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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 07:55
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I can't seem to find Egnatia College as an appoved training organisation in CAP682.

How often does the document get updated??

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Approved FTO

Dear Slow Progress

CAP682 includes Approved FTOs obtained UK-CAA approval. Egnatia Aviation is a Greek Based FTO registered in Greece. The reg. No is GR-FTO-006. Greece is fully recognised and an active member of JAA since 2004. Licences issued by the "Hellenic" Civil Aviation Authority (HCAA) are full JAA licences and have the same value as any other JAA license.

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Dimitris,

Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

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Also one other thing,

Does Egnatia Flying College have any links with uk Banks to provide funding for the 0 - FATPL.

Probably going to struggle to get a secured loan as I don't have a property.

Any Ideas??

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Originally Posted by Slow Progress
Also one other thing,

Does Egnatia Flying College have any links with uk Banks to provide funding for the 0 - FATPL.

Probably going to struggle to get a secured loan as I don't have a property.

Any Ideas??

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Plan your course of action, if your going to struggle for an unsecured loan then why not work for a little while and save up some cash? then apply for a CDL and/or small unsecured loan.

Remember, spending cash will most likely not stop after trainings completed...too many operators now want TR's/bonding schemes (another 20k) or FI rating (another 5-6k).

Remember, monthly repayments for normal bank loans starts straight away so if your training for your fATPL you must factor in a great deal of redundancy for non payments over a large period of time especially since employment straight after training is very rarely achieved.
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Interesting thread. Egnatia Flying College seems to be following a similar course to a US FTO I attended at the start of my modular flight training a few years ago. For instance, starting with a brand new fleet of high-tech training aircraft, spending on proper facilities and accommodation, being based at a proper commercial airport (training in a commercial environment, mixing it with airline traffic and using procedures specific to commercial airports from the outset does pay dividends later on), recruiting ground and flight instructors from European "client" countries, etc.

It is also a fact that a "start-up" is always more willing to go the extra mile to accommodate the requirements of its students, as opposed to some long-established FTOs sometimes resting on their laurels a bit too much...

Of course, before commiting the amount of money we are talking about, one should always ask all relevant questions, ask for advice and eventually visit the "finalist" FTOs (and ask more questions), but Egnatia seems to be offering an interesting alternative to notoriously overpriced UK-based FTOs - and even to the popular Spanish option.

In other words, if I was to start flight training now (not that I would want to do it all over again), I would definitely consider Egnatia Fying College.

Cheers

P.S.: also, Kevala looks much better as a training environment than the Midlands in winter...
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Egnatia training college

Hello all,
Very interesting to see how much interest there is on egnatia. for a first time user of pprune it is facinating to read such passionate comments from registered members, moderators and spectators alike. It considates how seriously the aviation industry is taken by so many individual's today.

For anyone that is interested, I have just gained a JAA licence in Greece at Egnatia and as I have heard so much of pprune over the past weeks that i felt compelled to register and leave some comments about my findings.I hope they may be of use to any one considering flight traing in the near future.

I am, as so many are, an aspiring pilot, who one day hopes to be in a position to apply for FO positions within the air transport sector, whether it be with national carriers or corperate operators.

I had spent years perusing through the back pages of several popular flying magazines, I had also sent emails to many FTO's to digest their set-up's and prices and I too had been caught short of a decision as to how,where and why.

I trust you will treat my following comments as gospel and can only ask you to appreciate that I have taken time to orchestrate this post to be as neutral as possible with respect to the sensitivity linked with members scepticism regarding such subscribed posts.

Here we go!

The school is based in an international airport (LGKV, 3000m runways) Taxying out to holding points/ landing in front of heavy jets (73's,320's & 330's) is an experience dreams are made of. Listening to the pro's mess up a position report or wrongly repeat taxi instructions only reinforces the realisation that the big boys are meer mortals like us.

Flight/ground training is provided by an experienced team of career instructors whilst progress checks are frequently carried out by the 5000 hour CFI. All have become very good friends as well as respected peers.

The fleet of aircraft are all VFR/IFR diamonds(DA40 & DA42). They speak for themselves.

The school itself is housed adjacent to the main terminal and is in very good order complete with rest areas, kitchen,vending machine's and wi'fi connection as well as the usual facilities you would expect.

Respectable complex style accommodation was provided in an area called Keramoti which is a coastal village town 15 minutes drive from the airport. A beach,numerous restaraunts and bars are within a 5 minute walk as well as a half hour ferry ride to the island of thassos.

A company vehicle runs a daily shuttle service at 0815am although some students hired cars.

The airspace in Greece is wide open for GA traffic. I personally visited several Islands during my training and concluded my course by flying myself to Thessaloniki international (2nd busiest in Greece) for my return journey back to the UK.

Happy day's

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Just to reiterate what Slow Progress said, does anyone know if Egnatia have any deals set up with the banks like what HSBC did, if not anything in the pipeline??? The HSBC shattered my dreams a few years ago when they stopped the Pro. Studies loan. I could never give up work to do it unless you could defer the loan until after 6 months after the course ends.
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advice needed.

Hi, I have been reading the Egnatia thread and am liking the school however I would hopefully be making a personal visit in the near future. I have a few questions that some of you guys may have answers to. Roughly how long does it take to complete the full 0-(frozen) ATPL course?
Is the course likely to increase in price in 2007, if yes by roughly how much?
Any one completed their training at Egnatia yet as i believe a while ago some1 was saying some people will be completing their training? What are their situations now?
Are their any selection processes?
Is it better for me to do my medical in Greece or do it here in the UK? What is the difference apart from costs?
Also my current situation is that I have started a degree course, but my ultimate goal in life is to become a successful airline pilot, Reason I started the degree because I do not have a class 1 medical and their are no guarantees that I will pass it, therefore I thought it would be wise to start the degree just in case things didn’t work out. I will not think of leaving university until I am certain that I will be starting my flight training. I would appreciate any advice on what I could do? (PMS welcome)i.e. complete the degree, do 2 years of me degree and take a year out to do pilot training? Also, a reason to why I don’t want to do a degree in the first place is that I will be in a considerable amount of debt, therefore I will most likely have to work for a few years and delay my flight training further which I don’t want to be doing. Although I am aware of the some of the benefits of having a degree.
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aftab I guess it's horses for courses really. I have wanted to fly planes (BizJets/Airline/Instructor) since I was 6 years old on my first trip on a 747 to Florida, unfortunatly when I finished my A levels I didn't have £30k/£40k in my bank and I couldn't see anybody lending an 18 year old that amount of money to achive a dream job.

I went to Uni got my degree and I now work as a Web/Graphic Designer earning enough money to self fund myself through a £40k aviation school to gain the needed qualifications and hours.

Having a degree is a good back up just incase I can't get picked up by an airline but if I am lucky enough to get an interview I am sure the BSc will look good on my CV. Many will agree that if you get the chance to go to Uni do it, you'll learn more about yourself and life in many ways. Join the Univesity Air Sqn and get some flying experience under your belt.

Good luck

Egnatia looks like a top class school too

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Whats the best and cheapest route to get there from London airports?
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Originally Posted by edymonster
Whats the best and cheapest route to get there from London airports?
Edymonster,

I'm flying out their a week tomorrow and this question had me stressed out for a day or two trying to find the best route possible.

My findings were

BA, Gatwick to Thessaloniki (LGTS or SKG), bus or ask the school to come collect you. You can get a bus from the local bus station to Kavala, its about a 2 hour journey I think, I dont have any information on how to get the bus station - local taxi would be best option.

Failing this if you have more time on your hands you can fly to Athens either BA or Easyjet and take a commuter (Olympic or Aegean) to Kavala. I looked at this option but I seem to remember that you had to wait until the following day to make the connecting flights (think its only 1 per day).
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Thanks alot, i will have a look at your option you suggest. Had a look a domestic flights and there actually 2 flights a day. One early morning and one late afternoon. It is about 100 pound return just for the domestic flight if you book early in advance.
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Depends how rich you are!! but Id be off to LGTS and bus to Kavala!

I was able to understand my plan better after looking at a map of Greece and familiarising myself with Thessaloniki and Kavala. http://www.enchantedlearning.com/eur...ce/map/big.GIF simpliest ones are the best!
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Is there anybody at Egantia just now with a family in tow using the 2 bedroom family apartments? Would be nice to get a bit more info as I'm planning on starting there next year and will be planning on taking my wife, son and new-born with me. Anybody else with family considering Egnatia?
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Can anyone give me a bit of info in what there is to see while hour building form Kavala airport? Is it good backpacking country or do you always have to return to base every night? Also what is the deal with isalnd hopping in a SE aircraft, is it encouraged or is it not recommended by the establishment?
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hi alpha male, thanks for the reply, how do i join the university air squadrons?? any1 else that cn help plz reply, thanks
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Originally Posted by aftab
hi alpha male, thanks for the reply, how do i join the university air squadrons?? any1 else that cn help plz reply, thanks
Usually you'll find these at the fresher days with a stall, they are all walking around in flight gear (well they were at my uni). I did ask them a couple of questions and was ready to do ahead with it ... but for some reason nothing ever came from it and I could never find them after that (looking back I wish I had made more effort - I don't think it would be that hard to get in contact with the Uni social/sports club to ask for a number/info).

Good luck in your quest ... as most have said throughout this forum. Don't put all your eggs in on basket. I'll have 2.5 years of Web/Graphic Design work experience and a BSc to fall back onto. The reality is there are a lot of people on here that are quite bitter about not getting an airline job after 2 years and £70k of training. Don't let them put you off.

If I can change my career path from working in an office 9-5 to flying 8-6 as a CFI/FI for less money I'll be quite a happy fella. Anything more is a bonus - A Dash 8 would be good ... a Learjet better ... A 737/320 would just be a dream come true!

Andrew

(I think your Air Squadren will be based at RAF Church Fenton - See here http://www.universityairsquadrons.com/ and here http://www.yuas.dial.pipex.com/)
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Egnatia's website is full of lost links and they still haven't sent me any information or even replied to my email.

Hardly what you'd expect from a professional flying school!!

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Egnatia's website is full of lost links and they still haven't sent me any information or even replied to my email.

Hardly what you'd expect from a professional flying school!!

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Hi, i sent them a e-mail and they responded almost immediately. Maybe they are busy . Send the an e-mail to the following people:

[email protected]
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