Egnatia flight college

[EpsilonVaz]

I received my books a few weeks before I started my 0-fATPL course back in July. As I recall I received the PPL books and a Flight Bag.

I head back to Greece in a few days to start the 2nd module of the ATPL Theory! So far I'm very pleased with Egnatia, I feel it's a great Insitution and the whole environment and "feeling" there is great!

See you guys on Saturday

EpsilonVaz

[Aim High]

Hi Epsilon,

Congrats on your passes in Stage 1 ATPL
I did not see your grades let me know what they were when you can

See you in the New Year
CATS is completing In House Stage 2 in UK for two more weeks
Another instructor is flying over to Greece on Saturday to teach you guys

Its an interesting Stage, Stage 2, but then I think all the subject matter is interesting
If you work as hard as you did for Stage 1 you'll be fine
this stage is 8 weeks long

bye for now

[FougaMagister]

Originally Posted by tumboseppala

do I have to make my MCC in Greece or can I do it for example in Belgium or other CAA country?

MCC-wise, there is an ATR 42/72 full-motion sim at Olympic Aviation in Thessaloniki; it might be worth contacting them to ask whether or not they do MCC courses. MCC courses in Belgium seem quite pricy from what I have seen.

Cheers

[config-2]

Hi,
I have a question for anyone who has experience the flight school. If an aircraft were to go tech, do the full-time students have priority of the modular students for use of the aircraft? I've seen on the website that they have a number of aircraft they can call upon should anything happen, but is this actually the case?
Thank you for your help.

[EpsilonVaz]

Originally Posted by config-2

Hi,
I have a question for anyone who has experience the flight school. If an aircraft were to go tech, do the full-time students have priority of the modular students for use of the aircraft? I've seen on the website that they have a number of aircraft they can call upon should anything happen, but is this actually the case?
Thank you for your help.

There is no Integrated course at Egnatia, all students are Modular. As far as I've heard Egnatia have the option to lease more aircraft from Diamond if it becomes nessasary. I have done most of my hour building and have not had any problem.

[glenroberts]

Hour Building

Wow, looks good (particularly the climate!)...
has anyone gone out there to just do hour building?

[Daniel Asplund]

All positive?

Hi there. As I've been reading thru this treat I get the impression that the school in greece is really good. And I have serious thoughts of going there. Is there anything negative to say about the school or anything to think about before starting the education there? Thru my years I've learned that all places have strong and week sides and it would be nice to know what the weak ones is at Egnatia.

Anyone having a good suggestion how to get there from Sweden? Flying from ARN-KVA get me a price at around €2000, and thats a lot. Is there any cheap airlines that flies to KVA from UK, France or Holland?

//Daniel

[dumdidum]

This Egnatia looks very nice and I'll definitely have to consider this option also. Still, we Finns are fortunate enough to have even less expensive option available(10ke) which I'll try first. Since my probablities are 25 to 1 to get in, I'll keep saving for Egnatia or whichever school I will choose. Need to decide soon though, I just turned 28... But anyways, Egnatia looks very nice indeed =)

One question though. A couple of finnish companies require Finnish licences for some strange reason. Is it possible to turn HCAA to FINCAA(or whatever the correct acronym is) as easy as to UKCAA? After getting fATPL, I need to stay in Finland for at least two years due to the studies of my better half. After that I'll look into moving abroad if such is the mood. Nothing really wrong in Finland either(quite the contrary)... except for the taxes.

btw. Mr Bryce is not considering egnatia anymore. He explains his concerns in his diary.

edit: Nevermind my "one question". Got the answer from another thread and by reading JAR FCL 1.1065. So no prob there.

[PPL152]

Originally Posted by dumdidum

btw. Mr Bryce is not considering egnatia anymore. He explains his concerns in his diary.

He did not consider it anymore due to the fact that in Greece you do not get that much traffic.

There are the ups and downs of this. Personally I would want the airfield to be not too busy for the simple reason that during my training, I'd prefer to focus on learning the stuff I have to learn for the particular licence or rating syllabus, rather than dealing with that, plus an extreme load of traffic whooshing all around me...

On the other hand, if you can stick to it, it's good if during training you're stressed with that plus, however, I don't see it that necessary.

Just my 2p on that.

[FougaMagister]

Originally Posted by PPL152

Personally I would want the airfield to be not too busy for the simple reason that during my training, I'd prefer to focus on learning the stuff I have to learn for the particular licence or rating syllabus, rather than dealing with that, plus an extreme load of traffic whooshing all around me(...) I don't see it that necessary.

On the contrary, better learn on a commercial airport with controlled airspace and a fair amount of traffic. It helps to develop good airmanship from the outset, by having to deal with ATIS, (sometimes) Clearance Delivery, GND, TWR, APP, etc. and to keep the "big picture" of what's happening around you, whether on the ground taxying, flying in the ATZ or further out on the approach.

That way, when progressing to instrument flying, mixing it with airline/bizjet traffic into commercial airports will be one less thing to worry about.

Cheers

[wbryce]

Yep Fouga, I would agree...if you train in a different environment to the one your aiming to fly in then you will need to adapt and thats an avoidable stress...its not a major worry or a big reason not to train in Greece, regardless where you do your training their will always be local considerations which will help factor your decision, my own reasons for not going to Greece well, its a lot of little things that all add up imo and in the end I decided their was too many of them, so I went for the safer and probably the harder option...as much as I would've loved a year out in Greece but unfortunately us poor modular students only really get one clear shot at this!
I visited Egnatia and have no doubt it would be a great place to learn, its very cost effective and it gets you away from your daily life. Its still a relatively new FTO and it will take its time for them to make their own reputation as a provider, good or bad thats in their hands. With their current directors passion for aviation then I dont think this will be a problem, but theirs a lot of little things they could change which would enhance their whole package...good luck to anyone out their training and say hi to Vic for me, the guys falling off the radar scope! Vic, squawk Ident!

[jonnyboy102]

Has anyone been able to get hold of Egnatia? I've sent a few emails with no reply just an automated response. Are they on holiday?

[eurojunkie]

I haven't had any problems contacting them, they usually get back to me within about a day or so. I've been speaking with George on this email:
[email protected]
He has been extremely helpful in answering my many, many questions.

edit: I just got an out of office email, George will return to the office tomorrow.

[tumboseppala]

Yep,

I´ve decided to take part for Egnatia 0 to ATPL program, but I´m having also huge difficulties on making the contact. Sent emails, I got only 1 answered. Maybe I just asked too stupid questions

Anyways, what I was wondering and asked from Egnatia is the accomondation policy after 317 days. For what I understood was that 317 days is the actual lenght of the education, but then U have to take exams that might take total more than 3 weeks in total.

I was just wondering that do I have to pay extra for the accomondation anyways or is the accomondation provided for 317 days + exam days?

Can you guys answer?

I´m meeting my bank-officer tomorrow and we make the papers for the loan. Then it´s just about getting the plane tickets and off we go!

-tumboseppala

[PicMas]

Has anybody done "training to proficiency" with Egnatia?
I hold an FAA ATP and soon a JAA CPL, and was enquiring with Egnatia about an abbreviated course.
If anybody here has done similar, I would like to hear about your experiences.
It may be in vain though, I wrote them 4 days ago, got 3 automated answers but haven't heard anything yet. If they are that busy it would maybe be a good idea to take my business elsewhere?
Is this representative of the flight training? Or merely southern european fluid-time mentality?

[EpsilonVaz]

Has anybody done "training to proficiency" with Egnatia?
I hold an FAA ATP and soon a JAA CPL, and was enquiring with Egnatia about an abbreviated course.
If anybody here has done similar, I would like to hear about your experiences.
It may be in vain though, I wrote them 4 days ago, got 3 automated answers but haven't heard anything yet. If they are that busy it would maybe be a good idea to take my business elsewhere?
Is this representative of the flight training? Or merely southern european fluid-time mentality?

Hi there,

I am a current student at Egnatia doing the 0-ATPL course. As I have said in my previous posts, my experience so far at Egnatia as been exeptional.

I can assure you that they are not being snowed under with students. In my opinion and from what I've seen/heard, I think the reason you have not got any reply so far is becuase of Egnatia getting extremely popular and many, many people making enquiries. As you can imagine it takes a considerable amount of time to respond to each email, and it all adds up.

My advice to you is if you would like fast answers, contact them by telephone, the number is on the website.

Regards,

EpsilonVaz

[georgez]

An official response...

I will try and contribute to as many points as I can.

EMAILS - Please be assured that we always reply to the emails that we receive, irrespective of content, length of email, origin etc. Some of the replies are straight forward, some we have to contact the Hellenic and other country Authorities before we can give a responsible answer. Unfortunately despite the fact that we all work with common JAA rules, certain authorities like to be consulted first when it comes to conversions, renewals etc. So sometimes you have to be patient.

ACCOMMODATION. The training packages include a certain number of calendar days of ‘shared’ accommodation. Shared means that you have your own bedroom but you share kitchen, bathroom and living room areas. We use new clean apartments and the maximum number of bedrooms so far is two. We also use a number of holiday type apartments with or without a separate bedroom, a small kitchen and living area. These are used for “single” accommodation and there is a €7 supplement per day. If you want to bring a family we can find something bigger and let you know the cost.

NUMBER OF DAYS - Regarding the days we include. The number of days does not mean that the course finishes in these days. Nobody in aviation can guarantee you when you will finish training as there are too many variables including the weather, your own progress and commitment etc. We have included an average number of days per training module based on previous experience. If it takes less there is no refund, if it takes longer you pay extra per day. The price for the extra accommodation is always on the appropriate training page. You can even find your own accommodation once you are here and we will deduct an amount from the package price. The reason we have included accommodation is so that people can concentrate on their training, plus they do not have to worry about finding some as soon as they arrive.

Change of State of Issue - Regarding JAA licenses you can change the State of Issue at any time by completing a JAA form.

Keep posting and take care.

Georgez

[ATPLwhoops]

Anyone considering the cheaper Integrated course offered by WAAC in Australia?

Wondered on your views on that one!

ATPLWhoops

[Turbine King]

Surely Egnatia is cheaper being modular?

But the Ground Training is similar - they both use CATS don't they

Hour building in Greece looks great, I've met a few students who have come back with great stories

J.

[the ace of spades]

does anybody know if the ppl course ground school is self study,CAT or taught by an instructor? and with the 0-atpl course, is there any extra charges during the course, say for pre flight briefings or chatting to instructors, etc, above and beyond the 38k the course costs?