Maths and Physics knowledge req'd for ATPL and airline flying?
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Something like a Casio Fx-82MS should do you. ASDA or Tesco should do them cheaper than somewhere than WH Smith and you should get change from a tenner. Has all the trig functions and also degrees, minutes and seconds which was invaluable for getting me through GNAV and correcting silly adding errors. Also has a nice hard plastic case.
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Yes, about GCSE standard is true to say! The very fact that you are learning to do something which you really want to do as a profession will make the learning a whole lot easier trust me.
Good luck if you choose to pursue an aviation career
Good luck if you choose to pursue an aviation career
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how can i prepare myself for the math? is there anypoint in learning the stuff from http://williams.best.vwh.net/avform.html#LL in advane?
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As an aside, you can forget anything you ever learned about real world hydraulics and so on. What you have to learn to pass the exams is the answer that the JAA examiner expects you to give to a given problem, often significantly different to what actually happens in the real world.
I have a degree in Aero Eng and had to unlearn a load of stuff and replace it with the JAR version of the same stuff. I guess there's a limit to what they can expect you to understand but it can get a bit confusing for those of us with a reasonable understanding of real world physics, engineering and so on.
As for the maths, I think what's said above pretty much covers it. If you can count to twelve without having to take your shoes and socks off
and are fairly proficient with a calculator then you should have absolutely no problems!
I have a degree in Aero Eng and had to unlearn a load of stuff and replace it with the JAR version of the same stuff. I guess there's a limit to what they can expect you to understand but it can get a bit confusing for those of us with a reasonable understanding of real world physics, engineering and so on.
As for the maths, I think what's said above pretty much covers it. If you can count to twelve without having to take your shoes and socks off
and are fairly proficient with a calculator then you should have absolutely no problems!
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ive just enrolled on a college course to re-take my maths gcse. i got a "d" and need a "c" to begin my career. my girlfriend is a teacher and she said that to pass a gcse maths exam now you need 17%, when i took the exam 7 years ago you needed 45% to pass. in a way i hope shes right about this but it doesnt really say much if i pass with say 30% this time round as aposed to my higher mark last time yet still get a better grade. yet another money making scam!
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I did GCSEs almost 15 years ago (heck!) and the grade scheme was something like A-G with the lowest grade threshold being about the low-teens mark, approx 12%. All you had to do is turn up and answer the easy questions for "pass", yet one or two still failed to do that. More important Peelay is where the threshold for a "C" grade currently stands. It used to be about 65% but may have come down in the following years. Anyway good luck. Well done on going back to college and putting the hard work in, too many try to cut corners these days. 
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Hello guys ,
Concerning the calculators well in France the maximum you can have is the Texas Instrument TI-30XIIB . They even rent you one for the exam . But you know ATPL doesn't require lot a complicated Maths . Just try to be smooth and quick on mental calculation and should be ok .
Regards JB
Concerning the calculators well in France the maximum you can have is the Texas Instrument TI-30XIIB . They even rent you one for the exam . But you know ATPL doesn't require lot a complicated Maths . Just try to be smooth and quick on mental calculation and should be ok .
Regards JB
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Free book for ATPL Maths / Physics.
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I remember some years ago the London Guildhall University, who ran/run ATPL ground school published a free book with the various types of maths & physics type questions found in the ATPL syllabus. It had excellent worked examples of the questions (with answers as well). I think this was designed as pre-course reading or a “taster” for those people thinking about starting a course.
I think I may still have a copy tucked away somewhere. Subject to me contacting the London Guildhall University and gaining approval, I could scan it in and email it to you. (If I can find it)!!
Of course you could always phone them up and ask for a copy.
PM me.
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I remember some years ago the London Guildhall University, who ran/run ATPL ground school published a free book with the various types of maths & physics type questions found in the ATPL syllabus. It had excellent worked examples of the questions (with answers as well). I think this was designed as pre-course reading or a “taster” for those people thinking about starting a course.
I think I may still have a copy tucked away somewhere. Subject to me contacting the London Guildhall University and gaining approval, I could scan it in and email it to you. (If I can find it)!!
Of course you could always phone them up and ask for a copy.
PM me.
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Im actually looking forward to doing it because my maths has always let me down and now i have a reason to put the work in plus im hoping it will put me in good stead for any exams i have to endure if i get through to selection.
cheers for the words of encouragment.
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A-Level Maths
hey, I did not know where to post this so move if need be.
Tomorrow i am sitting my first AS Level maths exam and up to now i have really struggled, I have nearly started crying in frustration because i could not do a practice exam
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I am thinking about dropping the subject and just carry on with ICT double and general studies and still gain 3 A-Levels. Is it a good idea to drop maths or is it needed if i want to become an airline pilot?
Tomorrow i am sitting my first AS Level maths exam and up to now i have really struggled, I have nearly started crying in frustration because i could not do a practice exam
. I am thinking about dropping the subject and just carry on with ICT double and general studies and still gain 3 A-Levels. Is it a good idea to drop maths or is it needed if i want to become an airline pilot?
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Maths is only needed at A-Level if you want to apply to any of the quasi-sponsorships out there.. e.g the excel/Thomas cook ones run at OAT. It is not officially needed to be an airline pilot. It's best to do A level subjects you enjoy and are reasonably good at. An 'E' grade maths a-level is (fairly obviously) not as good as a 'B' grade ICT a-level for example.
Good luck in your exam
G
Good luck in your exam
G
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Tomorrow i am sitting my first AS Level maths exam and up to now i have really struggled, I have nearly started crying in frustration because i could not do a practice exam .
I am thinking about dropping the subject and just carry on with ICT double and general studies and still gain 3 A-Levels. Is it a good idea to drop maths or is it needed if i want to become an airline pilot?
. I am thinking about dropping the subject and just carry on with ICT double and general studies and still gain 3 A-Levels. Is it a good idea to drop maths or is it needed if i want to become an airline pilot?
A few tips, I failed my january AS exam last year but resat it in the summer and overall managed to get an A. So go back over C1 whilst doing C2 as they are fairly similar and make sure you don't get behind with stats as its the easiest to boost up your overall mark. However what you must ask yourself is, are you prepared to put in that much work because if your not then forget it as it will just waste your time. Maths is a strong A-level to have if you can manage it and the feeling of achievement is great.
As for your other subjects unfortunately general studies isnt accepted as an A-level by any/most universities and you will be extremely limited as to what you can do with an A-level in ICT.
Hope this helps,
Feel free to PM me.
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Maths
If you have any questions in regard to maths theory/understanding feel free to PM me. I'm no genius, but I did A level.
The things about maths is, the techers expect that once you understand an idea, you can apply it to any situation, when in reality, it's all about practice and trying as many different examples before your test.
I would say if you don't understand something, ask over and over again, after school, at lunch, online, friends. You don't have enough time to be 'embarassed' or have a misplaced sense of pride. (don't take offence, this was me 2 years ago!)
Good luck, and remember Maths is one of the most highly regarded Alevels for a reason.
Dave
The things about maths is, the techers expect that once you understand an idea, you can apply it to any situation, when in reality, it's all about practice and trying as many different examples before your test.
I would say if you don't understand something, ask over and over again, after school, at lunch, online, friends. You don't have enough time to be 'embarassed' or have a misplaced sense of pride. (don't take offence, this was me 2 years ago!)
Good luck, and remember Maths is one of the most highly regarded Alevels for a reason.
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And on another topic
I sent off my application to UCAS last night (just in time!).
After trawling Uni's to find Aerospace Eng courses, while maybe not what you want to do, you find that they do not accept general studies for the following reasons;
They are a top uni, highly reputable (Manc, Liver, Sheff etc).
The course is science/maths based (Medicine, Engineering, pure Sciences etc)
The course is not a 'soft subject' (Media Studies, Kite Flying Studies etc).
These are my observations after 2 years of Uni applications, so obviously are not the black and white.
With Maths and IT you stand in good stead.
Cheers
Dave
After trawling Uni's to find Aerospace Eng courses, while maybe not what you want to do, you find that they do not accept general studies for the following reasons;
They are a top uni, highly reputable (Manc, Liver, Sheff etc).
The course is science/maths based (Medicine, Engineering, pure Sciences etc)
The course is not a 'soft subject' (Media Studies, Kite Flying Studies etc).
These are my observations after 2 years of Uni applications, so obviously are not the black and white.
With Maths and IT you stand in good stead.
Cheers
Dave
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Have a messed it up?
Well im having a bad day, I got my results for my A-Level January exams today and I got two A's in ICT but a U in maths. My teacher wasnt very happy about the maths and has kicked me off the course, does anyone have any idea if i still stand a chance in making it to being a pilot without A-Level Maths? I'm panacking now and feel like a failure 
I have already read around and see that most places don't require maths but will employers / RAF choose someone with maths over me?
Sorry for the depressing post but im lost at the moment, don't know what I should do but I wont let go of my dream...
I have already read around and see that most places don't require maths but will employers / RAF choose someone with maths over me?
Sorry for the depressing post but im lost at the moment, don't know what I should do but I wont let go of my dream...
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dont give up, i cant advise if you will need maths but if you do there are lots of other options than completing the course at college
i totally stuffed up all my exams at college and was kicked out so i did them all via distance learning and got much better grades than i ever would have done.
also have you spoken to your tutor and explained how important this is to you, one slip up isnt the end of the world you can always re-sit in june
i totally stuffed up all my exams at college and was kicked out so i did them all via distance learning and got much better grades than i ever would have done.
also have you spoken to your tutor and explained how important this is to you, one slip up isnt the end of the world you can always re-sit in june