ATPL Ground study material: books, DVDs, computer programs etc.
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I bought the oxford CBT material for the ppl stuff and it helped me loads. A friend bought the oxford cbt stuff for the atpl's and he says its helped him loads...so yes i would say so 
{Not normally a oxford fan but the CBT is awesome!}
{Not normally a oxford fan but the CBT is awesome!}
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I would definetely try and purchase the OAT Met CDROM. It was the most useful tool I probably had during my ATPL studies- a must in my book!
I also used their textbook for Performance, which seemed to keep everything simple and to the point. No wordy, meaningless crap which is only too present in other providers notes! So at a guess I would imagine their Performance CDROM is probably worth the investment. They are pricey though!
I also used their textbook for Performance, which seemed to keep everything simple and to the point. No wordy, meaningless crap which is only too present in other providers notes! So at a guess I would imagine their Performance CDROM is probably worth the investment. They are pricey though!
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I bought the Oxford Met CD a few weeks ago and its made such a difference. I found Met really difficult just reading the textbook, but using the CD has made the subject a whole lot easier for me to understand.
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Met Cd
I used the MET CD in 2003. The manuals we had for MET were not good at all. I can honestly say that apart from listening in class to the teacher, it was all that I used and if the feedback/exam hasn't changed much over the last few years you will do well. Its excellent!
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To a degree the Met CD will add to the ATPL theory, but should not wholly be used as a replacement. Met is one exam where you will need to learn concepts and be able to draw the picture on the paper to gain the correct answer. With the diagrams and animations on the CD, you should be able to build up a picture of what is going on and apply that to any question by drawing your own sketch. For example, being able to re-produce the CD's jetstream diagram will allow you to answer which way the core is flowing, where the warm/cold air boundaries are and be able to assign heights to each.
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Once you get into the swing of the groundschool it'll be okay .... 
(optimism)
But seriously it is possible and rather than the subject matter or content it's the dedication and time that will be the biggest drags on your motivation. But there is only one way forward and that's to get through and the sooner you start the sooner you finish
(optimism)But seriously it is possible and rather than the subject matter or content it's the dedication and time that will be the biggest drags on your motivation. But there is only one way forward and that's to get through and the sooner you start the sooner you finish
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Having used both CBTs I would recommend them. In particular, the performance CD.
I personally found performance particularly tricky in some areas, the CD uses many diagrams and graphical illustrations that certainly bring the book to life and in my case, helped enormously. The price is steep, but I think you would find the cost a worthwhile investment
WD
I personally found performance particularly tricky in some areas, the CD uses many diagrams and graphical illustrations that certainly bring the book to life and in my case, helped enormously. The price is steep, but I think you would find the cost a worthwhile investment
WD
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Books for JAA Instrument flying.
Hi,
I was wondering which of the many books available covering this subject people would recommend? I have the Trevor Thom book which I am finding very useful, but are there any others?
Thank you for your help.
I was wondering which of the many books available covering this subject people would recommend? I have the Trevor Thom book which I am finding very useful, but are there any others?
Thank you for your help.
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OAT or BGS notes?
Leaving EVERYTHING else out, I would like your feed back on the pros/cons of the OATs books as compared with BGS's.
I have read a lot of feedback saying BGS notes are concise and will help deal with exams better while Oxford's are very comprehensive and detailed hence easier to read (like a story) but harder to study (get the facts in your mind).
I like to study things in details and fit things I learnt together to form a comprehensive view. Hence I don't like to understand things as "black boxes" nor take a fact as it is written. I have the impression that BGS notes are like "black boxes" : Letting you know whatever is needed for the exams without explaining things in details that won't come out for exams. I also thought (after reading a lot of feed back in the threads) that Oxford's notes are like an "aviation encyclopedia". In other words BGS notes are very exam orientated while Oxford's are knowledge based?
If anyone had seen books from both schools, Can I have your opinion on these?
I have read a lot of feedback saying BGS notes are concise and will help deal with exams better while Oxford's are very comprehensive and detailed hence easier to read (like a story) but harder to study (get the facts in your mind).
I like to study things in details and fit things I learnt together to form a comprehensive view. Hence I don't like to understand things as "black boxes" nor take a fact as it is written. I have the impression that BGS notes are like "black boxes" : Letting you know whatever is needed for the exams without explaining things in details that won't come out for exams. I also thought (after reading a lot of feed back in the threads) that Oxford's notes are like an "aviation encyclopedia". In other words BGS notes are very exam orientated while Oxford's are knowledge based?
If anyone had seen books from both schools, Can I have your opinion on these?
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Oxford's books are variable - fabulous in places, not so great in others. I've heard Bristol is the same. I guess this is inevitable when you have lots of different people writing on different subjects. Heaven knows why they don't hire a proper technical writer.
Anyways, what I would say on Oxford's books is that they're currently being re-written, and there are syllabus changes coming in, so unless you're absolutely desperate to get started it would be worth hanging on for a bit. I think the new books will be superb. Anyway, have a word and see how the timescales are looking for these changes.
Anyways, what I would say on Oxford's books is that they're currently being re-written, and there are syllabus changes coming in, so unless you're absolutely desperate to get started it would be worth hanging on for a bit. I think the new books will be superb. Anyway, have a word and see how the timescales are looking for these changes.
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I am doing the OAT course and find the books excellent. I also have the Bristol CDROM which is invaluable for its animations.
What I personally have found that is that OAT books are more comprehensive. If you study each chapter and get a good mark in the progress tests at the end of each topic..you're sorted on that subject. I have found questions from other sources easy after studying through the Oxford notes.
That being true for the most part, I have sometimes arrived at a page and found it just doesn't click. I then read about the subject on the web (e.g. wikipedia or the Bristol CDROM) and voila I get it.
If I dare, I would say that the Oxford notes are a bit like reading the Times compared to reading the Sun. One imparts more knowledge with fewer words than the other!
So, in my experience so far I would suggest having a back-up source of material for cross-reference. I expect this holds true for whichever course is chosen.
What I personally have found that is that OAT books are more comprehensive. If you study each chapter and get a good mark in the progress tests at the end of each topic..you're sorted on that subject. I have found questions from other sources easy after studying through the Oxford notes.
That being true for the most part, I have sometimes arrived at a page and found it just doesn't click. I then read about the subject on the web (e.g. wikipedia or the Bristol CDROM) and voila I get it.
If I dare, I would say that the Oxford notes are a bit like reading the Times compared to reading the Sun. One imparts more knowledge with fewer words than the other!
So, in my experience so far I would suggest having a back-up source of material for cross-reference. I expect this holds true for whichever course is chosen.
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distance atpl
Any views on cranfield aviation atpl would be much appreciated.I am thinking of siging up for the distance atpl,of course the cost being my main factor in comparison to bristol and oxford.Anyone who went through happy to hear from you.
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The Times VS The Sun
"...the Oxford notes are a bit like reading the Times compared to reading the Sun. One imparts more knowledge with fewer words than the other!"
That's a really funny comparison! I wish the BGS notes contain some pictures the sun has!
Anyway I get the idea. I prefer reading the Times.
That's a really funny comparison! I wish the BGS notes contain some pictures the sun has!
Anyway I get the idea. I prefer reading the Times.
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Study materials for PPL/CPL?
Hi guys,
I'm just wondering if anyone can recommend any good books or study materials for the PPL or CPL? And where can I get them? I've done a search but didn't manage to come up with anything concrete (sorry if I failed here). I would like to read up beforehand as I've got some free time with me and not being cannot start training as soon as I intend to.
Secondly, are there any differences to the syllabus of the different regulations like CASA, JAA, CAA or the FAA for example for the PPL/CPL? What are the main differences if there are? I've seen that the JAA and UK CAA always come together. Are there any differences between the 2 syllabi?
Thanks for enlightening. I'm rather confused about the different authorities of the different staes or countries. Appreciate any help!
I'm just wondering if anyone can recommend any good books or study materials for the PPL or CPL? And where can I get them? I've done a search but didn't manage to come up with anything concrete (sorry if I failed here). I would like to read up beforehand as I've got some free time with me and not being cannot start training as soon as I intend to.
Secondly, are there any differences to the syllabus of the different regulations like CASA, JAA, CAA or the FAA for example for the PPL/CPL? What are the main differences if there are? I've seen that the JAA and UK CAA always come together. Are there any differences between the 2 syllabi?
Thanks for enlightening. I'm rather confused about the different authorities of the different staes or countries. Appreciate any help!
