JAA ATPL Ground Exams
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From: Canada
14 exams
Hi everybody,
I have been searching through the archives for the past few days but couldn't make out any conclusions.
I would like to convert my canadian CPL MIFR licences to JAR fATPL. I am looking for a focused ground school that would permit me to do it in a shortest time frame possible (cheapest?). I do have a EU passport and wouldn't mind moving over to UK and sitting in a classroom for couple of month to do it instead of the distance learning thing. Anybody know of any good schools offering such programs?
I have been searching through the archives for the past few days but couldn't make out any conclusions.
I would like to convert my canadian CPL MIFR licences to JAR fATPL. I am looking for a focused ground school that would permit me to do it in a shortest time frame possible (cheapest?). I do have a EU passport and wouldn't mind moving over to UK and sitting in a classroom for couple of month to do it instead of the distance learning thing. Anybody know of any good schools offering such programs?
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From: Toulouse, France
Atlantic flight training
Hi,
I did my ICAO to JAA conversion at Atlantic Flight Training, in Coventry.
It is 5+ star on my rating! They will tailormake your training to your personal needs and legal requirements. Instructors are very competent and friendly, very relaxed but higly professional, high-tec facilities, excelent books, top sims and aircraft.
You can choose distance learning or full time. They have students house at afordable rates.
Try
www.flyaft.com
Good luck
yebo
I did my ICAO to JAA conversion at Atlantic Flight Training, in Coventry.
It is 5+ star on my rating! They will tailormake your training to your personal needs and legal requirements. Instructors are very competent and friendly, very relaxed but higly professional, high-tec facilities, excelent books, top sims and aircraft.
You can choose distance learning or full time. They have students house at afordable rates.
Try
www.flyaft.com
Good luck
yebo
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From: UK
Sorry that this is a little off the subject but do you know if AFT are still running their sponsorship course?
I heard they had stopped it recently and any guys on the course were having to pay for the rest or sod off basically. Any truth in this?
I heard they had stopped it recently and any guys on the course were having to pay for the rest or sod off basically. Any truth in this?
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From: liverpool
Met Exam
I believe this is the worst of the bunch.
Anyone sat it in the last couple of months? Could you tell me anything about the main subject areas (I am assuming Global Climatology) any tips?
(again I am assuming that you just have to learn the bloody lot!)
Anyone sat it in the last couple of months? Could you tell me anything about the main subject areas (I am assuming Global Climatology) any tips?
(again I am assuming that you just have to learn the bloody lot!)
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From: london
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Originally Posted by lloydsky
(I am assuming that you just have to learn the bloody lot!)
Not a dig at you Lloyd, but in general . . .
Can anyone explain, in no more than 20 words, the prevalent attitude of "How little must I learn to pass the exam" attitude ?
The thing is, it's all well and good passing the exam, and any edge you can get on the paper before you sit it is understandable, but once you start working in the aviation industry it'll mean cock all if you can't read a TAF or interpret a Sig Wx chart.
Do yourselves a favour and learn it all for the fact that it will make you a more competent and professional operator and stops you looking an idiot in front of the rest of the crew.
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From: london
met
It is a tough one and does take time to learn, as mentioned the Oxford cd really explaines well, it is also one of the few subjects you actually use when flying. Having knowlege of weather can one day save your life, when weather radar's go on the blink, which they do you need to know what to do.
Save yourself the hassel of learning thick books and difficult explainations, all you need is the CD and you will be fine.
Save yourself the hassel of learning thick books and difficult explainations, all you need is the CD and you will be fine.
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From: uk
Don't agree!!
Global and area climatology does not have to be learned, it is a scientific model with which you can deduce the climate in a region at a specific time of year.
Knowing the movement of the ITCZ will let you deduce global climatology.
Also the direction of upper winds etc can be deduced from scientific models and principles, so its not all learning parrot fashion.
Global and area climatology does not have to be learned, it is a scientific model with which you can deduce the climate in a region at a specific time of year.
Knowing the movement of the ITCZ will let you deduce global climatology.
Also the direction of upper winds etc can be deduced from scientific models and principles, so its not all learning parrot fashion.
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From: liverpool
I agree with most comments.
I have the oxford CD, its quite good but not in all area's. I have always tried to learn and understand the full subject mater as well as useing the feedback even though 80% of the entire course is TOTAL CRAP and probably 95% you will never need.
If the CAA were even remotely interested in quality training they would pour some of the zillions of pounds we give them and modernise the training to include much more relevant and useful knowledge.
And in the exams ALL they are interested in is catching you out with stupid little tricks, not actually testing your knowledge.
I'm on my last lot in 2 1/2 weeks and I cant wait and btw thank goodness for the feed back I have passed all in the 90's 1st time thanks to that!
I have the oxford CD, its quite good but not in all area's. I have always tried to learn and understand the full subject mater as well as useing the feedback even though 80% of the entire course is TOTAL CRAP and probably 95% you will never need.
If the CAA were even remotely interested in quality training they would pour some of the zillions of pounds we give them and modernise the training to include much more relevant and useful knowledge.
And in the exams ALL they are interested in is catching you out with stupid little tricks, not actually testing your knowledge.
I'm on my last lot in 2 1/2 weeks and I cant wait and btw thank goodness for the feed back I have passed all in the 90's 1st time thanks to that!
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From: Newcastle upon Tyne
I would agree in part that most of the Meteorology theory can be deduced from first principles. I have found that a lot can be explained from the movement of the ITCZ alone, especially Global and area climatology, and winds for that matter. As for feedback, i would say with certainty that it is essential. Knowing the theory is great until you see the questions. The guys writing the questions take great pleasure in trying to catch us out. So being able to understand what it is they want to know if half the answer!!
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From: UK
I did the writtens via distance learning with Cabair but bought the Oxford cd for Met which was excellent except for the fact that the narrators' voices became a trifle irritating after a while. I didn't even pick up the Cabair notes and managed 92%. Still, you can't expect to ace them all!
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From: Denmark
Exam questions!
Hello!
Is there anybody that can tell me where i can find the rules concerning which questions that need to be on the written ATPL exam.
Need to know if the exam have to cover basicly every aspect ( chapter) of the book or is that up to the CAA to decide..
Rene
Is there anybody that can tell me where i can find the rules concerning which questions that need to be on the written ATPL exam.
Need to know if the exam have to cover basicly every aspect ( chapter) of the book or is that up to the CAA to decide..
Rene
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From: Denmark
Hey High Wing Drifter!
The site you refer to is how I understand it what, I have to learn during my course.
Might just be me that interpret that wrong.
But I am looking for something the in detail descripes the type of question on the written atpl exam. meaning : x number of questions from this chapter of the book, x number of questions from the next chapter and so on.
Rene
The site you refer to is how I understand it what, I have to learn during my course.
Might just be me that interpret that wrong.
But I am looking for something the in detail descripes the type of question on the written atpl exam. meaning : x number of questions from this chapter of the book, x number of questions from the next chapter and so on.
Rene
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From: UK
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From: England
JAA ATPL Ground Exams
I'm looking to start ATPL full time ground school this summer. I've narrowed it down to 2 FTOs - one does it in 2 modules and the other in 3. Which is best? Am I right in thinking that if it's done in 3 modules then that's 3 sittings? If so, the maximum of 6 sittings looks a bit close!
Anyone's thoughts much appreciated.
Anyone's thoughts much appreciated.
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From: straight jacket required
Guess it really comes down to how much time you have and how you study.
If you pass first time then it doesn't really matter how many modules you do as you won't run out of sittings. Some people find the three modules easier to manage and concentrate on the subjects giving a better life/work balance. Others find that they are happier with cramming them all into two.
It's got to be what is going to work for you.
If you pass first time then it doesn't really matter how many modules you do as you won't run out of sittings. Some people find the three modules easier to manage and concentrate on the subjects giving a better life/work balance. Others find that they are happier with cramming them all into two.
It's got to be what is going to work for you.