac will use CATS notes for there intergrated course, not notes from a CATA intergrated course, my bad!
My appologies, one of my previous statements didt read correctly, waac will use CATS notes for there intergrated course, not notes from a CATA intergrated course, my bad!
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Training in Australia
Hey guys,
Can anybody recommend any flying schools in Australia? I just got my PPL + VFR night rating from South Africa,....just trying to find a decent school in Australia where I might be able to get my CPL and ATP license.
I have been looking into this one:
http://www.basair.com.au
Any assistance would be great...
Cheers...
Can anybody recommend any flying schools in Australia? I just got my PPL + VFR night rating from South Africa,....just trying to find a decent school in Australia where I might be able to get my CPL and ATP license.
I have been looking into this one:
http://www.basair.com.au
Any assistance would be great...
Cheers...
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Hi,
Speak to these guys,
Australian Wings Academy
Gold Coast Airport, Coolangatta
Tel: +61 7 5536 3622
www.ozwings.aero
[email protected]
I know the MD, George Crofts very well and the standard of training is very high and focussed around airline preperation and very practical.
Best regards
Lookoutbelow
Speak to these guys,
Australian Wings Academy
Gold Coast Airport, Coolangatta
Tel: +61 7 5536 3622
www.ozwings.aero
[email protected]
I know the MD, George Crofts very well and the standard of training is very high and focussed around airline preperation and very practical.
Best regards
Lookoutbelow
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Thanks much for the info. i'll look into them. i'm not too sure which is better -- an Australian CASA CPL/ATPL or a South African CAA license?
I'm in the middle of figuring out where to go to get these licenses. just not sure if i must enrol in an integrated course, or just build the hours myself.
any experienced guys ... can somebody plz gimme some advice?
cheers,
pilotezulu
I'm in the middle of figuring out where to go to get these licenses. just not sure if i must enrol in an integrated course, or just build the hours myself.
any experienced guys ... can somebody plz gimme some advice?
cheers,
pilotezulu
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heard good things about basair, also check www.casa.gov.au
and don't discount www.curtisaviation.com.au , however in answer to your question regarding which is better, the Oz licence or the SA one, I can only say that the majority of the guys in dunnda would readily swap their OZ casa for a JAR Euro licence.
depends on where you see yourself in say 3-5 years time ? Bush in zimbo 180 or 206, NT in OZ ala 206 or 210 or flogging around euroland as a FO on a 37 low coster ?
You'll need a "student" aussie licence to commence training proper in oz (also you'll need security checks and asic card, check forum dunnunda for details or the above casa website).
In the meantime if your're in a hurry to get in the air, you can get a "special" licence with a BFR and then all you need to "hour build" is a checkout and endorsement, however if you wish to "train" for a cpl and require the magic word, "rating" you'll need an aussie student licence, you also only need to do a written BAK to be able to take the CPL exams ..... which is the same as converting your Zimbo PPL sans the flight test.
PM me if you want more info , I'm already juggling more licence variations and medicals (UK - JAR, FAA, CASA) than I can keep track of......
and don't discount www.curtisaviation.com.au , however in answer to your question regarding which is better, the Oz licence or the SA one, I can only say that the majority of the guys in dunnda would readily swap their OZ casa for a JAR Euro licence.
depends on where you see yourself in say 3-5 years time ? Bush in zimbo 180 or 206, NT in OZ ala 206 or 210 or flogging around euroland as a FO on a 37 low coster ?
You'll need a "student" aussie licence to commence training proper in oz (also you'll need security checks and asic card, check forum dunnunda for details or the above casa website).
In the meantime if your're in a hurry to get in the air, you can get a "special" licence with a BFR and then all you need to "hour build" is a checkout and endorsement, however if you wish to "train" for a cpl and require the magic word, "rating" you'll need an aussie student licence, you also only need to do a written BAK to be able to take the CPL exams ..... which is the same as converting your Zimbo PPL sans the flight test.
PM me if you want more info , I'm already juggling more licence variations and medicals (UK - JAR, FAA, CASA) than I can keep track of......
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thanks for the link 7gcbc...
i do want to see myself flying for the airlines someday... i'm not sure what kind of line of work i can get into once i obtain my CPL. i do plan on doing the CPL with a multi-engine command instrument rating.
would it be worth going for a frozen ATPL as soon as i finish the CPL ... not sure how many years you have before you have to retake the ATP exams? do you know? i know in South Africa it's 5 years ... if you donot meet the required 1500 hours...
also,... what are the chances of getting jobs in Oz as a pilot, whether it be bush pilot or other ... if one doesn't have work rights? guess i don't really have work rights in europe either so would it be worth getting a JAA license as well?
i do want to see myself flying for the airlines someday... i'm not sure what kind of line of work i can get into once i obtain my CPL. i do plan on doing the CPL with a multi-engine command instrument rating.
would it be worth going for a frozen ATPL as soon as i finish the CPL ... not sure how many years you have before you have to retake the ATP exams? do you know? i know in South Africa it's 5 years ... if you donot meet the required 1500 hours...
also,... what are the chances of getting jobs in Oz as a pilot, whether it be bush pilot or other ... if one doesn't have work rights? guess i don't really have work rights in europe either so would it be worth getting a JAA license as well?
PPRuNe Handmaiden
The competition in Oz for any flying job is incredibly tough. Only the select Qantas cadets have to bypass the GA time. Although I believe they are now being farmed out to turbo prop operators to get some experience before getting comfy on a 744.
GA time is instructing, bush flying, charter, scenics and the like. To an extent, the first turbine job will seem more like GA than airlines too.
Having said that, GA flying is probably the most fun you'll have in the flying industry.
To work in Australia you do need to have work permits and visas. Best to check out
Dept of Immigration for more information there.
To live and work in Europe you need the appropriate visas as well. The JAA license is probably the most expensive license on the planet. If you can't use it, I certainly wouldn't bother with it.
GA time is instructing, bush flying, charter, scenics and the like. To an extent, the first turbine job will seem more like GA than airlines too.
Having said that, GA flying is probably the most fun you'll have in the flying industry.
To work in Australia you do need to have work permits and visas. Best to check out
Dept of Immigration for more information there.
To live and work in Europe you need the appropriate visas as well. The JAA license is probably the most expensive license on the planet. If you can't use it, I certainly wouldn't bother with it.
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Bank Loans - UK/Australia
I hold British and Australian Passports and an FAA ATP. I have never flown in the U.K/Europe but would like to convert to the JAA ATPL, cash depending!
Can anyone suggest any banks in the U.K or Australia that I could approach for a loan? I have few assets.
Thanks.
Can anyone suggest any banks in the U.K or Australia that I could approach for a loan? I have few assets.
Thanks.
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ATPL in Australia
Can anyone recommend training schools in Australia? In particular Perth, but if none can be recommended here I would be interested country wide.
This is for CASA certification (Australia) not JAA.
Thanks.
This is for CASA certification (Australia) not JAA.
Thanks.
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look out alright
Originally Posted by lookoutbelow
Hi,
Speak to these guys,
Australian Wings Academy
Gold Coast Airport, Coolangatta
Tel: +61 7 5536 3622
www.ozwings.aero
[email protected]
I know the MD, George Crofts very well and the standard of training is very high and focussed around airline preperation and very practical.
Best regards
Lookoutbelow
Speak to these guys,
Australian Wings Academy
Gold Coast Airport, Coolangatta
Tel: +61 7 5536 3622
www.ozwings.aero
[email protected]
I know the MD, George Crofts very well and the standard of training is very high and focussed around airline preperation and very practical.
Best regards
Lookoutbelow
That school and the individual mentioned are the laughing stock of the airport.
Try the opposition up the road
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Would this be the same George Crofts who was given a suspended sentence for hitting his cabin crew girlfriend in the car park at Glasgow when he worked for Airtours. There was an article in the Sun from around August/ September 1996. Anyone have a copy?
If he had declared his criminal record when he joined Cathay, he would not have been hired.
Astraeus crew would remember Crofts. He had to leave when one of the cabin crew reported him for stalking her.
Is falsifying logbook a sackable offence? If My Travel crew are to be believed, Crofts may have questions to answer in that department. When it comes to skeletons, Crofts has more than most.
Instead of being 'just another number' I could order a Personal Title and help support PPRuNe
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Would this be the same George Crofts who was given a suspended sentence for hitting his cabin crew girlfriend in the car park at Glasgow when he worked for Airtours. There was an article in the Sun from around August/ September 1996. Anyone have a copy?
If he had declared his criminal record when he joined Cathay, he would not have been hired.
Astraeus crew would remember Crofts. He had to leave when one of the cabin crew reported him for stalking her.
Is falsifying logbook a sackable offence? If My Travel crew are to be believed, Crofts may have questions to answer in that department. When it comes to skeletons, Crofts has more than most.