Egnatia flight college

[skyhigher]

me/ir at egnatia

hi everyone,

has anyone completed their ir with egnatia. can anyone coment on the ir training, where the ils's are near by and what routes etc you fly?

many thanks,

skyhigher.

[yoda1]

Send them an e-mail and they are very pro at helping you..... remember to keep an eye on my blog as i will be starting their in Jan....

All the best,

+Yoda

http://dreams-of-a-pilot.********.com/

[planeshipcar]

can I sit my ATPLs in the UK if I chose to go here?

[Cirrus_Clouds]

Hi Yoda, can you please let me know the reasons of why you choose Egnatia Flight College in Greece to a college in the UK? ... is it the weather?

I'm putting my research together at the moment and half of me is saying it could be risky learning to fly at a college with no history at all, on top of the normal challenge of obtaining a job at the end; while the package does seem rather good.

I'm considering doing hour building at Egnatia (as I fly the DA40/PA28/38), but looking at doing my main CPL/IR in the UK at a well known college recommended by the CAA.

[FougaMagister]

Originally Posted by Cirrus_Clouds

Hi Yoda, can you please let me know the reasons of why you choose Egnatia Flight College in Greece to a college in the UK? ... is it the weather? (...) I'm considering doing hour building at Egnatia (as I fly the DA40/PA28/38), but looking at doing my main CPL/IR in the UK at a well known college recommended by the CAA.

Note: the UK CAA (like its equivalent in any other JAA member State) does NOT recommend any Flight Training Organisation. They only publish a list (available on the CAA's website) of all UK JAA-approved FTOs.

Better flying weather means faster courses, certainly for the part which involves VFR (such as most of the CPL). There are pro and cons to both UK and Continental options.

Cheers

[yoda1]

Hi

Hi Yoda, can you please let me know the reasons of why you choose Egnatia Flight College in Greece to a college in the UK? ... is it the weather?

I'm putting my research together at the moment and half of me is saying it could be risky learning to fly at a college with no history at all, on top of the normal challenge of obtaining a job at the end; while the package does seem rather good.

I'm considering doing hour building at Egnatia (as I fly the DA40/PA28/38), but looking at doing my main CPL/IR in the UK at a well known college recommended by the CAA

Hi M8,

First off Egnatia is a greek registered FTO and thus part of the JAA network. Although the school does not appear in the UKCAA approved FTO's it is registered under the HCAA and i confirmed this by phoning them and asking (HCAA). Any license earned is given you by the HCAA but is JAA and is easily transferred to UKCAA. I know this because i asked egnatia and i phoned the ukcaa. Once any licenses are obtained, if you want to change the state of issue from HCAA to UKCAA then you need to complete the following form:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FORSRG1136.PDF

I have been researching flight training for about 6-7 years and have consequently looked at all options (integrated and modular). If you have a look at my blog i always wanted to go integrated however careful research and advice from 'pruners' such as scroggs, pilot pete, mike cr etc made me look at the modular route from a fresh perpective. Basically i decided if i did not get into a mentored scheme i would go modular.

Looking at the financial implications off going to egnatia against other ftos (that i was considering) it makes sense. Secondly off course the weather helps as i want it done as quickly as possible. Now if all goes according to plan and i don't need to retake anything or add any extra lessons potentially i can have my cpl/ir in 317 days.

Yes it is a risk going to a FTO with no history i am prepared to take the risk for the following reasons:

1) Reading wbryces thoughts about the school. (click on diaries and choosing flight school links)

2) Egnatia's professional attitude in answering all my questions (trust me there were many and i am sure dave and george are sick of me now lol )

3) The structure of the course.

4) The flexible 'pay as you go' approach.

5) Talking to them at the flyer show.

6) Reading other students accounts of the place.

7) The facilities such as new aircraft, accomodation offices.

8) Reading the flexible terms and conditions.

9) Price.

10) Quality of training

11) Accommodation included in the price.

12) All training been conducted in one place as i don't want to move around from school to school.

13) And last but not least being in greece!

Now i know some of you are proabably thinking that i should have gone and visited the place as young William Bryce did however i go on 'gut' instinct. My sixth form, university were chosen this way and i had no problems. But i recommend anyone else visit the place as i just want to get on with it now after most of my twenties being spent on my ass earning the money to train as a pilot.

I did consider other schools in the US but i decided against it because after working through the costs it works out the same and in some cases more expensive than egnatia. Also i want to stay in european airspace with the uk being round the corner just incase i need to get back.

I am not worried about getting a job yet but i do have a strategy which hopefully will enable me to get a job once i complete by training without anyform of nepotism

Keep an eye on my blog as i will be updating it daily with my flying adventures when i start early next year.

Good luck with whatever you decide and if you come to egnatia look me up.

+Yoda1

[planeshipcar]

I can see my previous post is going to be completely ignored so I'll try again!

Can I sit a commercial training course in Greece is I've done my ATPL theoryin England?

[pilot-320]

CPL/IR

Sure u can mate!

Many current students have finished their theory in the UK and now hourbuilding and flying towards their cpl!

[OnRoute]

Originally Posted by pilot-320

Sure u can mate!

Many current students have finished their theory in the UK and now hourbuilding and flying towards their cpl!

Doesn't UK CAA have anything against it that the students do their theoretical training in one JAA country and flight training for CPL in an other? I've been asking our local CAA here north and they answered me that this option is only available if the student has a good reason for doing the training in some other country (permanent moving to other country or something equivalent). They don't have anything against doing ratings in other JAA countries but new licenses seem to be a big no-no.

[wbryce]

Planechipper,

Unfortunately if you do your theory in a different JAA state other than the UK then you cannot do the CPL/IR in the UK, I dont know if its vice versa but the likelyhood it is...mainly because it would be two different authorities overseaing the examination procedures...otherwise it could be a small loop hole i.e. do your exams in another state with lower requirements then move to another state with higher theory requirements for flight training etc etc...

albeit the question bank is global between the JAA states.

[upup&away]

I am self employed,and i would like to go to Egnatia in Greece to do my frozen 0-atpl training.I feel that the residential course suits me better,however i wonder if it is possible to say do 3 months in Greece and maybe have a month off,so i can make sure that my business is ok, and key staff can take leave etc.
Once i gain my qualifications i plan to lease my businesses so it wont be a problem then.
I understand that the course will take a little longer,but the benefits of being able to come home and see my kids,and make sure the business is ok would make it worth it!

[tumboseppala]

Hello Guys,

It has been very interesting to read about Engatia, since my 2,5 year research has came to an end and I´ve pretty considered to go to Greece. As somebody else said above "last but not least, living in Greece" and enjoying the weather.

I´m Finn, currently living in Helsinki and I´ve planned my studies toward ATPL for 2,5 yrs already. Couple of months ago I was very much going for NEAR/NAIA, and it´s still open but Greece seems better since its in EU.

I sent long email to Egnatia almost 2 weeks ago, and tried to call them couple of times, but no answer! What is the problem. Are they enjoying Chrismas holiday season or do they have enough students already?

What it comes to the course itself, I´m gonna make 0 to ATPL full course 317 days. Is MCC course included?

How about family apartment. I´ve planned to go together with my wife (no children). Engatia web site is saying that they have family apartments but is it included to the price 46.190 eur. ?

I know that these questions might be somewhere in the topic but there´s ****loads of stuff, so it take ages to read it through

Happy new Year!

-tumboseppala

[AlphaMale]

Originally Posted by tumboseppala

How about family apartment. I´ve planned to go together with my wife (no children). Engatia web site is saying that they have family apartments but is it included to the price 46.190 eur. ?

I doubt very much that a family room is the same price as a single room

Originally Posted by tumboseppala

I know that these questions might be somewhere in the topic but there´s ****loads of stuff, so it take ages to read it through

There is a lot there, but you'll probably get the answer you're looking for aswel as picking up extra information that you have been looking for further down the line
I am sure you'll have a reply soon but it is the holiday period so I am sure they have a backlog of e-mails to answer.
Good luck

[tumboseppala]

Originally Posted by AlphaMale

I doubt very much that a family room is the same price as a single room

Me too, but on the other hand, straigt quote from Egnatia web site

Originally Posted by Egnatia web site

We provide a large range of accommodation to suit your requirements including:
• Two bedroom family apartments with kitchen and bathroom
• Single apartments with private kitchen and bathroom
• Single rooms sharing kitchen and bathroom
All accommodation is carefully selected and is included in the cost, as well as transport to and from the airport.

http://www.egnatia-aviation.com/Accommodation.htm

There is a lot there, but you'll probably get the answer you're looking for aswel as picking up extra information that you have been looking for further down the line

That´s very much the truth and I keep reading through the topic, and it gives me nice information.

Thanks,

-tumboseppala

[AlphaMale]

I can see what you mean with:

We provide a large range of accommodation to suit your requirements including:
• Two bedroom family apartments with kitchen and bathroom
• Single apartments with private kitchen and bathroom
• Single rooms sharing kitchen and bathroom
All accommodation is carefully selected and is included in the cost, as well as transport to and from the airport.

I guess it's not all that clear. He'll be on here to set you straight I'm sure.

Safe landings and a Happy New Year to you.

[Speed bird 002]

Ello people, I am planning to start With Egnatia on the 0-ATPL programme in June and I have my class 1 booked on 2nd Jan. Can you guys tell me what PPL Preperation i would recieve once i pay my deposit. I'v not looked at the study guides before and have never used a CRP-5. Secondly, there has been a person stating about a possible package with Bond Aviation and an open evening, can anyone tell me when that is organised for, has i will be arriving in Athens on 4th Jan, 2 days after my medical.

Many Thanks and Happy new Year

Hayder.

[tumboseppala]

Originally Posted by AlphaMale

I can see what you mean with:

We provide a large range of accommodation to suit your requirements including:
• Two bedroom family apartments with kitchen and bathroom
• Single apartments with private kitchen and bathroom
All accommodation is carefully selected and is included in the cost, as well as transport to and from the airport.

Hello,

That is exactly what I mean, and to be honest it would´t be so bad service anyway. If you think it through, they are providing equal service for all applicants, whoever is in different situation in life.

Well...I´ll keep on waiting and contact there again on the beginning of 2007 to see can I get a reply.

Happy new year to all ya!!!

-tumboseppala

[yoda1]

Hi,

Is MCC course included?

Mcc is not included..but its relatively cheap to do anyway...

Can you guys tell me what PPL Preperation i would recieve once i pay my deposit. I'v not looked at the study guides before and have never used a CRP-5

Same here m8. I am due to start on the 0-fatpl course next week. I payed my deposit in december and I have not received anything by post so one would assume they give you it when you arrive but i guess you can request it from them if you are raring to go.

Keep an eye on my blog and i will update it regularly....

Well...I´ll keep on waiting and contact there again on the beginning of 2007 to see can I get a reply

They always answer my e-mails promptly when i send it to them. Try these:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Send them all one e-mail and one of them will respond.

Hope to see you guys out there....

[tumboseppala]

Mcc is not included..but its relatively cheap to do anyway...

Fair enough, didn´t thought so in the first place . Anyways, what it comes to MCC course and HCAA provided ATPL+CPL etc. do I have to make my MCC in Greece or can I do it for example in Belgium or other CAA country?

And thanks Yoda1 for extra e-mails. I actually think they are enjoying little Christmas holidays, since I emailed there on 20th of Dec, just under Christmas time. I try to keep calm .

But one thing needs to be asked in here. When does the courses begin? Do they have new entries once a month or twice a year?

Thanks

-tumboseppala

[yoda1]

Hi,

do I have to make my MCC in Greece or can I do it for example in Belgium or other CAA country?

You can do your mcc anywhere in a JAA country. I personally plan to do my licenses in Greece and as soon as i get back to the uk, i intened to change the state issue from the HCAA to UKCAA then do my MCC here.

When does the courses begin? Do they have new entries once a month or twice a year?

I may be wrong about this but i think they have a intake every 3 months...i'll let the egnatia guys correct me if i am wrong...

Oohh i am so excited, just a few more things to pack and i am ready to go