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24Carrot 20th Sep 2012 09:03


the quiet return of so much of his previous effort is a good step forward.
I would definitely concur with that.

Normally lots of posts survive bannings, SNS3Guppy is one example. What happened to GTE's seemed unusually drastic, and a loss to PPrune.

S-Works 20th Sep 2012 09:51


Cue for a song....
Freeeeeeeeeee, Ghengis the Engineeeeeeeer........

patowalker 20th Sep 2012 10:39

Most posts are about the contribution Genghis has made to Pprune, but that is only a shadow of his contribution to aviation. One group did not make it easy for him, but is today held in respect by the CAA, largely due his efforts. :ok:

TomNH 20th Sep 2012 15:11

Off the strict definition of the topic but my 2p. I'm a long time lurker, student pilot and occasional poster. The threads I value are most often those that GtE, PilotDAR, BPF, Pace, PeterH, Mad Jock, BoseX and the like contribute to. These are, IMHO, what makes this worth bothering with.

I don't know GtE (or any of the others) personally, though I hope to meet them in the future, but cannot believe that he would do anything to merit such a response, except inadvertently. The sooner this gets sorted out the better, or I too am off to the dark side - if nothing else because that's where the interesting discussion will be.

clareprop 20th Sep 2012 15:15

Latest from GtE at the other place:



I'm aware that I could have joined Flyer some time ago; to be honest I didn't because I'd got comfortable on PPrune before the Flyer Forum appeared, and because it has historically been excellent for the sort of deep technical discussions that I really enjoy. In particular the PPrune flight test forum was my idea, and I'm quite proud of the civilised technical discussions we've had there over the years.


In the meantime, I'm glad to say that my historical postings on PPrune have been restored, and with them everybody else's posts in threads I'd originated.

I'm still banned from the site as Genghis (I can of-course just logout and read the public pages anyhow, but can't post), and the disagreement with another moderator is not yet resolved. However, at-least this now can be reduced to a disagreement amongst PPrune management - which is how it should have been in the first place to be honest - without normal board members being affected by a disagreement that has nothing to do with them.

So I shall certainly be around here for the foreseeable, whatever happens over the road. Given the very kind welcome I've received, how could I not?

But I'll make no secret of hoping to get back to "business as normal" at PPrune.

JW411 20th Sep 2012 16:47

I really am sorry but that was actually a very straightforward question.

Are you trying to tell me that mentioning that name is never to happen again?

1984.

clareprop 20th Sep 2012 17:05

:uhoh: It was meant to be a pm...
Hopefully no one else noticed.. :O

Final 3 Greens 20th Sep 2012 19:14


Honest question;

Who the hell is Xxx Xxxxx?
I started this thread to highlight my disgust at someone's real name being posted.

I'd appreciate it if you would edit your post to remove the name you state, otherwise this thread commits the very offence it is designed to protest against.

Thank you.

Fuji Abound 20th Sep 2012 19:24

Final 3 Greens - names have always been removed in the past when a mod has been asked to do so - so doubtless if asked they would be (and should be) removed on this occasion.

eharding 20th Sep 2012 20:45


Originally Posted by Final 3 Greens (Post 7424664)
I started this thread to highlight my disgust at someone's real name being posted.

I'd appreciate it if you would edit your post to remove the name you state, otherwise this thread commits the very offence it is designed to protest against.

Thank you.

This is all getting rather surreal.

If someone is quite clearly happy to identify himself in PPrune forum postings, is there really a need for vigilante action on one particular thread?

Here, for example, but a simple forum search will give you pages and pages of results.

Clearly, if someone wishes to remain anonymous, that is a different matter (although forum anonymity causes more problems that it solves, IMHO - but that's a different matter).

Personally, I think all aggrieved parties in the current matter of dispute should settle the matter in the good old fashioned way - pistols or rapiers at dawn; none of this modern 'seeking a mutually agreeable consensus' codswallop. :}

peterh337 20th Sep 2012 20:50


names have always been removed in the past when a mod has been asked to do so - so doubtless if asked they would be (and should be) removed on this occasion.
Not true, unfortunately.

Very recently bose-x used my full name in the bizjet (?) forum and the mods refused to remove it when I asked them to. They told me to contact bose-x.

Bose-x removed it only after I posted a brief "history" of his exploits, with his full name, and after I said I will remove my post if he removes my name.

Some of the moderation on PP seems pretty strange. Sometimes aggressive, other times they couldn't care less who gets pissed off.

S-Works 20th Sep 2012 20:54

You really need to get a better grip of reality Peter, as that was not how it went. Funny how things always make you the victim.

I suggest you leave it alone now before we fall out again......

eharding 20th Sep 2012 20:55


Originally Posted by peterh337 (Post 7424784)
Very recently bose-x used my full name in the bizjet (?) forum and the mods refused to remove it when I asked them to. They told me to contact bose-x.

Bose-x removed it only after I posted a brief "history" of his exploits, with his full name, and after I said I will remove my post if he removes my name.

Maybe pistols at dawn wouldn't be such a good idea in the case of you vs. Bose-X - I wouldn't trust either of you with a firearm not to hit anything and everything within a 100 metre radius that wasn't your opponent, including your own nads.

Pace 21st Sep 2012 00:59

Frankly this is ridiculous :ugh: how much thinking about things does it take to give G a chance??? five minutes not five days !!!

Ok do not take him back as a moderator but this attitude is sickening :ugh: At least give us a formal decision from pprune on the matter?

Pace

rustle 21st Sep 2012 05:07


Originally Posted by eharding (Post 7424792)
Maybe pistols at dawn wouldn't be such a good idea in the case of you vs. Bose-X - I wouldn't trust either of you with a firearm not to hit anything and everything within a 100 metre radius that wasn't your opponent, including your own nads.

:D

Very good.

:}

Fuji Abound 21st Sep 2012 06:16

I think the pistols had better fire blanks so no one gets hurt, otherwise it sounds like it could be messy.

jxk 21st Sep 2012 07:46

Now children behave!

Jan Olieslagers 21st Sep 2012 10:23


At least give us a formal decision from PPRuNe on the matter?
Second that - but AFAIU this might well have to come from across the pond.

Final 3 Greens 21st Sep 2012 12:06

Well it is ridiculous the way it is dragging on without a statement.

Somehow, I donŽt think IŽll be adding to more many posts to the 4,500 over the last 12 years, unless something develops reasonably quickly.

strake 21st Sep 2012 12:20

The last one of these issues, Guppy I believe, went on for hundreds of posts without any response, so I wouldn't hold your breath.


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