CAA/JAA Aviation Medical & related issues
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You could get to PPL, Hour building, ATPL ground exams stage without a class 1. However a class 1 is requred for CPL issue, and valid class 1 audigram is required for IR. Although you can do the CPL without the class 1 as it is dual, it is required for license issue, consequently you could not take the MCC.
So in response to your question you could not gain an fATPL then fail the medical. You could fail the medical which would disallow you to reach fATPL.
If you are talking about a Class 1 renewal failure then this could be a possibility, however I note that you do not have a Class1 yet. Best advice is take class1 first.
So in response to your question you could not gain an fATPL then fail the medical. You could fail the medical which would disallow you to reach fATPL.
If you are talking about a Class 1 renewal failure then this could be a possibility, however I note that you do not have a Class1 yet. Best advice is take class1 first.
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Medical Insurance
Ritzer
Had same concerns - lot of money to shell out then lose your medical day after finishing your MCC! Like everyone else I would recommend you obtain your Class 1 medical first then you know for sure, but you can insure agianst loss of training fees etc with several companies - quick web-search will reveal some: one I know of is www.traffords-insurance.co.uk.
RD
Had same concerns - lot of money to shell out then lose your medical day after finishing your MCC! Like everyone else I would recommend you obtain your Class 1 medical first then you know for sure, but you can insure agianst loss of training fees etc with several companies - quick web-search will reveal some: one I know of is www.traffords-insurance.co.uk.
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IAA medical?
My current class 1 medical is Issued by the Irish Aviation Authority, as I am attending the JAA Career Pilot Programme in NAC starting next month do I need to get a CAA Class 1?
Any help appreciated.
Any help appreciated.
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I think probably, though you may not. In my experience though it is easier to do everything through the one system so I recommend you do. Ask the aeromedical centre to send your details to the CAA, look on the CAA website and you will find a form to convert your medical. Ensure the IAA know you are only changing your medical and not your state of licence issue as unless you can prove you now live in the UK, you will not be entitled to do this.
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Class 1 medical, MEP and IR renewals
I have attempted a search but found no real relevant information, so I apologise if this has been mentioned before.
In short, my MEP and IR will be due for renewal for the first time later this summer and my class 1 medical is due to expire later this month. Money is very tight, so all I really need to know is what needs to be renewed as a priority? My class one medical would seem to be a no-brainer, if this lapses, would it cause any problems other than I could not fly on my CPL?
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JAS
In short, my MEP and IR will be due for renewal for the first time later this summer and my class 1 medical is due to expire later this month. Money is very tight, so all I really need to know is what needs to be renewed as a priority? My class one medical would seem to be a no-brainer, if this lapses, would it cause any problems other than I could not fly on my CPL?
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JAS
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JAS, Ref; MEP/IR/Class1Med',
I too have to renew all the above this summer. I'm gona try and get 'em all up to date, but if your job hunting I'd definately get the Medical and IR done.You never know, but you may get a last minute call.
Good Luck.
Ps Look into doing the Ir renewal at Bournemouth with Mike Boulton on the FNPT2 ( Do a search), thats if money's an issue.
I too have to renew all the above this summer. I'm gona try and get 'em all up to date, but if your job hunting I'd definately get the Medical and IR done.You never know, but you may get a last minute call.
Good Luck.
Ps Look into doing the Ir renewal at Bournemouth with Mike Boulton on the FNPT2 ( Do a search), thats if money's an issue.
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sawotanao, thanks for the tip.I know someone who would be able to help me out with the IR renewal, I'm just worried about how long it would take for me to get up to speed and pass lol 
It shouldn't be too bad, I'll start hitting rant again.......... its a bad situation, applying for airline positions, yet not having the money to keep current 
Ahhh well, at least Instrument flying is what I love
It shouldn't be too bad, I'll start hitting rant again.......... its a bad situation, applying for airline positions, yet not having the money to keep current Ahhh well, at least Instrument flying is what I love
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hello there.
First of all, depending on what you want to do later, there may be no need for the ME to be kept current. - If your goal is a multicrew aircraft, all you will need is the multi IR to be current, and for this an FNPT2 is sufficient. Maybe a few hours of a simpler (and cheaper) sim thrown in before.
If you do need the ME too, then may I suggest bemoair.cz (I have no affiliation - just a happy customer). Their L200 Morava is well maintained and one of the cheaper options of flying a ME aircraft (I think it was 220 Euros / hour all incl.). Of course their instructors are JAR.
And on your way you can do your medical class 1 renewal, no appointment needed and 55 Euros (this January, when I did it). - All the info is here on this site.
cheers, IP
First of all, depending on what you want to do later, there may be no need for the ME to be kept current. - If your goal is a multicrew aircraft, all you will need is the multi IR to be current, and for this an FNPT2 is sufficient. Maybe a few hours of a simpler (and cheaper) sim thrown in before.
If you do need the ME too, then may I suggest bemoair.cz (I have no affiliation - just a happy customer). Their L200 Morava is well maintained and one of the cheaper options of flying a ME aircraft (I think it was 220 Euros / hour all incl.). Of course their instructors are JAR.
And on your way you can do your medical class 1 renewal, no appointment needed and 55 Euros (this January, when I did it). - All the info is here on this site.
cheers, IP
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Have a serious think about this. I'm sure that you can raise the funds - you've demonstrated that by doing the CPL/IR in the first place !!!
Remember that if you do not renew the IR, chances are that a job or job application form will come up where you are asked "ARE you current". And there will be more than 5 or 6 other bods who did make the effort to be current and will get ahead of you who is not ?
Why reduce your slim chances of getting a flying job by not making a bit of effort once a year ? Its a cut throat world out there. Granted, that most operators don't always require you to be Mep current, but doesn't it say something about the candidate that feels that he/she does not need to make a bit of effort with their career ?
Good Luck - there are plenty of places to renew ratings and they don't have to be done at scabair or twoxford prices.
Remember that if you do not renew the IR, chances are that a job or job application form will come up where you are asked "ARE you current". And there will be more than 5 or 6 other bods who did make the effort to be current and will get ahead of you who is not ?
Why reduce your slim chances of getting a flying job by not making a bit of effort once a year ? Its a cut throat world out there. Granted, that most operators don't always require you to be Mep current, but doesn't it say something about the candidate that feels that he/she does not need to make a bit of effort with their career ?
Good Luck - there are plenty of places to renew ratings and they don't have to be done at scabair or twoxford prices.
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Jenson Button, its not the effort that is an issue, I will always give my career all I can. Its the lack of a job and paying out for my loan with zero income, the two don't go together. I do have a possible short term contract for a ramp job coming up, if I don't get it (due to paperwork issues) then I have a problem.
I can get my IR renewal done fairly cheply at my old FTO, but I may have to beg, borrow and steal yet again to do it. That is the point
The main question is...... do I have to be current to be able to apply to airlines?
Cheers
JAS
I can get my IR renewal done fairly cheply at my old FTO, but I may have to beg, borrow and steal yet again to do it. That is the point
The main question is...... do I have to be current to be able to apply to airlines?
Cheers
JAS
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According to JAR prior to starting a type rating, must have a current Multi Engine Instrument Rating.
You must also have a medical that is valid and covers the period in which you intend the licence to be issued.
Additionally it must be current if your training requires (base training) circuits in the real aircraft.
Sorry dont remember where I read it.
You must also have a medical that is valid and covers the period in which you intend the licence to be issued.
Additionally it must be current if your training requires (base training) circuits in the real aircraft.
Sorry dont remember where I read it.
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the only thing you need to apply to the airlines is a stamp.
however, without a valid medical and IR you will find your application will soon be filed in the round metal recepticle. and speaking from experience, when you do get a call from a company, it will be a call on thursday, interview friday, type rating starting on the monday. without your medical or IR you won't get the call on the thursday.
bite the bullet and get yourself current.
however, without a valid medical and IR you will find your application will soon be filed in the round metal recepticle. and speaking from experience, when you do get a call from a company, it will be a call on thursday, interview friday, type rating starting on the monday. without your medical or IR you won't get the call on the thursday.
bite the bullet and get yourself current.
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when you do get a call from a company, it will be a call on thursday, interview friday, type rating starting on the monday. without your medical or IR you won't get the call on the thursday.
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Thanks for the advice. To be honest I always thought that I should do all I can to renew, i'm just starting to feel the pinch of financial pressure that we all go through.
Can't wait to get in the FNPT ll again
What was that word again? Interview was it? Would love to see one of them
Cheers
JAS
Can't wait to get in the FNPT ll again
What was that word again? Interview was it? Would love to see one of them
Cheers
JAS
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Just another student,
I fully agree with Cragg and Co.
I know the money side is painful...been there done that and got the t-shirt.
To be honest matey, if it means pulling a few more pints, cleaning a few more toilets, even pimping your body on some street corner with a "women/bloke" three times your age. It will be bleedin worth it, if the next day you get that lucky phone call.
"What did you do to go the extra mile ?" - interview question !!!!
Beg, borrow, steal if you have to.
Good luck.
I fully agree with Cragg and Co.
I know the money side is painful...been there done that and got the t-shirt.
To be honest matey, if it means pulling a few more pints, cleaning a few more toilets, even pimping your body on some street corner with a "women/bloke" three times your age. It will be bleedin worth it, if the next day you get that lucky phone call.
"What did you do to go the extra mile ?" - interview question !!!!
Beg, borrow, steal if you have to.
Good luck.
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even pimping your body on some street corner with a "women/bloke" three times your age. It will be bleedin worth it, if the next day you get that lucky phone call.
Reminds me of a scene out of the film 'Team America'
How have you gone the extra mile? (asks the Chief Captain)..........
I was broke and ...well she was 104 years old and 35 stone.... I don't really want to talk about it
I'll get the money some how, most of us have been in the same situation at some point or another. I just hope in a few years time I can think back to now and smile, knowing that I have achieved what I set out to do.
I'll hop in a FNPT ll and get my Multi IR sorted, will be good fun anyway as my examiner is a top bloke.
Now then........... I know I've got a black balaclava and a pair of nylon tights around here somewhere..... hmmmmm... where is nearest bank?
Cheers
JAS