Licence Conversion to JAA
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Nimbus - you've got it... the 650 hour waver was what I was looking for. Now this is the thing.....I attempted the 14 exams about 4 years ago. Passed everything (but two - 71% met and 74% PoF) and my sittings ran out....now guess what, they took them all away. So I have actually studied the residential course with London Guildhall. Now, I have done the required studying using new note I got a hold of on my own, but just want to sit the exams. Do I still have to get London Guildhall to sign me off for them (I'm not based in Orlando) or should I ask Naples (just as a matter of logistics) to sign me of. Or will nobody sign me off until I've jumped though more hoops.... Long story short - I just want to give the exams another go.... HOW???
All the answers you require are in LASORS J1.5. The relevant bit would appear to be:
However, I am no expert in this area so you would be well advised to consult LASORS, the CAA and/or a suitable training provider to ensure you have the correct information.
A candidate who only completed ATPL, CPL and/or IR theoretical knowledge instruction at the discretion of an approved training provider i.e. conversion from a non-JAA qualification, will be required to complete further theoretical knowledge instruction at the discretion of an approved training provider.
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Reinstating Canadian CPL and conversion to European licenses
Hi Thread,
It’s been apparently a long time that you’ve posted your note. Now, my response is more like another question because I’m also interested by this subject.
I have an expired Canadian Commercial Multi IFR license because I haven't flown since I came back to Europe in December 1999. My licenses in Europe are not recognized. In the JAR, I was told that I would have had to re-take everything – even the flying hours (i.e. 45 hours for my Private, etc.) ... I'm not willing to do that! Now, there are some schools in America that would propose this kind of conversion and I’m looking for some additional information about people who did it. Maybe could you help me out finding this information?
Thanks in advance,
Thierry
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It’s been apparently a long time that you’ve posted your note. Now, my response is more like another question because I’m also interested by this subject.
I have an expired Canadian Commercial Multi IFR license because I haven't flown since I came back to Europe in December 1999. My licenses in Europe are not recognized. In the JAR, I was told that I would have had to re-take everything – even the flying hours (i.e. 45 hours for my Private, etc.) ... I'm not willing to do that! Now, there are some schools in America that would propose this kind of conversion and I’m looking for some additional information about people who did it. Maybe could you help me out finding this information?
Thanks in advance,
Thierry
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Conversion to Jar
Hi Everyone
I have a Canadian CPL IFR with 1200hrs & I am wishing to convert my licenses to Jar.
I live in the UK but am willing to go anywhere for training
Could anybody recommend A, a ground school course to complete my JAR exams preferably residential, & B a flt school I could convert my License.
Any offers would be greatly appreciated thankyou
Flz
I have a Canadian CPL IFR with 1200hrs & I am wishing to convert my licenses to Jar.
I live in the UK but am willing to go anywhere for training
Could anybody recommend A, a ground school course to complete my JAR exams preferably residential, & B a flt school I could convert my License.
Any offers would be greatly appreciated thankyou
Flz
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questionbanks
Originally Posted by sandy727
Does any one know if there exists a bank of questions or a guide for the theory exams for for the JAR (ex CAA) ATPL in the UK and where to obtain same. Perplexingly yours...
[This message has been edited by sandy727 (edited 18 September 2000).]
[This message has been edited by sandy727 (edited 18 September 2000).]
http://www.aerosolutions.be/abacus/index.php
aviationexam is the best one I think and also the cheapest.
enjoy
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doh....
Originally Posted by mcgoo
sega not sure if you spotted it but your replying to a 6 year old post!
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Hi there, try www.bristol.gs. they have an average pass rate of over 98% and their questions are very good, highly recommend them.
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Conversion with a twist
Hi
Hope to get things sorted out.
I have a FAA CPL, ME-IR and want to convert to JAA
My JAA CPL and MEP is from the UK. I want to do my conversion course in Sweden, and then attach the JAA ME-IR from Sweden to my UK CPL.
Reason: Cheeper high quality training, and another huge factor......
Sweden dont have a 15 hour minimum for the conversion.... It is up to the FTO.
Problem is, that I have from different sources been told, that I still have to do 15 hours in Sweden, because I want to attach the license to a UK CPL.
Can this be right.
Thought that they had to approve a JAA license (which the rating from Sweden will be) from any full JAA state..Regardless of hours in the course... I mean, a JAA license is a JAA license.
Hope to get things sorted out.
I have a FAA CPL, ME-IR and want to convert to JAA
My JAA CPL and MEP is from the UK. I want to do my conversion course in Sweden, and then attach the JAA ME-IR from Sweden to my UK CPL.
Reason: Cheeper high quality training, and another huge factor......
Sweden dont have a 15 hour minimum for the conversion.... It is up to the FTO.
Problem is, that I have from different sources been told, that I still have to do 15 hours in Sweden, because I want to attach the license to a UK CPL.
Can this be right.
Thought that they had to approve a JAA license (which the rating from Sweden will be) from any full JAA state..Regardless of hours in the course... I mean, a JAA license is a JAA license.
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FAA-JAA conversion future
Do you think it possible the JAA will recognize the FAA ATPL as an equivalent license in the future? I'm about to make an investment of my time and money to convert and would like to know your opinions on the possibility that it may only be a paperwork exercise somewhere down the line.
I don't think it likely considering the differences and inequalites. Your opinions please...
I don't think it likely considering the differences and inequalites. Your opinions please...
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Hummm...nope, never , its not in the plan is the answer. For the obvous reasons it would simply flood the european market with FAA pilots, and kill the local training industry in Europe. As you pointed out, FAA and JAA pilots can fly the same Cessna or Boeing the same way, but how they get there is vastly different.
My advice is go for it, there will be no changes in the next 10 yrs at least.
My advice is go for it, there will be no changes in the next 10 yrs at least.
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Before you begin your conversion...
...make sure you know what's involved.
If you are converting a non-JAA ATPL the number of ground and flight tests you need to complete depends on your experience.
High Time Pilots
If you are very experienced you should you should apply to the CAA for a formal assessment using Form SRG 1103. Read Lasors on more about this.
The qualifying criteria are
more than 3000 hours total time on aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
more than 1500 hours pilot in command on aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
type rated on an aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
more than 500 hours total time on the aircraft above
able to complete a flight test on the same aircraft
When you have completed the assessment form you need to send it or take it to the CAA with your original licences and log books. The CAA will tell you that you need to pass two written exams, Human Performance and Aviation Law, and pass a flight test on the aircraft you are rated on. The flight test is referred to as a skills test, it is part handling check and part IR renewal check.
Experienced In Two Pilot Operations
If you don't meet the criteria above but have
more than 1500 hours on two-pilot aircraft,
are type rated already and
have more than 500 hours on type
you need to pass all 14 ground exams but don't need to attend a formal groundschool course. You will need to pass a skills test on the aircraft you are rated on.
If you are converting a non-JAA ATPL the number of ground and flight tests you need to complete depends on your experience.
High Time Pilots
If you are very experienced you should you should apply to the CAA for a formal assessment using Form SRG 1103. Read Lasors on more about this.
The qualifying criteria are
more than 3000 hours total time on aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
more than 1500 hours pilot in command on aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
type rated on an aircraft of more than 30,000kg AUW
more than 500 hours total time on the aircraft above
able to complete a flight test on the same aircraft
When you have completed the assessment form you need to send it or take it to the CAA with your original licences and log books. The CAA will tell you that you need to pass two written exams, Human Performance and Aviation Law, and pass a flight test on the aircraft you are rated on. The flight test is referred to as a skills test, it is part handling check and part IR renewal check.
Experienced In Two Pilot Operations
If you don't meet the criteria above but have
more than 1500 hours on two-pilot aircraft,
are type rated already and
have more than 500 hours on type
you need to pass all 14 ground exams but don't need to attend a formal groundschool course. You will need to pass a skills test on the aircraft you are rated on.
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FAA to JAA Conversion
What is the procedure to convert my FAA CPL ME SE IR to a JAA CPL with frozen ATPL?
Can I take the theory exams without signing to a course (by self study without an online course)?
What is the cheapest route to take?
Thank you
Can I take the theory exams without signing to a course (by self study without an online course)?
What is the cheapest route to take?
Thank you
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Regrettably not.
There is a mandatory residential phase to the ATPL ground school that has to be attended at, and signed off by, an approved schoool before you can take the ATPL exams.
But you do not have to buy the books, etc. from one of the approved schools, you merely have to attend their residential phase. Your pre-residential phase study material would be down to you.
The best thing to do would be to contact a number of them directly and ask them how much they would charge you for this.
HTH
There is a mandatory residential phase to the ATPL ground school that has to be attended at, and signed off by, an approved schoool before you can take the ATPL exams.
But you do not have to buy the books, etc. from one of the approved schools, you merely have to attend their residential phase. Your pre-residential phase study material would be down to you.
The best thing to do would be to contact a number of them directly and ask them how much they would charge you for this.
HTH
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Originally Posted by amirfl
What is the procedure to convert my FAA CPL ME SE IR to a JAA CPL with frozen ATPL?
Can I take the theory exams without signing to a course (by self study without an online course)?
What is the cheapest route to take?
Thank you
Can I take the theory exams without signing to a course (by self study without an online course)?
What is the cheapest route to take?
Thank you
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Thank you 2close and George737
Thank you for the info. I curently have 1450 hours of total time (although I'm far from the other requiremnts for a full ATPL such as the cross country time).
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Henriksch,
I think you may be referring to the minimum flight training requirements for conversion of an ICAO IR to a JAA IR.
There are no minimums for conversion of an ICAO CPL, only sufficient training to satisfy the head of training at your chosen training establishment that you are ready to take the 170A "mock flight test". Theoretically, you could turn up on day 1, have check out and satisfy the CFI that you could take the 170A the following day, complete the 170A successfully on day 2 then take your CPL flight test as soon as an examiner becomes available.
As for ground school I'm pretty sure what I stated above is correct but I may of course be mistaken and will check with the powers that be today, if I get a chance.
The other course of action would be to read LASORS. This is the definitive guide for training requirements and outlines the minimum training requirements for conversion of an ICAO ATPL. The link below will take you to the freebie on-line version.
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...detail&id=1591
HTH
2close
I think you may be referring to the minimum flight training requirements for conversion of an ICAO IR to a JAA IR.
There are no minimums for conversion of an ICAO CPL, only sufficient training to satisfy the head of training at your chosen training establishment that you are ready to take the 170A "mock flight test". Theoretically, you could turn up on day 1, have check out and satisfy the CFI that you could take the 170A the following day, complete the 170A successfully on day 2 then take your CPL flight test as soon as an examiner becomes available.
As for ground school I'm pretty sure what I stated above is correct but I may of course be mistaken and will check with the powers that be today, if I get a chance.
The other course of action would be to read LASORS. This is the definitive guide for training requirements and outlines the minimum training requirements for conversion of an ICAO ATPL. The link below will take you to the freebie on-line version.
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...detail&id=1591
HTH
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